catch can yes? or no?

[GP4L]

thoughts on catch can and does it extend the life of the truck? what exactly do they do?

truck is a 2015 ram 4x4. mostly highway miles and from now on lots of towing highway miles...probably about 20k miles towing a year or so.

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[arod412]

This is hemi450hp really looks like with the sales from this site alone..

Truck name: Rampage

 

[Hemi450hp]

You got me...haha.

 

[GP4L]

On the flip side of things, could the extra oil in the incoming air help lubricate the engine?

The parts that need lubrication, are already getting lubrication. It's really just another reason why intake piping and throttle bodies gunk up. Heavier oil is not as volatile or flammable, so it can result in lower combustion energy (less power) if vaporized with the air/fuel mixture.

Now, *if* enough oil getting pulled into a cylinder doesn't vaporize, that can cause compression pressure to increase to an unsafe level (as liquids do not compress - it's reducing the squish area for the air/fuel mixture by taking up space). This can cause detonation. It's usually not an issue if enough of the oil does vaporize and mix with the air/gas, as oil is comparable to high octane (which is why diesel is made from heavier refined crude oil - because diesel engines are designed with much higher compression ratios), but because the compression ratio still isn't that high (only high enough to possibly pre-ignite a normal gasoline/air mix), it's unlikely that combustion energy would be greater than it would under normal circumstances. It'll most likely be inconstant too.

This next bit is my opinion : proper catch can setup can be useful - as I explained above - it keeps the air/fuel mixture pure, helps reduce gunk buildup, lowers the contamination of crankcase oil. But when I used to build and fix people's toy cars... I've seen some biblically ******** catch can setup done by DIY'ers. So please, know what you're doing, or take it to a professional... Regardless, the more stock a car/truck is, the less likely a catch can is going to help enough to quantify the price (of a quality one). And it would probably be a good idea to find out if it voids the powertrain warranty before installing one.

 

[chris1965]

This next bit is my opinion : proper catch can setup can be useful - as I explained above - it keeps the air/fuel mixture pure, helps reduce gunk buildup, lowers the contamination of crankcase oil. But when I used to build and fix people's toy cars... I've seen some biblically ******** catch can setup done by DIY'ers. So please, know what you're doing, or take it to a professional... Regardless, the more stock a car/truck is, the less likely a catch can is going to help enough to quantify the price (of a quality one). And it would probably be a good idea to find out if it voids the powertrain warranty before installing one.

I really like your opinion.
what also helps to keep gunk out- because every engine has it- some more, some less- is clean air and therefore a functional and clean air filter.
dirt in the air gives the oil something to attach to, it starts sticking to the intake walls and it's like with everything- where some dirt is already there, it builds up more and the more, the faster.
If stock, do you regular maintenance and you should be good to go.

 

[jknappen]

I just think it is complete horse**** that catch cans for what they are are over 100 bux even in ebay. It is sad that 2 control arms complete with ball joints are cheaper than 1 little catch can. Sellers and mfgrs are freekin proud of them....... Im in the wrong business


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[Hemi450hp]

I just think it is complete horse**** that catch cans for what they are are over 100 bux even in ebay. It is sad that 2 control arms complete with ball joints are cheaper than 1 little catch can. Sellers and mfgrs are freekin proud of them....... Im in the wrong business


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And what kind of material are your cheap control arms made of? Were they made in the US or mass produced in a Chinese factory?

Cant believe a tiny little wedding ring can cost $10,000 when that's what I paid for my 2011 Ram Express with 75,000 miles on it.

Everything costs money, and the higher quality you receive, the more expensive it is going to be...simple as that.

 

[AFMoulton]

Maybe 15 or 20 years ago, regular maint on an engine would be enough, but now with all this emissions crap, you need to help where you can, keeping crap out of the intake manifold is a good idea, an OCC will help that, if you read the whole thread that RLK posted, then you will have some good information

Whats weird is I see people down all these items to help keep engines clean, or better lubrication, but then I work on $50+ Million dollar aircraft everyday, and guess what our low bypass augmented jet engines have, an OCC, and they use oil that has a lot of Moly in it. Weird.........

 

[AFMoulton]

And what kind of material are your cheap control arms made of? Were they made in the US or mass produced in a Chinese factory?

