True or False:

[67 StingrayJ]

1.) True or False:
Installing a Pedal Commander (or any other brand throttle response controller) is the same as changing how you press on the accelerator.

2.) True or False:
Pedal Commander's (or any other brand throttle response controller) Maximum throttle input is no different than what you can achieve without a pedal commander.

3.) True or False:
Simply installing a Pedal Commander (or any other brand throttle response controller) cannot improve acceleration beyond what you can already achieve.

4.) True or False:
One can replicate the effects of a Pedal Commander (or any other brand throttle response controller) by changing how you press the accelerator.

5.) True or False:
People who install a Pedal Commander (or any other brand throttle response controller) could have achieved the same effects by simply changing the way they used their accelerator.

6.) True or False:
The most aggressive Pedal Commander setting (or any other brand throttle response controller) is no better than slamming your foot on the accelerator.

7.) True or False:
Purchasing a Pedal Commander (or any other brand throttle response controller) is a quick way to needlessly spend your money.

 

[2012RAM1500RT]

True for me, my throttle controller makes my truck "feel" quicker because I have no doubt the throttle opens quicker than it did. Wouldn't go back to how it felt before even if it was "proven" it's in my head!

 

[G-Ride990]

1.) True or False:
Installing a Pedal Commander (or any other brand throttle response controller) is the same as changing how you press on the accelerator.

FALSE

2.) True or False:
Pedal Commander's (or any other brand throttle response controller) Maximum throttle input is no different than what you can achieve without a pedal commander.

TRUE

3.) True or False:
Simply installing a Pedal Commander (or any other brand throttle response controller) cannot improve acceleration beyond what you can already achieve.

TRUE

4.) True or False:
One can replicate the effects of a Pedal Commander (or any other brand throttle response controller) by changing how you press the accelerator.

EHH, it really changes how the truck feels to drive.

5.) True or False:
People who install a Pedal Commander (or any other brand throttle response controller) could have achieved the same effects by simply changing the way they used their accelerator.

Up for debate

6.) True or False:
The most aggressive Pedal Commander setting (or any other brand throttle response controller) is no better than slamming your foot on the accelerator.

FALSE - truck is not driveable on highest setting. Instant tire spin.

7.) True or False:
Purchasing a Pedal Commander (or any other brand throttle response controller) is a quick way to needlessly spend your money.

FALSE

 

[co-pilot]

I really can't explain.....
Wish you could drive my truck then yours......not saying my truck is faster.....just the power response at any speed is worth my money....I really don't like driving without it!

 

[Gr8bawana]

I've seen videos of before and after installation of a pedal commander of the actual throttle. The stock throttle controller will open at the same speed no matter how fast the pedal was depressed. After the throttle commander was installed the actuation was instantaneous.

 

[G-Ride990]

I really can't explain.....
Wish you could drive my truck then yours......not saying my truck is faster.....just the power response at any speed is worth my money....I really don't like driving without it!

Same, mine is never coming out.

 

[Nick@GotExhaust]

1.) True or False:
Installing a Pedal Commander (or any other brand throttle response controller) is the same as changing how you press on the accelerator.

FALSE

2.) True or False:
Pedal Commander's (or any other brand throttle response controller) Maximum throttle input is no different than what you can achieve without a pedal commander.

TRUE - 100% Throttle input will still be 100% throttle input

3.) True or False:
Simply installing a Pedal Commander (or any other brand throttle response controller) cannot improve acceleration beyond what you can already achieve.

FALSE. It will open the throttle body at a faster rate. I would bet LOW rpm hp/tq is SLIGHTLY improved. Peak power numbers remain the same.

4.) True or False:
One can replicate the effects of a Pedal Commander (or any other brand throttle response controller) by changing how you press the accelerator.

FALSE

5.) True or False:
People who install a Pedal Commander (or any other brand throttle response controller) could have achieved the same effects by simply changing the way they used their accelerator.

FALSE

6.) True or False:
The most aggressive Pedal Commander setting (or any other brand throttle response controller) is no better than slamming your foot on the accelerator.

FALSE

7.) True or False:
Purchasing a Pedal Commander (or any other brand throttle response controller) is a quick way to needlessly spend your money.

FALSE

We offer Pedal Commander. Let me know if you would like a quote on it.

 

[Travelin Ram]

Preach!

But watch out for the stones and pitchforks.

 

[rule18]

Agree with @G-Ride990 @co-pilot and @Nick@GotExhaust . 100% accurate. It will NOT make your truck faster, it's NOT a tune and it DOESN'T add HP. It DOES eat up the digital lag between stepping on the accelerator and moving. There's no amount of foot stompin' that will do that. I have a PC in every vehicle I own.

 

[BadHemi2014]

I find it odd that some people spend so much time trying to discredit PC/similar throttle input boosters. Anyone who's used one knows how much more responsive the truck is. It doesn't claim to add hp or power in any way and I've never seen anyone claim that it does. It does one thing only, eliminate that lag, that's all it does and it does it very well.
If you (generic 'you') feel it's a waste of money, don't use one.
As for me, you bet I'll keep mine. If I turn it off for any reason I sure remember why I have it.

 

[67 StingrayJ]

all good responses guys. Fact finding at its finest.

 

[Bigs]

1.) True or False:
Installing a Pedal Commander (or any other brand throttle response controller) is the same as changing how you press on the accelerator.

