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PacketZero

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Hey everyone.
Off-roading is my hobby and I use 2nd gen rams.
I'm no expert but know my way around these trucks and hope to share some of my time and experience with them from over the years.

Here was one of my trucks:



Here's a 97 2500 with a 5.9 that I picked up the other night and has a motor issue the previous owner didn't/wasn't able to correct.




So this thread is for building/fixing the 5.9 in the white dodge.
Figured I'd take everyone along for the ride and input.

Symptoms:
Engine Codes P0300, P0305
Loss of power
Flashing CEL under Load, Ex: Going up inclines, when the TCC locks
Cylinder #5 spark plug is wet with oil
Fluid Quality - Oil, tranny, coolant all look/smell good

Previous owner tried:
Spark Plugs, Wires, Cap, Coil, Injector, injector o-ring.


My turn:

Dry compression test:
This was done not per TSB, just to get an initial idea.
Number is the steady compression, not first crank. Approx 5th crank.

Cylinder - PSI

8 - 170
6 - 120
4 - 150
2 - 150

7 - 130
5 - 90
3 - 120
1 - 135


...:puke:



The plenum is typical for its year, wet on bottom of intake but not pooled.
Wires aren't routed correctly for the year and TSB


Deciding between getting an intake or plenum kit and going to re-route the spark wires correctly and mopar combustion cleaner.
Thinking going to need to pull the heads that this is going to need a full teardown. I've seen where the blow plenum puts oil into combustion, builds deposits, lowers compression. But thinking this is more than gaskets and combustion clean.
 
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PacketZero

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Computer Log:
1997 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 Z = 5.9

Record Data

FRAME: 1 TM: 4.0

ABSLT TPS(%) 13.7
CALC LOAD(%) 4.3
COOLANT(°F) 198
ENG SPEED(RPM) 622
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD
FUEL SYS 2 N/A
IAT(°F) 108
IGN ADV(°) 32.0
LT FTRM1(%) 17.2
MAP("HG) 16.2
MIL STATUS On
O2S11(V) 0.440
O2S12(V) 0.100
OBD2 STAT CA
PTO STATUS Dise
ST FTRM11(%) 2.3
ST FTRM1(%) 2.3
VEH SPEED(MPH) 6


FRAME: 2 TM: 8.0

ABSLT TPS(%) 24.3
CALC LOAD(%) 17.3
COOLANT(°F) 198
ENG SPEED(RPM) 1580
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD
FUEL SYS 2 N/A
IAT(°F) 104
IGN ADV(°) 32.0
LT FTRM1(%) 17.2
MAP("HG) 19.2
MIL STATUS On
O2S11(V) 0.920
O2S12(V) 0.040
OBD2 STAT CA
PTO STATUS Dise
ST FTRM11(%) 0.0
ST FTRM1(%) -4.7
VEH SPEED(MPH) 14


FRAME: 3 TM: 12.0

ABSLT TPS(%) 27.1
CALC LOAD(%) 22.7
COOLANT(°F) 198
ENG SPEED(RPM) 1966
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD
FUEL SYS 2 N/A
IAT(°F) 100
IGN ADV(°) 32.0
LT FTRM1(%) 15.6
MAP("HG) 19.5
MIL STATUS On
O2S11(V) 0.840
O2S12(V) 0.020
OBD2 STAT CA
PTO STATUS Dise
ST FTRM11(%) -3.1
ST FTRM1(%) -1.6
VEH SPEED(MPH) 18



FRAME: 4 TM: 16.0

ABSLT TPS(%) 27.5
CALC LOAD(%) 22.7
COOLANT(°F) 198
ENG SPEED(RPM) 1789
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD
FUEL SYS 2 N/A
IAT(°F) 99
IGN ADV(°) 28.0
LT FTRM1(%) 17.2
MAP("HG) 22.1
MIL STATUS On
O2S11(V) 0.880
O2S12(V) 0.040
OBD2 STAT CA
PTO STATUS Dise
ST FTRM11(%) -2.3
ST FTRM1(%) -2.3
VEH SPEED(MPH) 22