Cant believe a tiny little wedding ring can cost $10,000 when that's what I paid for my 2011 Ram Express with 75,000 miles on it.

Everything costs money, and the higher quality you receive, the more expensive it is going to be...simple as that.

Why can't I like this!!!

 

[ExpressRules]

Cant believe a tiny little wedding ring can cost $10,000 when that's what I paid for my 2011 Ram Express with 75,000 miles on it.

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WOW !!!! Now I see why you have to sell so many over priced Catch Cans, you spent 10K on a wedding ring.

 

[Hemi450hp]

HAHA...I didnt spend $10k on a wedding ring, but I have seen many rings that were much more expensive than $10k. Point is that just because an item is small doesnt mean it is cheap. And what's even funnier to me is that aside from a thermostat, a catch can is the next cheapest performance part you can buy for your truck.

Some guys are perfectly fine with leaving their truck stock, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. But anyone that wants reliable performance out of their truck and does plan to modify it will benefit from a catch can. There are quite a few tuners out there that wont even tune your vehicle if you dont have 1 installed because they dont want to deal with the spark knock and inconsistency while tuning a vehicle without one.

 

[chris1965]

HAHA...I didnt spend $10k on a wedding ring, but I have seen many rings that were much more expensive than $10k. Point is that just because an item is small doesnt mean it is cheap. And what's even funnier to me is that aside from a thermostat, a catch can is the next cheapest performance part you can buy for your truck.

well, I say- it's not worth what you want- it's worth what somebody is willing to pay for it. and if you think a ring is worth 10K and somebody just gives you 3K, well, then it's just worth 3K.
millions of Americans make this experience every day in the hundred thousands of pawn shops around the country
I take one for 20 bucks. that's what I would be willing to pay for it. If not, I don't need it.

 

[Hemi450hp]

If someone feels that its not worth what they cost, then they simply dont buy one. Nothing wrong with that at all.

But if someone wants to increase the performance of their truck, then that means they have already spent a lot more than just the $140 that a quality catch can costs.

Anyone notice how all the guys that say catch cans are not worth it are driving stock trucks? Yet everyone with performance upgrades that is making good power and running fast at the track is running a catch can...hmmmmmm.

 

[ExpressRules]

HAHA...I didnt spend $10k on a wedding ring, but I have seen many rings that were much more expensive than $10k. Point is that just because an item is small doesnt mean it is cheap. And what's even funnier to me is that aside from a thermostat, a catch can is the next cheapest performance part you can buy for your truck.

Some guys are perfectly fine with leaving their truck stock, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. But anyone that wants reliable performance out of their truck and does plan to modify it will benefit from a catch can. There are quite a few tuners out there that wont even tune your vehicle if you dont have 1 installed because they dont want to deal with the spark knock and inconsistency while tuning a vehicle without one.

And the way this thread has turned is the reason I questioned the OP's reason for starting yet another CC thread. He was a member long enough to know what these threads turn into.

In my mind, nobody should argue against using a CC, while on the other hand those that do shouldn't talk down to those that don't.

There is plenty of evidence that CC's work and is important for owners who install certain power mods. There is also plenty of evidence that those that don't have them on stock trucks won't blow up because of it.

Everyone just needs to shake hands and agree the constant fight over this item is silly.

 

[AFMoulton]

^^^^^ YEAP!!!

 

[BlownGP]

THIS AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All the cool kids have catch cans.. DUH!!

 

[Rzrman328]

I want one cause they're purrrrrty......

 

[jknappen]

Lets think about the "quality" of a catch can. Its not a diamond it is a piece of aluminum pressed out like a beverage can just thicker aluminum. Then some fittings ( cheap at any store). And some rubber hose. My point was that it is an inexpensive item and shouldnt cost what it does. It catches oil simple as that. Dont want a catch can. Run the blow by tube straight down from the pcv so that the oil runs out. Problem solved and rubber hose is cheaper than 100+ bucks. I can see why you get mad hemi450hp if they dont sell you dont eat. Show me where catch cans add performance from actual dyno and tune sheets. Learn about simple mechanics. Also while a lower rated thermostat will help make your engine run cooler, it does not add any meaningful hp. The difference is again negligible.


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[jknappen]

Sure your catch cans are made in america. But in a factory owned by Chinese.


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[jknappen]

Or by aluminum made somewhere other than america


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