Bilstein 2.8" + 3" PA BL + 20x12 + 35x12.50

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So this cabin fever has set in for being in the house snowed/iced in for 3 days. I decided to venture out to my local dealer (less than 2 miles away) and kill some time. They had 3 4th gens lifted 6" each using FabTech lifts. 1 on 35x12.50x20 Trail Grapplers on some what appeared to be 20x9 Monsters. The other 2 both had "Ultra" wheels I believe that look even narrower, or had a much more positive offset because they sat in more in comparison to the Monsters, but these 2 had 37" Mickey Thompsons! On the ones on 37s I could see where they trimmed out the lower bumper valence but nothing on the door side in the fender wells, surely it doesn't rub or they wouldn't sell a brand new truck that way???? Regardless after seeing the 6" Lift on 35s in person I definitely don't think 20x12 would fit. Back to the drawing board!!!

Now after reading the "Dealerships Installing Body Lifts" thread I may try to negotiate that into the truck deal and save myself some manual labor. The kit is supposedly 2" leveling kit + 3" PA body lift and still retains all factory warranties. Not a bad gig. If this was the case, and I'd have 5"s of lift, I think I would go with some tall 33x12.50s and run the 20x12s with no rubbing.

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I have 35's with 2.5inch front level and a 3inch PA BL... running 17x9 rims with 35x12.5 Toyo MT's and I dont rub, the offset on my rims is +20, however im running 1 inch wheel spacers (25.4mm) thus creating a -5.4mm offset, i think your going to have issues, cause when i turn my wheels to the right and get out and look at the drivers side it sits about 1.5inchs from the corner of the fender (38mm away) i dont rub anywhere though.
 

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Loved your 2wd followed it through its stages that was a nice truck, 3500 looks good to I say just do a 6" rcx lift and run the x12s and 35s I thinkyoud still make it in the garage also you'd have the option to add bilsteins or body lift later on if you decide to
 

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Cant wait to see what you go with
 

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Great "real world" info white beauty, exactly what I need to make all my calculations

just remember my toyos at 12.5 are really a 13inch wide. so if you put a metric size that is close to an actual 12.5 you gain an extra 1/4 from my spacing.
 
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Spent some more bored time on another chop...this one should be (as close as I could measure in Photoshop) a pretty good rendering of 5"s of lift and 33s...at the last minute I through in the red grill inserts, on the fence about it, but could look good for a "theme"

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That's cool. I'd match the strip to the grille if you go that route. I think it could look sweet.
 
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I think I have a winner...courtesy of member Tqm761 for the pics of his 2" Level + 3" PA BL Outdoorsman on facotry 20s/33s I could easily chop a pic of the exact truck height and tire height...this is 5" of lift on 33s on 20x12

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is your truck actually being ordered with the ( power wagon ) paint scheme ???? or is that your pretty good photo shop skills lol. ????

That looks sick btw ! I really hope you can pull this off.
 
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is your truck actually being ordered with the ( power wagon ) paint scheme ???? or is that your pretty good photo shop skills lol. ????

That looks sick btw ! I really hope you can pull this off.

It is being ordered with the Outdoorsman Paint Scheme of Bright White Upper and Black Clear Coat Lower. I will just add the red stripe as I really liked that look on the power wagons.


mine is only 4.3" lol

You think the 5" will be too much for the 33s? I've only seen a handful of pics of your truck and each one is just at an awkward angle where I can't really make out the look with the lift on 33s / 20x12. Do you have a bunch of pics hiding somewhere that you can share? :popcorn:
 
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So after seeing some different width / offsets in person I've definitely decided to pass on the 20x12s. I also have fallen in love with the Laramie Longhorn interior and I'm considering (depending on what kind of deal I can negotiate) pursuing the Longhorn. I'm pretty OCD when it comes to black / brown and wouldn't want the luxurious brown interior with an aggressive style black exterior. I've built 2 white / black theme trukcs and I think I want to mix it up this time. Lots up in the air but I thought I'd share some more photoshop boredom. If I went the Longhorn route I would do 22" Bronze XD Monsters on 35s, still with the 2.8 Bilsteins and the 3" PA BL (once available for the EcoDiesel). Before and after for comparison:

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Straighten out the wheel, you're gonna wreck!!!! lol

Think it will look sweet. :)
 

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I loved your old trucks, I remember seeing them before. I like seeing your thought process. I really think you would rub with the 20x12. I think you could pull of 20x10 -24 but not 20x12 -44. Good luck and I can't wait to see your progress on this truck, I'm sure it will be impressive.
On a side note, I'm just noticing that the 2014 outdoorsmans are going with a black 2 tone instead of the mineral grey 2 tone like my current truck. I do like your 1st rendering with the white/black on page 1, looks pretty sharp man!
 

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I've been stuck on this dilemma myself for about 4 days and with no definitive answer I gave up and ordered them with 33's. I like low and wide so I'm going with it. Should be by the first of the year. I think I'm going to take out my leveling kit at the same time and put bilsteins all the way around since I've got 103k on the stock shocks now.


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