Why does Ram tow the least?

[Dubstep Shep]

No sense in saying anything to this 23 year old it's obvious he knows all and done all. Anybody that can get 22 mpg with a 3.92 doing 80 mph must know something. Oh and 17 mpg towing 6k.

I'm very, very happy to prove it to you.

 

[Hemifatboy]

I'd be very very happy if that was possible but not so much , don't believe the dash board fuel use estimate

 

[Dubstep Shep]

I'd be very very happy if that was possible but not so much , don't believe the dash board fuel use estimate

Of course it's possible. That number is in ideal circumstances though. I don't usually get that good of mileage. Like right now I'm doing mixed city and highway driving and I've been getting around 17mpg.

 

[TRCM]

No sense in saying anything to this 23 year old it's obvious he knows all and done all. Anybody that can get 22 mpg with a 3.92 doing 80 mph must know something. Oh and 17 mpg towing 6k.

Wel, I have gotten 22 mpg in my 3.92 equipped truck....but it was @ 55, and not towing anything. Hand calculated, as the computer showed 22.9. Did it more than once too.

It appears you're right about the trailer brakes. I wonder though. Technically the trailer has brakes, but the truck didn't come with a brake controller, even though it's rated to tow that much. Technically you aren't pulling it without brakes.

This is just stupidity trying to be smart. If the brakes aren't hooked up to work, then they may as well not be there. Using 'words' to play on is just dumb.

It'd be liking laying in bed beside Kate Beckinsale while you **********, and then claiming you had sex with her cuz she technically was in the bed at the same time.




Anyway...this is what scares me more......

My point is that you can always be prepared.

That is simply not true. You can TRY & Be prepared, but you can never truly be prepared. Sometimes, stuff just happens, and you never expected it.

Example:
I was at work, and had on all my safety equipment and was doing my job by the book, when out of nowhere, a hose pressurized to over 1200 psi burst, and hit me in the chin, knocking me out and into the metal cabinets behind me. When I came too a couple of minutes later, I was kneeling in blood & water, and had a huge gash across my lower jaw/chin, and across the back of my head...both to the bone.

The hose was literally 12-14" from my face when it ruptured, and in the process, it ovalled out a 4" diameter stainless steel fitting, and threw the metal elbow that was attached to it and the now totally straight circular clamp holding it there across where I was standing, thru a stainless steel door, and 10-15' the other side of me. We are assuming the hose hit me, and not the fitting, as it likely would have killed me if it had.

I was in a narrow space, with maybe 3' between the cabinets behind me and the cabinet in front of me, and the pieces parts went thru that 3', at the same time I was there, and I ain't no little thing @ 300+ lbs myself.

So you can see where I was truly lucky that day...preparedness had little to do with it, altho my safety gear did save from worse potential injury. It almost immediately shut down all work for over a day while the investigation was conducted.

Investigation showed that the hose was improperly installed (capped so pressure could build up vice open for venting), and that the valve it was attached to was not correctly made, IE when it was shut & indicated shut, it was still actually 7% open, so it did not stop flow to the hose like it should have.

I am good now, but do have some nasty scar from that day.

 

[gofishn]

Gentlemen,
the last four pages of this thread is unworthy of this forum.

Don't feed the Trolls, nor risk banishment, by personal attacks.

CHeers

Dave

 

[Dubstep Shep]

Wel, I have gotten 22 mpg in my 3.92 equipped truck....but it was @ 55, and not towing anything. Hand calculated, as the computer showed 22.9. Did it more than once too.



This is just stupidity trying to be smart. If the brakes aren't hooked up to work, then they may as well not be there. Using 'words' to play on is just dumb.

It'd be liking laying in bed beside Kate Beckinsale while you **********, and then claiming you had sex with her cuz she technically was in the bed at the same time.




Anyway...this is what scares me more......




That is simply not true. You can TRY & Be prepared, but you can never truly be prepared. Sometimes, stuff just happens, and you never expected it.

Example:
I was at work, and had on all my safety equipment and was doing my job by the book, when out of nowhere, a hose pressurized to over 1200 psi burst, and hit me in the chin, knocking me out and into the metal cabinets behind me. When I came too a couple of minutes later, I was kneeling in blood & water, and had a huge gash across my lower jaw/chin, and across the back of my head...both to the bone.

The hose was literally 12-14" from my face when it ruptured, and in the process, it ovalled out a 4" diameter stainless steel fitting, and threw the metal elbow that was attached to it and the now totally straight circular clamp holding it there across where I was standing, thru a stainless steel door, and 10-15' the other side of me. We are assuming the hose hit me, and not the fitting, as it likely would have killed me if it had.

I was in a narrow space, with maybe 3' between the cabinets behind me and the cabinet in front of me, and the pieces parts went thru that 3', at the same time I was there, and I ain't no little thing @ 300+ lbs myself.

So you can see where I was truly lucky that day...preparedness had little to do with it, altho my safety gear did save from worse potential injury. It almost immediately shut down all work for over a day while the investigation was conducted.

Investigation showed that the hose was improperly installed (capped so pressure could build up vice open for venting), and that the valve it was attached to was not correctly made, IE when it was shut & indicated shut, it was still actually 7% open, so it did not stop flow to the hose like it should have.

I am good now, but do have some nasty scar from that day.

How is something failing because of improper installation NOT preventable?

Install it correctly.

Every accident is preventable. I see the proof every day working in Oil and Gas everyday. Especially with BOPs, which is what I do.

I work for a company called Texas Oil Tools, where we make things like coil tubing BOPs.

You know how many field failures we've had? Zero. That isn't an accident.

