Ecodiesel sled deck and 2 place trailer

[Fromwithin]

I posted this question on another section of the forum but have not received any response. Probably better here.
I am eventually looking to purchase the Ecodiesel. My question is this,
I have thought about getting a sled deck to fit on the bed for 2 sleds and my 2 place trailer, but that might overload the payload?

Anyone have any idea what the payload would be on a Big Horn CC EcoDiesel W/ air suspension, do you think it wold be fine hauling 2 sleds in the trailer and 2 sleds on the sled deck?
I would think with 2 sleds on the deck including deck would be around 1000lb. The trailer itself would be around 1900lb (Tongue weight @ 15% = 285lb). Then with 4 guys and equipment I would gather an extra 850 lbs.
So total that up and payload would be roughly = 2135lb
I would think even at RAM's Max payload they must have a buffer for error on the weight. Any thoughts?

 

[rwalk]

It would be over payload and also make your rear end squat like crazy.. Sounds like you are better off getting a 4 spot trailer


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[Fromwithin]

It would be over payload and also make your rear end squat like crazy.. Sounds like you are better off getting a 4 spot trailer


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I thought about the 4 place trailer but the areas I sled the smaller the trailer the better.
You don't think with the self leveling air suspension it would minimize the sag?

 

[rwalk]

I thought about the 4 place trailer but the areas I sled the smaller the trailer the better.

You don't think with the self leveling air suspension it would minimize the sag?

It would probably minimize the sag, yes, but it's still far over payload.. If you weren't also towing a trailer id say give it a shot but the combination will be tough on the truck in my opinion


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[smurfs_of_war]

I thought about the 4 place trailer but the areas I sled the smaller the trailer the better.
You don't think with the self leveling air suspension it would minimize the sag?

I have read that the air suspension has a built in fail safe. If you are over weight (or over a certain weight?) it will shut itself down or deactivate to prevent the system from overheating. Sounds like you are better off with a standard coil suspension with bags or some other helper- or a 3/4 ton. FWIW, I am not opposed to going over payload a bit from time to time, but I have a feeling you would be WAY over just from what I have seen of the anemic payload the 1500's have- with a substantial amount of that sitting right on your rear axle. I am over by 3-400 (maybe 500?) with my trailer hitched and that's about as far as I would push that margin comfortably, but it's not all over one axle. Does the big horn trim have a decent payload? I'm not certain- the Laramie I have is around 1000lbs.

 

[toofart]

Get a 2500, or a bigger trailer. I wouldn't do it.

 

[Ramzaq]

Seeing that some fully decked out Rams have a payload of only 950 lbs, it would matter what options you added to it. Every pound of option takes away a pound of payload.

My 2009, 4x4, CC, Big Horn Is fairly well equipped and it has a payload of 1,436 lbs. So if you are careful your idea would probably work.

Rambox, air supension, sun roof, 6.5" bed (I don't have these) can add up, so see what you need and don't need, try to find a knowledgeable salesman and see what would work.

It is the old axiom, you run out of payload before you hit your towing limit.

One other thought, put as much equipment as you can on your trailer to cut down on your payload.

 

[Fromwithin]

Thanks for the info guys. I figured it would be over. Good point about throwing gear in the trailer. Maybe I'll just stick to the trailer and throw one sled in the bed and scrap the idea of a sled deck... I wouldn't be towing that set up enough to justify the expense of a 2500 HD.

 

[TRCM]

Per the owners manual, the payload on mine is 1610.....so you'd be over by a good amount no matter what year it is

 

[hounddog]

Thanks for the info guys. I figured it would be over. Good point about throwing gear in the trailer. Maybe I'll just stick to the trailer and throw one sled in the bed and scrap the idea of a sled deck... I wouldn't be towing that set up enough to justify the expense of a 2500 HD.

If you are looking at the Ecodiesel, I have a hard time believing the cost difference between that and a 2500 5.7l is going to be very wide. I mean, depends on the options and packages of course, but it can't be 'THAT' much more. ??

The 5.7l HEMI in the 2500 would be more than sufficient to pull your sleds, do the bed rack thing or get a 4 place trailer. And, it would do it without much drama at all.

White-knuckling it for several hours just isn't fun or worth it.

 

[Fromwithin]

If you are looking at the Ecodiesel, I have a hard time believing the cost difference between that and a 2500 5.7l is going to be very wide. I mean, depends on the options and packages of course, but it can't be 'THAT' much more. ??

The 5.7l HEMI in the 2500 would be more than sufficient to pull your sleds, do the bed rack thing or get a 4 place trailer. And, it would do it without much drama at all.

White-knuckling it for several hours just isn't fun or worth it.

Good point, however the 2500 weighs more and as a daily driver, there goes the gas mileage down the crapper!

 

[smiley]

Another thing you could do which won't help with legal load is go with coil suspension only and then upgrade the rear coils and put in bags. I am sure it would still sag a little but for a short trip might work. I guess if it were me I would not do it and go with the larger trailer despite being bigger than you like. It is much safer.