2014 Cummins 6.7 after market Turbo recommendations?

[Healy]

Turbo is failing on my 14' 2500. Since I have to spend the $ regardless looking at upgrading to get more power. New to the diesel truck world and use the truck to haul horses so more power is never a bad thing. Thanks for any suggestions.

 

[mtnrider]

Turbo failing or actuator failing? Rare for the turbo to fail.
Really not worth going to a "bigger" turbo unless you can get the tuning/fueling to compliment it.
Also what are you goals? You could end up with something that has higher peak HP but is going to be a dog down low.

Lots to consider

 

[BossHogg]

Turbo is failing on my 14' 2500. Since I have to spend the $ regardless looking at upgrading to get more power. New to the diesel truck world and use the truck to haul horses so more power is never a bad thing. Thanks for any suggestions.

You don't need more power, making more power puts additional stress on the driveline which was designed for the power you now have. What do you want, more power or reliability?

 

[Bike_Pilot]

I would do a DDP Hooligan or Fleece Cheetah with a city diesel actuator. Might as well upgrade. Both should give a little more power as well as lower drive pressure and lower egts.

 

[Travelin Ram]

Making a modest amount of power gain doesn’t require turbo upgrades. Making big power requires many modifications over and above that one part.

And how is any of that going to fly in the great state of california?

 

[18CrewDually]

If I knew I needed a turbo for the money Fleece Cheetah all the way.

 

[Dennis Shellito]

I went with the Fleece Cheetah in my truck, at the recommendation of my diesel tech, and haven't regretted it. I don't know if it added much if any power but it sure enhanced the exhaust brake compared with the OEM turbo. On a stock 6.7 Cummins you may find increased performance, but mine had a lot junk iron fall off early on.

 

[David7541]

Turbo failing or actuator failing? Rare for the turbo to fail.
Really not worth going to a "bigger" turbo unless you can get the tuning/fueling to compliment it.
Also what are you goals? You could end up with something that has higher peak HP but is going to be a dog down low.

Lots to consider

This is my first post and probably my last considering the amount of 'Google Mechanics' I am seeing herein and the likelihood of being banned I put at 99.999% LOL.
Your post irritated me so badly that I registered just so I could reply to it.

You said "Turbo failing or actuator failing? Rare for a turbo to fail."

Rare you say?
WRONG, INCORRECT, FALSE, NOT TRUE Pick one.
If you are running a stock Ram Cummins Turbo diesel, Turbo's (especially Gen. 3+) are infamous for failing at 45,000 miles (+/- a few thousand miles).
You are CLEARLY responding to $hit you are CLEARLY ignorant of. Do you even have experience as a mechanic, technician or have even done your due diligence and researched for the OP before spewing that bs out of your mouth?

Bottom line, it is NOT rare whatsoever. The turbo WILL fail eventually without making aggressive changes to the system as a whole IOT prevent that. This is why I deleted by '14 at the 32k mile mark, to save my turbo. Had I let it keep going like that with all of that DEF particulate inside of the turbo, it would eventually warped it / gummed it up, and the turbo would have had a catastrophic failure.

People are using stock drivelines dragging their tucks at over 800hp. Can you add some upgrades when electing for more power? Yes, it doesn't start at the driveline. You DO NOT know what you are talking about at all. There are much more important upgrades to consider when going above 600 ponies and it DOES NOT start with the driveline ffs. Same goes for you

 

[G-Ride990]

Hope that post made you feel better.

Edited for forum rules.

 

[18CrewDually]

This is my first post and probably my last considering the amount of 'Google Mechanics' I am seeing herein and the likelihood of being banned I put at 99.999% LOL.
Your post irritated me so badly that I registered just so I could reply to it.

You said "Turbo failing or actuator failing? Rare for a turbo to fail."

Rare you say?
WRONG, INCORRECT, FALSE, NOT TRUE Pick one.
If you are running a stock Ram Cummins Turbo diesel, Turbo's (especially Gen. 3+) are infamous for failing at 45,000 miles (+/- a few thousand miles).
You are CLEARLY responding to $hit you are CLEARLY ignorant of. Do you even have experience as a mechanic, technician or have even done your due diligence and researched for the OP before spewing that bs out of your mouth?

Bottom line, it is NOT rare whatsoever. The turbo WILL fail eventually without making aggressive changes to the system as a whole IOT prevent that. This is why I deleted by '14 at the 32k mile mark, to save my turbo. Had I let it keep going like that with all of that DEF particulate inside of the turbo, it would eventually warped it / gummed it up, and the turbo would have had a catastrophic failure.

People are using stock drivelines dragging their tucks at over 800hp. Can you add some upgrades when electing for more power? Yes, it doesn't start at the driveline. You DO NOT know what you are talking about at all. There are much more important upgrades to consider when going above 600 ponies and it DOES NOT start with the driveline ffs. Same goes for you

You lost all credibility with the line
"Had I let it keep going like that with all of that DEF particulate inside of the turbo, it would eventually warped it / gummed it up, and the turbo would have had a catastrophic failure."