 

[TRCM]

How is something failing because of improper installation NOT preventable?

Install it correctly.

Every accident is preventable. I see the proof every day working in Oil and Gas everyday. Especially with BOPs, which is what I do.

I work for a company called Texas Oil Tools, where we make things like coil tubing BOPs.

You know how many field failures we've had? Zero. That isn't an accident.

Figured as much....you know everything.

I didn't install it...I didn't make the valve that didn't shut.

But you're right I see that now....


Anyway the point is/was....how am I supposed to be prepared for someone else's failure ??

Things happen, and you can not always be prepared for them. No matter what you say.

The rest of us realize this....and one day, you will too, I just hope it doesn't kill you teaching you.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

Figured as much....you know everything.

I didn't install it...I didn't make the valve that didn't shut.

But you're right I see that now....


Anyway the point is/was....how am I supposed to be prepared for someone else's failure ??

Things happen, and you can not always be prepared for them. No matter what you say.

The rest of us realize this....and one day, you will too, I just hope it doesn't kill you teaching you.

Still missing the point I see.

You're a grunt in that situation, not the one in charge of safety. Whoever your HSE supervisor is failed at his job, period.

When you're towing, you're the one in charge of safety.

 

[TRCM]

Whatever...I'm done

At 51, I've lived long enough to know things happen that you simply can't prepare for, no matter how adamantly you claim to be able to. The best you can hope for is to be able to survive, and learn from it.

Thinking you can always control the outcome of life, well, that is called commonly called arrogance, and it often times ends up killing those who don't grow out of it.

 

[Limeybastard]

Here's a picture of the road I'm talking about doing 60 on. The pic was at night so it's a little hard to see, but basically there's a ton of cleared area to the side of the highway. There also aren't but a few entrances and exits the entire length we travel. We've also never towed it at night, this was just a picture I snapped awhile back.

You got your lights on? Looks really dim and yellow

 

[Andy578]

I'd be very very happy if that was possible but not so much , don't believe the dash board fuel use estimate

i average 24 not towing and 18 with a mix of towing. all hand calculated not going by the EVIC which is off by about 2mpg for me

also i love the way everyone is jumping down this guys throat. i see this **** happening more and more lately and it needs to stop. i come here because there's usually a nice civilized discussion, if i wanted to hear people ******** back and forth i'd go to 4chan

PS i pulled 20k lbs yesterday come at me

 

[Dubstep Shep]

You got your lights on? Looks really dim and yellow

I'm guessing you're being sarcastic? Hahaha that pic was in my 2003 Ram that had HIDs. Really frigging bright ones too.

 

[Limeybastard]

I'm guessing you're being sarcastic? Hahaha that pic was in my 2003 Ram that had HIDs. Really frigging bright ones too.

Of course I was ;-)

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[clh1220]

i average 24 not towing and 18 with a mix of towing. all hand calculated not going by the EVIC which is off by about 2mpg for me

also i love the way everyone is jumping down this guys throat. i see this **** happening more and more lately and it needs to stop. i come here because there's usually a nice civilized discussion, if i wanted to hear people ******** back and forth i'd go to 4chan

PS i pulled 20k lbs yesterday come at me

Is that a US gallon or your Canadian gallon. If you pulled 20k with a 1500 on a road with other people, you are just not right ,if you did. Is that too much of a personal attack , thatyou keep talking about.

 

[skHemi64]

For me, all "3" truck makers have close enough tow ratings to each other for MY needs (1 tons). It came down to looks. Love the look of the Ram, hate the look of the Ford and Chevy. Gotta draw the line somewhere.

 

[Hemifatboy]

I get in the 12 to 13 mpg running around town , maybe it will go up as it breaks in , I still don't believe 22 mpg at 80 mph and 16 towing 6k , unless that's a brief clip down hill , or as they used to say down the highway. As for outrageous towing claims , I once had a 3/4 ton pickup tow my fully loaded semi on snow covered roads , that's 80,000 lbs plus his truck , I thought he was joking when he suggested it , my fuel had gelled at 20 below in Maine but I still had air to release breaks , towed me 10 miles down the road right into the truckstop repair bay to thaw out , I was ******** bricks the whole way

 

[Hemifatboy]

This was around 1990 so 25 years ago and a ford truck... Ouch , probably not even a diesel , I don't remember them having a diesel back then

 

[cc rider]

Looks and interior. Nobody can touch the ram on either. I like the looks of the ford. Its mean and aggressive looking too in my opinion. But , those stupid vents on the interior are the ugliest thing. Its like having windows with shutters in there!

For me, all "3" truck makers have close enough tow ratings to each other for MY needs (1 tons). It came down to looks. Love the look of the Ram, hate the look of the Ford and Chevy. Gotta draw the line somewhere.

 

[Hemifatboy]

I bought the ram for the 6.4 hemi the fully boxed frame and the 5 link in rear and 3 link in front suspension , the looks were a bonus for me

 

[Andy578]

Is that a US gallon or your Canadian gallon. If you pulled 20k with a 1500 on a road with other people, you are just not right ,if you did. Is that too much of a personal attack , thatyou keep talking about.

US, it converts to just under 29 if you use a real gallon. they key is really the difference in speed limits keeping the rpm lower. of course there's also weather and terrain to consider. i also do very little city driving so no stop and go and MDS is active a lot

For me, all "3" truck makers have close enough tow ratings to each other for MY needs (1 tons). It came down to looks. Love the look of the Ram, hate the look of the Ford and Chevy. Gotta draw the line somewhere.

i do wish they would add an option for leaf springs tho even if it only gives a slight boost to the ratings it would help a lot with squat