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So, maybe this is the wrong forum to post on, but I figured it would have the best info.

I'm trying to decide if I want to buy a 2012 Ram 2500 5.7 Hemi 36k miles vs Toyota Tundra

thoughts on the gas engine and transmission, if they have bad history

I would only be pulling horses a few times a month with either truck.
 

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U are gonna tow and u are torn between a tundra and a ram. Cheese and rice. Hands down the hemi.


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The hemi all day. I have hauled some heavy loads in the bed. I just can't take the tundra seriously.
 
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It's only a three horse trailer, 6ooo# max, so the towing isn't a factor, I'm worried about longevity btw the two
 

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I can't take the tundra serious either.


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Tundra is very hard on gas,had a couple of friends who had them and got rid of them because of that,You don't need the hemi to tow,3.6 ram would do either.I had a 4.7 ram before,2002 and the engine was junk,don't know about the newer one though.
 

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What's wrong with the Tundra for towing 6k?

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Wrong forum to post in But I'll try to be little more serious. A 2500 ram vs tundra. Your trying to compair a heavy duty to a light duty truck. To me if you stack up them up side by side the tundra will accle in the ride quality department and the acceleration department. Short of that 2500 hands down. Even though the tundra will acclerate little faster the ram will handle a heavier load alot better. With the lack of ride quality your going to gain alot of stability. As far as dependability goes both are going to run for a long time of taken care of. The 2500 will have a bigger axle beefier trans basically beefier everything. From my understanding both will probably get about the same fuel mileage as the tundra has a 4.30 axle on flat highway the tundra may get a little better. I suggest you test drive both as they will both drive alot different. Both will do what you want but take into consideration price, options, and mainly the fact the ram will out tow the tundra.
 

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The RAM will be much happier towing. 1500's can tow it, but the heavy duty rules in that department.
 
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Wrong forum to post in But I'll try to be little more serious. A 2500 ram vs tundra. Your trying to compair a heavy duty to a light duty truck. To me if you stack up them up side by side the tundra will accle in the ride quality department and the acceleration department. Short of that 2500 hands down. Even though the tundra will acclerate little faster the ram will handle a heavier load alot better. With the lack of ride quality your going to gain alot of stability. As far as dependability goes both are going to run for a long time of taken care of. The 2500 will have a bigger axle beefier trans basically beefier everything. From my understanding both will probably get about the same fuel mileage as the tundra has a 4.30 axle on flat highway the tundra may get a little better. I suggest you test drive both as they will both drive alot different. Both will do what you want but take into consideration price, options, and mainly the fact the ram will out tow the tundra.

thanks for the honest opinion and info. and ya if im looking at dependability side by side, its a wash, if I take care of the truck, it will take care of me
 

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thanks for the honest opinion and info. and ya if im looking at dependability side by side, its a wash, if I take care of the truck, it will take care of me

THANK YOU! Many constantly rave about "I bought a Toyota Tundra because its more reliable". What they don't realize is that the car market is very different than the truck market, and reliability wise, the latest generation of trucks from most, if not all, brands have all been very reliable. Like you said, its a wash.
 

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I guess I'm the one that should answer this question given I've been driving the Tundra for the last 9 years. Prior to owning the Tundra I owned a Ram 2500 Hemi, Ford F-150, and a Chevy 1500. The Tundra is hands down the better truck; no doubt about it. Lots of guys will feed you lots of BS trying to get you to buy their favorite truck. I don't have brand loyalty and will tell like it is. I currently own;a 2016 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road, a 2016 Mercedes, a 2014 Mustang GT and yes a modified 2014 Ram Cummins powered 3500 4X4.

The Tundra has 381HP, a 6 speed bullet proof 550ft/lb torque rated transmission. It get a little under 15 mpg in the mountains and about 18-19 mpg on flatland. I pulled a 8500 pound trailer easily through the mountains so it definitely wil handle your horses. Keep in mind you will see a terrific drop off in mpg pulling a load. I have seen the same thing with every brand I've ever owned.As is with any heavier load I do recommend a weight distribution hitch. Just make sure the Tundra you choose has the tow package which will get you the 4.30 gear ratio. Yes you heard that correctly a 4.30 rear gear! Saying that the main reason you'll want the Tundra is simple (reliability, resale). I just traded off my 2015 Tundra with an original sticker price of $43K and was given $40,500 towards my next vehicle. That vehicle is a Ram 3500. The Ram is only 2 years old and has 23,000 miles on it.

