5in lift 2500 Q's

I have a 2000 2500 4wd with the gas 5.9. I wanted to lift my truck 5 inches so i started looking up stuff to do it. A lot of the springs said they would fit 1500 and 2500 which doesnt make sense to me. So i went to a different forum to ask some questions and now im even more confused. I know that the 2500 rear springs are wider so they are different from the 1500 but the front is what is confusing me. They told me that the springs are the same height but have different rates. But how is a 2500 2in taller if they are the same height springs and if you put 2500 springs on a 1500 you get 2in lift? I understand on the diesel and big gas motor they would have a stiff rate for the heavy weight of engine but that doesnt make since on the v8. The 1500 and 2500 v8 have same motor and body so how is it 2in taller in front? If I put skyjacker 5in springs in front that both say lift 1500 and 2500 the same will they actually give me same amount? I also read that if you lift the 1500 offroad model package you actually get 2in less lift does that work the same on the 2500 gas 5.9?

I might be overlooking something but I dont just understand. So to make it short my 2 q's are how is the 2500 taller than a 1500 if the springs are the same so where does it get the extra height? frame im assumin? Also if I put 5in lift springs that say both fit 1500 and 2500 gas 5.9 will I get same lift amount or do I have to subtract?

Thanks I appreciate any help

- Tyler

Example

I have Skyjacker D70 front springs they are listed to fit gas V8 1500/2500 trucks, Skyjacker D75 spring are for 2500V10 & Diesel trucks. Many of the aftermarket springs are listed this way. If I was to put in the D75 springs I would get 2.5" more lift and a harder ride.

Edit to add link; http://dodgeram.org/tech/specs/springs.htm

So youre saying that aftermarket coil springs would lift my 2500 the same amount as a 1500 if they are good for 1500/2500?

According to that link the stock v8 2500 springs are taller than 1500 springs. So if I put 1500/2500 aftermarket springs on do I have to subtract the lift amount since im replacing them and theyre already higher? Like instead of 5in lift I would get 3in

Some info; The v8 gas 2500 trucks do sit taller than the 1500 trucks, in part from the larger front diff (Dana 60 over the Dana 44) and different springs. When the 1500 guys get these aftermarket springs they are upgrading to a 2500 spring, many don't know that. When I installed my Dana 60 I went up about an inch.

If you buy an aftermarket spring like the Skyjacker D50 you will go up 5".

2500 v8 stock front coil springs are taller then 1500 stock front coils iirc.

Offroad edition 1500's have same height springs as a reg 1500 but compress at a higher rate, giving more lift. They should sit same height as a 2500. The ORE 1500 springs will "hold" more weight then the reg 1500 springs, the compression rate, and give you the 2" lift even though they are physically the same length.

Great info in Merc's link, it shows the different rates.

edit: was also just ninja'd by him.

I didnt even think about the axle differences. Thats exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you.

Johnn123 said:

2500 v8 stock front coil springs are taller then 1500 stock front coils iirc.

Offroad edition 1500's have same height springs as a reg 1500 but compress at a higher rate, giving more lift. They should sit same height as a 2500. The ORE 1500 springs will "hold" more weight then the reg 1500 springs, the compression rate, and give you the 2" lift even though they are physically the same length.

Great info in Merc's link, it shows the different rates.

edit: was also just ninja'd by him.

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That chart and the factory parts book go hand in hand.

IIRC, the Ram ORE springs and 2500 gasser springs are actually the same, which is how the ORE is 2inches taller as the springs are the same length as the regular half ton springs, but stiffer.

At least that's what I understand it to be.

dodge dude94 said:

IIRC, the Ram ORE springs and 2500 gasser springs are actually the same, which is how the ORE is 2inches taller as the springs are the same length as the regular half ton springs, but stiffer.

At least that's what I understand it to be.

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Hmm interestin. Ive always understood the 1500 ORE height comes from compression rate, while 2500 springs are physically longer. Merc's link seems to support that too. This is actually the first none forum posted info on 2nd gen ORE's ive seen haha.

Adding Off-Roadster coils to a standard 1500 4x4 should yield approximately 1 3/4" of lift while adding 2500 springs to a 1500 will be closer to, or possibly more than 2". Additionally, the Off-Roadster coils should slip right in once you have the axle dropped, but 2500 coils would probably need to be compressed for installation.

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Then again Im pretty sure Ive read about people swapping 1500 for 2500 springs and not needing to compress.

Hopefully someone will chime in with a definite on that.

Depends on the method used to change the springs, I have yet to use a spring compressor I just undo a few parts and let the diff drop down.

Merc225hp said:

Depends on the method used to change the springs, I have yet to use a spring compressor I just undo a few parts and let the diff drop down.

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Yeah exactly, which is why I wasn't fully sure if they were longer or not aha. With the right hoisting equipment shouldnt be an issue on length I wouldnt think.