Clearly you have no idea how any of it works. Before you complain about others, educate yourself.
Currently have two 4th Gens with stock Turbos, 160k & 58k miles. Guess I'm just lucky. Or maybe it's because the truck's are maintained, never beat on, & unmolested stock.
And my last truck when I sold it had 198k miles original turbo.
If you're going through Turbos every 45k miles you're doing something wrong. Probably misdiagnosed.
Well, good luck with your new venture into Forums. Great start so far.

 

[mtnrider]

"Karen" has entered the chat..... Lol

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[Gr8bawana]

This is my first post and probably my last considering the amount of 'Google Mechanics' I am seeing herein and the likelihood of being banned I put at 99.999% LOL.
Your post irritated me so badly that I registered just so I could reply to it.

You said "Turbo failing or actuator failing? Rare for a turbo to fail."

Rare you say?
WRONG, INCORRECT, FALSE, NOT TRUE Pick one.
If you are running a stock Ram Cummins Turbo diesel, Turbo's (especially Gen. 3+) are infamous for failing at 45,000 miles (+/- a few thousand miles).
You are CLEARLY responding to $hit you are CLEARLY ignorant of. Do you even have experience as a mechanic, technician or have even done your due diligence and researched for the OP before spewing that bs out of your mouth?

Bottom line, it is NOT rare whatsoever. The turbo WILL fail eventually without making aggressive changes to the system as a whole IOT prevent that. This is why I deleted by '14 at the 32k mile mark, to save my turbo. Had I let it keep going like that with all of that DEF particulate inside of the turbo, it would eventually warped it / gummed it up, and the turbo would have had a catastrophic failure.

People are using stock drivelines dragging their tucks at over 800hp. Can you add some upgrades when electing for more power? Yes, it doesn't start at the driveline. You DO NOT know what you are talking about at all. There are much more important upgrades to consider when going above 600 ponies and it DOES NOT start with the driveline ffs. Same goes for you

 

[OLEJOE]

Yeah if he’s getting DEF in the turbo, he definitely has worse problems than the turbo going out. You would think that these keyboard commandos would atleast try to educate themselves so they don’t sound like complete idiots.

46 ? LMAOROF

 

[nlambert182]

You can't get DEF in the turbo. DEF is injected AFTER the turbo. Kinda difficult for it to run uphill through the exhaust and back into the turbo.

OP - couple of things from someone who used to work in a diesel truck shop that did Cummins warranty work.

1) The turbos aren't prone to failure any more than any other brand. They're pretty darned reliable.

2) The turbo actuators are the culprit 70-80% of the time. You need to VERIFY which is bad before blasting the parts cannon at it. If the actuator is bad, City Diesel is the only way to go. If it's a turbo, then Fleece.

3) No need to increase the turbo size unless you are also going to retune the truck (and you "might" need to upgrade the fuel system), stud the head, etc.. The engine is designed to run what it came with. Bumping it up more typically leads to finding the next weakest link.

 

[oledirteh]

This is my first post and probably my last considering the amount of 'Google Mechanics' I am seeing herein and the likelihood of being banned I put at 99.999% LOL.
Your post irritated me so badly that I registered just so I could reply to it.

You said "Turbo failing or actuator failing? Rare for a turbo to fail."

Rare you say?
WRONG, INCORRECT, FALSE, NOT TRUE Pick one.
If you are running a stock Ram Cummins Turbo diesel, Turbo's (especially Gen. 3+) are infamous for failing at 45,000 miles (+/- a few thousand miles).
You are CLEARLY responding to $hit you are CLEARLY ignorant of. Do you even have experience as a mechanic, technician or have even done your due diligence and researched for the OP before spewing that bs out of your mouth?

Bottom line, it is NOT rare whatsoever. The turbo WILL fail eventually without making aggressive changes to the system as a whole IOT prevent that. This is why I deleted by '14 at the 32k mile mark, to save my turbo. Had I let it keep going like that with all of that DEF particulate inside of the turbo, it would eventually warped it / gummed it up, and the turbo would have had a catastrophic failure.

People are using stock drivelines dragging their tucks at over 800hp. Can you add some upgrades when electing for more power? Yes, it doesn't start at the driveline. You DO NOT know what you are talking about at all. There are much more important upgrades to consider when going above 600 ponies and it DOES NOT start with the driveline ffs. Same goes for you

you are adorable. It's great to see someone come in hot yet come off wrong in such a way that it's not even worth the face palm it deserves.

 

[ricky_bobby]

Another vote for Fleece Cheetah (if turbo needs replacing) and City Diesel actuator here