FRAME: 5 TM: 20.0

ABSLT TPS(%) 31.0
CALC LOAD(%) 30.2
COOLANT(°F) 196
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2111
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD
FUEL SYS 2 N/A
IAT(°F) 95
IGN ADV(°) 28.0
LT FTRM1(%) 15.6
MAP("HG) 22.7
MIL STATUS On
O2S11(V) 0.880
O2S12(V) 0.520
OBD2 STAT CA
PTO STATUS Dise
ST FTRM11(%) 1.6
ST FTRM1(%) -2.3
VEH SPEED(MPH) 27


FRAME: 6 TM: 24.0

ABSLT TPS(%) 31.8
CALC LOAD(%) 32.2
COOLANT(°F) 192
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2176
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD
FUEL SYS 2 N/A
IAT(°F) 95
IGN ADV(°) 26.0
LT FTRM1(%) 16.4
MAP("HG) 23.6
MIL STATUS On
O2S11(V) 0.800
O2S12(V) 0.580
OBD2 STAT CA
PTO STATUS Dise
ST FTRM11(%) -3.9
ST FTRM1(%) -3.1
VEH SPEED(MPH) 25


FRAME: 7 TM: 28.0

ABSLT TPS(%) 33.3
CALC LOAD(%) 34.5
COOLANT(°F) 190
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2198
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD
FUEL SYS 2 N/A
IAT(°F) 93
IGN ADV(°) 25.5
LT FTRM1(%) 14.8
MAP("HG) 24.2
MIL STATUS On
O2S11(V) 0.740
O2S12(V) 0.340
OBD2 STAT CA
PTO STATUS Dise
ST FTRM11(%) -2.3
ST FTRM1(%) -3.1
VEH SPEED(MPH) 24


FRAME: 8 TM: 32.0

ABSLT TPS(%) 33.3
CALC LOAD(%) 34.1
COOLANT(°F) 189
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2182
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD
FUEL SYS 2 N/A
IAT(°F) 91
IGN ADV(°) 25.5
LT FTRM1(%) 14.8
MAP("HG) 24.2
MIL STATUS On
O2S11(V) 0.860
O2S12(V) 0.720
OBD2 STAT CA
PTO STATUS Dise
ST FTRM11(%) -3.9
ST FTRM1(%) 0.8
VEH SPEED(MPH) 24



FRAME: 9 TM: 35.9

ABSLT TPS(%) 32.9
CALC LOAD(%) 33.7
COOLANT(°F) 189
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2179
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD
FUEL SYS 2 N/A
IAT(°F) 91
IGN ADV(°) 26.5
LT FTRM1(%) 14.1
MAP("HG) 23.6
MIL STATUS On
O2S11(V) 0.440
O2S12(V) 0.660
OBD2 STAT CA
PTO STATUS Dise
ST FTRM11(%) -1.6
ST FTRM1(%) -3.1
VEH SPEED(MPH) 27


FRAME: 10 TM: 39.9

ABSLT TPS(%) 13.7
CALC LOAD(%) 7.5
COOLANT(°F) 187
ENG SPEED(RPM) 1367
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD
FUEL SYS 2 N/A
IAT(°F) 91
IGN ADV(°) 18.0
LT FTRM1(%) 19.5
MAP("HG) 15.9
MIL STATUS On
O2S11(V) 0.920
O2S12(V) 0.720
OBD2 STAT CA
PTO STATUS Dise
ST FTRM11(%) -2.3
ST FTRM1(%) 3.9
VEH SPEED(MPH) 26