FALSE

2.) True or False:
Pedal Commander's (or any other brand throttle response controller) Maximum throttle input is no different than what you can achieve without a pedal commander.

TRUE - 100% Throttle input will still be 100% throttle input

3.) True or False:
Simply installing a Pedal Commander (or any other brand throttle response controller) cannot improve acceleration beyond what you can already achieve.

FALSE. It will open the throttle body at a faster rate. I would bet LOW rpm hp/tq is SLIGHTLY improved. Peak power numbers remain the same.

4.) True or False:
One can replicate the effects of a Pedal Commander (or any other brand throttle response controller) by changing how you press the accelerator.

FALSE

5.) True or False:
People who install a Pedal Commander (or any other brand throttle response controller) could have achieved the same effects by simply changing the way they used their accelerator.

FALSE

6.) True or False:
The most aggressive Pedal Commander setting (or any other brand throttle response controller) is no better than slamming your foot on the accelerator.

FALSE

7.) True or False:
Purchasing a Pedal Commander (or any other brand throttle response controller) is a quick way to needlessly spend your money.

FALSE

We offer Pedal Commander. Let me know if you would like a quote on it.

I couldn't have said it better!

If it was snake oil, they wouldn't sell any. Mine is there to stay as well. I'm at Sport 0 at the moment. I can't see running it in Sport + +4, I'd have no rear tires left!
Even my wife noticed (as a passenger) a huge difference, even when I was in the City settings at the beginning.

 

[Docwagon1776]

I don't have a dog in the fight, but it seems like much of this could be resolved by a simple comparison of 0-60 times, 5-60 times, 50-100 times, and/or 1/4 mile times. Feels are subjective and easy to argue. Apples to apples numbers comparison, not so much. I never see any real numbers in any of these discussions from either side.

 

[Daw14]

Doc is correct , show the numbers .

 

[Rlaf75]

Serious question here. How do these or how will these pedal commanders affect the warranty on a new truck?

My 11 Bighorn did not have one installed but it felt much more responsive than my new 21 BTS. I get what they do and I like the idea behind it but I dont want to risk the warranty on a new truck

 

[Nick@GotExhaust]

I will see if I can find it. A Raptor owner did a #'s comparison and did show gains with a PC. That being said there is no perfect test. It can still be argued that this 3rd party had a horse in the race since he spent the money on the product. Lets face it though, the majority is not racing their truck. The feel of the improvement is better than the #'s. especially since this isn't made for WOT acceleration it is made for 1%-99% acceleration. So WOT #'s dont really show the advantages of this product.

 

[Nick@GotExhaust]

I don't have a dog in the fight, but it seems like much of this could be resolved by a simple comparison of 0-60 times, 5-60 times, 50-100 times, and/or 1/4 mile times. Feels are subjective and easy to argue. Apples to apples numbers comparison, not so much. I never see any real numbers in any of these discussions from either side.

Doc is correct , show the numbers .

As mentioned WOT pulls isnt what the PC is really made for but these results are by a customer on another forum. Customer has a 2nd gen Raptor. PC post means with PC installed

Today I tested the PC on and off.

Same road, i held break till predetermined RPM then gas pedal and released with PC off and sport +4, i was only person in vehicle nothing in bed. Sport + 4 on PC and sport mode in both.

Initial 0-60 was 6.2 sec.
PC post 0-60 was 5.4 sec

Did it two more times with similar results.

Run 2:

Initial 0-60 was 6.3 sec.
PC post 0-60 was 5.6 sec

Run 3:

Initial 0-60 was 6.1 sec.
PC post 0-60 was 5.3 sec

Serious question here. How do these or how will these pedal commanders affect the warranty on a new truck?

My 11 Bighorn did not have one installed but it felt much more responsive than my new 21 BTS. I get what they do and I like the idea behind it but I dont want to risk the warranty on a new truck

they are not traceable. I brought mine in with it installed but on a low setting and they never mentioned it. If it is a big concern simply remove it and they wouldnt know it was ever installed

 

[Docwagon1776]

So WOT #'s dont really show the advantages of this product.

Which would lend credence to the "push the pedal harder" argument. If it's same-same at WOT, then the "opening the throttle faster" isn't doing anything measurable. If there are slight gains, then the "opening the throttle faster" is actually resulting in slightly better acceleration. Etc. The numbers will show if it's just feels or if it's for reals...

 

[rule18]

Which would lend credence to the "push the pedal harder" argument. If it's same-same at WOT, then the "opening the throttle faster" isn't doing anything measurable. If there are slight gains, then the "opening the throttle faster" is actually resulting in slightly better acceleration. Etc. The numbers will show if it's just feels or if it's for reals...

Stepping down harder doesn't solve the digital lag issue. No matter how fast your foot presses, there's still the same lag. It's a computer thing, not a physical thing.

 

[Docwagon1776]

Stepping down harder doesn't solve the digital lag issue. No matter how fast your foot presses, there's still the same lag. It's a computer thing, not a physical thing.

I understand the argument. I understand how a PC works. My question was pretty simply, if opening the throttle faster matters the numbers will show it and the "just press the pedal harder" camp is wrong. If the numbers are the same, the "but it opens the throttle faster" crowd is wrong. Feels don't matter as much as real data, although obviously some folks will remain fact resistant if it doesn't support their notions.