Anyone HAPPY with Borg Warner 44-44 / Auto 4WD

6.7CumminsDrvr · Dec 16, 2018

And while I’m at it, I’d like to take this opportunity to answer the question asked in the title of this wonderful thread.............

I AM NOW!

huntergreen · Dec 16, 2018

Been happy with this transfer case since 2011.

LouM · Dec 16, 2018

Hemi395 said:
From what I understand this is the difference between 4Auto and 4Lock on the 44-44:

4Auto engages the front axle disconnect and has variable engagement of the clutch (up to 100% engaged) to the front wheels depending on rear wheel spin. However it still requires the ball ramp setup to engage.

4Lock engages the clutch 100% but it still requires the ball ramp to engage before the front wheels have power.

Theorectically, I would think 4Auto is harder on the clutches because they're not fully engaged when the ball ramp spins up. I still don't understand why the ball ramp is even necessary in this Tcase.

The electric part of the clutch can not transfer a even a small percentage of the torque available to the front axle. The more torque the rear axle receives the tighter it can cam the ball ramp to transfer the torque to the front axle. Without that ramp and ball the clutch will not hold, that is why in very low traction situations the clutch slips and over heats.
If the rear wheels have decent traction the front axle will work fine.

Moparman16 · Dec 16, 2018

6.7CumminsDrvr said:
And while I’m at it, I’d like to take this opportunity to answer the question asked in the title of this wonderful thread.............

I AM NOW!

I think a lot of people will be happy with the 44-44 now, knowing that they can get rid of it lol

chrisbh17 · Dec 16, 2018

Just happy to have the option, I guess.

Not going to jump on it until its really necessary, which may never happen for me (MaxCare lifetime, transfer case should be covered).

Moparman16 · Dec 16, 2018

6.7CumminsDrvr said:
Of course the next question ‘cuz we’re never satisfied..........anyone attempted the Alpha software on the Gen5 trucks? I’d Love to grab a 5th Gen without having to buy a Rebel to get the tcase I want. The selectable rear locker and full bench in the back with a flat floor and extra legroom is VERY appealing to me!

If I were you I would just hold out for a 5th gen 2500

Moparman16 · Dec 16, 2018

chrisbh17 said:
Just happy to have the option, I guess.

Not going to jump on it until its really necessary, which may never happen for me (MaxCare lifetime, transfer case should be covered).

That’s totally understandable. My truck’s warranty was over so I just decided to take matters into my own hands.

6.7CumminsDrvr · Dec 16, 2018

Moparman16 said:
If I were you I would just hold out for a 5th gen 2500

I’d really like a PW but this truck is just about paid for.........and now that I know I can take care of the 44-44 a pair of PW axles may wind up under this thing some day

And I have the Lifetime Maxcare ....

indept · Dec 16, 2018

chrisbh17 said:
Just happy to have the option, I guess.

Not going to jump on it until its really necessary, which may never happen for me (MaxCare lifetime, transfer case should be covered).

Yes, my situation too. It works for me and if / when it breaks I'll let the dealer fix it :cheers:

6.7CumminsDrvr · Dec 17, 2018

@Moparman16 once you post the full rundown we need to make sure a Mod makes it a sticky

Hemi395 · Dec 17, 2018

chrisbh17 said:
Just happy to have the option, I guess.

Not going to jump on it until its really necessary, which may never happen for me (MaxCare lifetime, transfer case should be covered).

That's exactly what I like about this, we have an option now if the 44-44 burns up

ColdCase · Dec 17, 2018

Hemi395 said:
4Auto engages the front axle disconnect and has variable engagement of the clutch (up to 100% engaged) to the front wheels depending on rear wheel spin. However it still requires the ball ramp setup to engage.

Unlike some other transfer cases (like the MP cases Jeep and GM use) there is no partial engagement of the clutch pack, its either turned on or off (connected or not). 0-100% is done entirely mechanically via the ball ramp. The more the ball ramps up the more torque gets transferred.

Wether it waits for wheel spin or not to engage in auto seems to depend on model year.

Moparman16 · Dec 17, 2018

6.7CumminsDrvr said:
@Moparman16 once you post the full rundown we need to make sure a Mod makes it a sticky

I have made some posts on other threads and forums spreading the word. I will do a formal write up tonight.

Hemi395 · Dec 18, 2018

Has anyone contacted RSG and informed them of what we can do with Alfaobd?

Moparman16 · Dec 18, 2018

Hemi395 said:
Has anyone contacted RSG and informed them of what we can do with Alfaobd?

I think someone was is contact with them before I did the swap telling them about the AlfaOBD software

Moparman16 · Dec 18, 2018

6.7CumminsDrvr said:
I contacted RSG and they responded, Hope to talk with them tomorrow

@Hemi395 here is who contacted them awhile back

Hemi395 · Dec 18, 2018

Moparman16 said:
@Hemi395 here is who contacted them awhile back

Cool thanks guess I missed that post

6.7CumminsDrvr · Dec 18, 2018

Moparman16 said:
I think someone was is contact with them before I did the swap telling them about the AlfaOBD software

I let George know your swap was successful and I offered to relay the details once you did the “write up”.

He definitely wants to know the steps on the electronics since that was really their only hang up but since I haven’t actually attempted this YET, I didn’t want to give any wrong info.

You’re more than welcome to get in touch with George if you’d prefer, he’s super easy to get ahold of.

I’ve been very clear to George someone else was actually doing this, not me. I’m not getting anything out of this from George or anything like that. He just asked that I keep him in the loop if it worked and pass it along if I wouldn’t mind. Just so happen to reach out to George right as this was all coming together

Moparman16 · Dec 18, 2018

6.7CumminsDrvr said:
I let George know your swap was successful and I offered to relay the details once you did the “write up”.

He definitely wants to know the steps on the electronics since that was really their only hang up but since I haven’t actually attempted this YET, I didn’t want to give any wrong info.

You’re more than welcome to get in touch with George if you’d prefer, he’s super easy to get ahold off.

I’ve been working on the write up as i’ve had time the past few days. Just been swamped with work lately. Once I post the write up you can go ahead and send it to George.

Moparman16 · Dec 18, 2018

@6.7CumminsDrvr
Maybe hang tight on letting George know. I changed my mind and want to contact him personally. I have an idea that may save us all some money on this swap.

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