FRAME: 11 TM: 43.9

ABSLT TPS(%) 36.5
CALC LOAD(%) 38.0
COOLANT(°F) 189
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2334
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD
FUEL SYS 2 N/A
IAT(°F) 91
IGN ADV(°) 27.0
LT FTRM1(%) 14.1
MAP("HG) 22.4
MIL STATUS On
O2S11(V) 0.460
O2S12(V) 0.680
OBD2 STAT CA
PTO STATUS Dise
ST FTRM11(%) -1.6
ST FTRM1(%) -0.8
VEH SPEED(MPH) 32


FRAME: 12 TM: 47.9

ABSLT TPS(%) 20.4
CALC LOAD(%) 10.2
COOLANT(°F) 187
ENG SPEED(RPM) 1435
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD
FUEL SYS 2 N/A
IAT(°F) 91
IGN ADV(°) 16.0
LT FTRM1(%) 3.1
MAP("HG) 8.3
MIL STATUS On
O2S11(V) 0.080
O2S12(V) 0.060
OBD2 STAT CA
PTO STATUS Dise
ST FTRM11(%) -4.7
ST FTRM1(%) -3.9
VEH SPEED(MPH) 22



FRAME: 13 TM: 51.9

ABSLT TPS(%) 13.7
CALC LOAD(%) 6.3
COOLANT(°F) 189
ENG SPEED(RPM) 1031
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD
FUEL SYS 2 N/A
IAT(°F) 97
IGN ADV(°) 22.5
LT FTRM1(%) 17.2
MAP("HG) 25.4
MIL STATUS On
O2S11(V) 0.840
O2S12(V) 0.680
OBD2 STAT CA
PTO STATUS Dise
ST FTRM11(%) -2.3
ST FTRM1(%) 3.1
VEH SPEED(MPH) 21



FRAME: 14 TM: 55.9

ABSLT TPS(%) 63.5
CALC LOAD(%) 41.6
COOLANT(°F) 189
ENG SPEED(RPM) 2923
FUEL SYS 1 OPEN1
FUEL SYS 2 N/A
IAT(°F) 91
IGN ADV(°) 18.0
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
MAP("HG) 27.8
MIL STATUS On
O2S11(V) 0.960
O2S12(V) 0.840
OBD2 STAT CA
PTO STATUS Dise
ST FTRM11(%) -2.3
ST FTRM1(%) -3.9
VEH SPEED(MPH) 28



FRAME: 15 TM: 59.9

ABSLT TPS(%) 13.7
CALC LOAD(%) 6.7
COOLANT(°F) 189
ENG SPEED(RPM) 1256
FUEL SYS 1 CLSD
FUEL SYS 2 N/A
IAT(°F) 90
IGN ADV(°) 28.0
LT FTRM1(%) 10.9
MAP("HG) 15.7
MIL STATUS On
O2S11(V) 0.900
O2S12(V) 0.740
OBD2 STAT CA
PTO STATUS Dise
ST FTRM11(%) 0.0
ST FTRM1(%) 0.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 29



FRAME: 16 TM: 63.9

ABSLT TPS(%) 20.0
CALC LOAD(%) 13.7
COOLANT(°F) 189
ENG SPEED(RPM) 1520
FUEL SYS 1 N/A
FUEL SYS 2 N/A
IAT(°F) 93
IGN ADV(°) 38.0
LT FTRM1(%) 0.0
MAP("HG) 10.0
MIL STATUS On
O2S11(V) 0.500
O2S12(V) 0.080
OBD2 STAT CA
PTO STATUS Dise
ST FTRM11(%) 0.0
ST FTRM1(%) 0.0
VEH SPEED(MPH) 27
 

dapepper9

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Chances are good that it's related to heads and cracking or valve seals. Personally, with the oily-ness I'd be more apt to think valve seals.
 

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low 90 high 170 the motor needs a rebuild.
 

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A vacuum gauge would pinpoint the problem and take all the guessing out of the equation ( if you know how to read one proper)
 

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With those numbers vac gauge is a waste of time and energy.
 
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This weekend I will do a wet test and update


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