If you like sitting in the service department waiting room by all means buy the Ram. I've owned this truck for a couple weeks now and had the oil changed $125 which took 3 hours. I had the fuel filters changed which took 2.5 hours and $300. I was notified the truck has 4 outstanding recalls on it where it will need to be in the shop for at least a day. With all of my previous Tundra's I've never had anything done other than routine maintenance. You do what you want to do but the smart move is the Tundra and I currently don't own one because I got sick and tired of waiting on a diesel to modify!
 

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Hemi oil changes are not $125 and don't require fuel filter changes as frequently as diesels. The 2500 w/5.7 Hemi and 6-speed is a rock solid setup.

And a 3 hour oil change is an issue with the service department, not the truck...
 

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I had the 2500 Ram Hemi for several years too. It was a good truck and came in at 11.4 MPG empty. I got hammered when I traded it off! There's nothing like $600+ month payments over 60 months and breaking even at trade in time 3 years later. I got $33,500 on trade for my 2011 Tundra with 50,000 miles on it when I traded it in on my Tundra Pro. I had $17000 in equity to apply towards my trade! That same truck sold for $38,500 shortly after I traded it in.
 

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THANK YOU! Many constantly rave about "I bought a Toyota Tundra because its more reliable". What they don't realize is that the car market is very different than the truck market, and reliability wise, the latest generation of trucks from most, if not all, brands have all been very reliable. Like you said, its a wash.

Having owned both a 2010 and 2014 Tundra, it will get that job done but there is more margins of rating in the RAM 2500 you are mentioning.

In 2007 when the current generation Tundra's came out, they were top of their field for half-tons but have been eclipsed by the domestics in short order and not leading edge for anything. The re-skin 2014 redo still left the same frame, suspension and powertrains in place and is technically still stuck in 2007.

Also, Tundra's retains a way higher percentage of their value at trade-in but that is offset by the fact Toyota does not heavily discount or incentivize like RAM does on the front end of purchase.

In my opinion, you get more capability with a RAM than a Tundra at a lower price. My 2015 RAM 2500 with a 6.4 gets about the same mileage as a 1/2 Tundra 5.7 but I get way more towing and load capacity than the 1/2 ton Tundra for less when similarly equipped.
 
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Go out and take a picture of your mpg and post them now.
 

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I had the 2500 Ram Hemi for several years too. It was a good truck and came in at 11.4 MPG empty. I got hammered when I traded it off! There's nothing like $600+ month payments over 60 months and breaking even at trade in time 3 years later. I got $33,500 on trade for my 2011 Tundra with 50,000 miles on it when I traded it in on my Tundra Pro. I had $17000 in equity to apply towards my trade! That same truck sold for $38,500 shortly after I traded it in.

I'm sorry you made a bad deal don't take that out on ram. We all lover our trucks and that's why I posted wrong forum gona get biased anwsers your obviously biased in the tundra favor. How do you think this post will go in the tundra forums? Just let it go.

Edit: and if you think a half ton is gona out pull a HD your crazy power wide I get the tundra gets it almost same hp/tq and the tundra gets 4.30 axle vs 3.73 but no way could you put 700lbs on the hitch and load up another 1000 in the bed and not white knuckle it down the highway.
 
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I'm sorry you made a bad deal don't take that out on ram. We all lover our trucks and that's why I posted wrong forum gona get biased anwsers your obviously biased in the tundra favor. How do you think this post will go in the tundra forums? Just let it go.

Edit: and if you think a half ton is gona out pull a HD your crazy power wide I get the tundra gets it almost same hp/tq and the tundra gets 4.30 axle vs 3.73 but no way could you put 700lbs on the hitch and load up another 1000 in the bed and not white knuckle it down the highway.
I never said I don't like my Ram. I said the Tundra is the smartest choice. I didn't even make a bad deal. I more or less swapped trucks and paid a little boot for the lift, accessories and Cummins
 

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