Headers

I’m looking into buying shorty headers for my 13 Ram 5.7 I’m just wondering what brand is good that will give me my bang for my buck and won’t cause any leak problems or what extra I need to buy after I purchase headers to prevent leaks??? Kind of a noob question but I’m just curious.

Squintsy said:

I’m looking into buying shorty headers for my 13 Ram 5.7 I’m just wondering what brand is good that will give me my bang for my buck and won’t cause any leak problems or what extra I need to buy after I purchase headers to prevent leaks??? Kind of a noob question but I’m just curious.

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From what I've read BBK's are NOT the ones to get.

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What do you suggest, I was actually thinking BBKs but I saw a lot of bad reviews and I was like nevermind. Maybe JBAs???

Just curious why your looking into shorties?
Why not just go all the way and get long tubes?

JBA is one that makes good headers.

I would go Long Tubes but I’m just looking for something that’s simple and I don’t need to change anything from the Cats down, also I’m in college and I just paid my tuition, not to much cash, lol

Not to hijack this thread, but what are the differences and benefits of short vs long headers? Thank you

I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will chime in, but from what I've read, the shorties are cheaper and easier to install. They seems to be a direct replacement for the OEM manifolds. The Long tubes are more $$, and sometimes a lot harder to install. Also, when I was looking at them just the other day, several sites state that the LTs are for "off-road use only" usually meaning they're not smog legal.

As far as I know Long Tubes are totally legal as long as you have Cats still... get a catless Y pipe then yes of course they are "track only" or "off road only".
I believe Long tubes have the potential to make more power if your going with a big cam or supercharger.... Shorties are the everyday just better than manifolds type deal.

Yeah you can buy LTs with cats just pricey plus you need a tuner, But you get a big hp gain . ARH with cats on ebay are $1,700 bucks.
Shorties are cheaper and easier and from what I am told you dont need a tuner but the hp gains are less.

IMO a person buys shorties to get the junk stock manifolds and bolts off the truck..lol
With the small bennift of a better flowing exhaust, smoother running motor, and about 8hp gain.

Thx for explaining!

Here's the run down. Pretty much what's been said but, long tubes will increase your power and torque throughout the entire power curve (as long as you don't get to large of primaries,) as well as give a nice throaty sound. They are definitely more expensive then shorties and require either also buying a matching y/mid pipe or having some custom tubing fabbed. They don't REQUIRE a tune however to see the real full potential of them yes your gunna want a custom tune. Shorties are basically a direct replacement to the crappy manifold. They will flow a bit better then stock and if you dynod before and after you might see just a few eagles appear but I mean maybe just a few, nothing you'll feel outside of a placebo affect. But they are convenient as far as price and installation and can (most often) bolt up directly to your stock set up. Never once have I seen someone get shorties (who wanted some added power and rumble) and say "dang I glad I went with shorties" lol. You will be disappointed. HOWEVER if you wanna just scrap the stock manifold and flow a bit better and nothing more expected then shorties will be just fine.

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Also as was stated, BBK is bottom of the barrel lol

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For JBA shorty headers would the gaskets that come with it be ideal or have there been problems with them leaking and if so. Where should I buy bolts and gaskets from? So that way I don’t use the JBA provided gaskets and bolts.

Squintsy said:

For JBA shorty headers would the gaskets that come with it be ideal or have there been problems with them leaking and if so. Where should I buy bolts and gaskets from? So that way I don’t use the JBA provided gaskets and bolts.

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Most guys run OEM Mopar gaskets and use the supplied bolts from the headers.

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Most guys run OEM Mopar gaskets and use the supplied bolts from the headers.

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Where do I get the OEM molar gaskets, would I have to go to the dealerot I can find them online? Sorry if the question sounds dumb this is my first time doing something major to the exhaust and engine.

Squintsy said:

Where do I get the OEM molar gaskets, would I have to go to the dealerot I can find them online? Sorry if the question sounds dumb this is my first time doing something major to the exhaust and engine.

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Moes sells the mopar gaskets

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Any RAM/FCA dealer can get them too. I'd find out the MOPAR part# and just google your way to the cheapest one available.

As many guys have said, while shorties are better than stock, they only give half the gain f longtubes. With the JBA shorties being only a few dollars cheaper than their longtube headers, I would go with the longtubes myself. They are still clamp on, so the install is no more difficult. I actually think it is easier to install longtubes because there is more room to get to the actual header bolts.

The supplied bolts work great, but I would get the Mopar 6.1L Hemi gaskets instead of what come with the headers.

Do the JBA long tubes require moving the dipstick tube? I've read that the ARHs do.