Synthetic Oil

[crackerjack1957]

It would appear that Amsoil XL might be better than SS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjboMOK43OY&t=1786s

I was thinking about using PUP 0W40 on my 5.7. But seeing that it gives it a slight tick on startup, nope, that is not for me. Its one of the reasons I'm trying to avoid Mobil1 0W40; even though the tick is just on initial start after an oil change and it makes the engine idle so smooth, dare I say it, arguably may be quieter than Redline.

How can you say a new oil has a tick on initial start-up after oil change when it's in the pan & hopefully filter?
Am I missing something here?
Or are you priming before starting?
Maybe same oil prior to last change.

 

[JHoward]

One thing I have noticed with my Ram (5.7) is if I park it on an angle, that is when it'll tick. So when I do park it nose down, I give it full throttle and crank it, ECU stops it from starting. Crank it for about 3-5sec, and then stop cranking, then start it normally. No tick.

I had done that occasionally.

But, I've also found out by adding an 1/2 quart more of oil also is good and nothing is leaking due to blown gaskets, foaming, etc. No start up engine drive train "clacky" anymore, smooth and quiet now.

 

[JHoward]

Have you tried running 1/2 a quart extra? It completely solved that problem for me. No foam/bubbles on the dip stick either

I've also added 1/2 quart more of oil on the last two oci and also, no problems.

 

[Burla]

With the larger filter which is OEM for my 2010, I have been adding 8 quarts for just about 15 years with no issue. I can safely say I'd rather be at the upper limit then short with these 5.7's. Never seen any foam at startup, if I did I would take some oil out.

 

[fitteenhundred]

Here is some more info to digest.
Too bad he didn't include Lubegard.

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Additives, some people swear by them. Others swear at them, so who's right? As a Certified Lubrication Specialist, I reveal the TRUTH about both Fuel and Mot...

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[Burla]

Here is some more info to digest.
Too bad he didn't include Lubegard.

If You LOVE One Of These, DON'T Watch This Video!

Additives, some people swear by them. Others swear at them, so who's right? As a Certified Lubrication Specialist, I reveal the TRUTH about both Fuel and Mot...

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good post, he likey PEA additives like si-1...

wow on Lucas, it is worst then we thought fellas.

About biotech, it has been proven to end hemi tick in many vehicles, so that is something that is gonna trump high wear. But we have enough proven samples that nothing applies to what he was saying with lubeguard and shelf oils. But your post was very information, and we use the same science as him, so I bet he cherry picked every bad additive to make a strong point, which I like a lot. In general people should be skeptical.

 

[Burla]

He makes some good points that I have been saying all along about mixing ester products near the end of his 25 minute mark.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Nope.

none. Zero

Redline 5w30 started just as quite as Amsoil SS 0W40.

I wouldn't run it with any other 5w30 tho. Not in my 6.4. She can be a picky girl.

Long, long time ago, we found out on this thread that the 6.4 was actually tested with 5w30 in it. The 0w40 call out, specifically PUP, was a plug for their friends at shell.

And the Hellcat motor in cars. They just no-brained the truck motor without a thought.

5W-30 is the bomb for truck motors. 0W-30 in nordic winters, 5W-40 for desert summers and/or heavy tow hauling.

 

[HEMIMANN]

holy hell

But those dummies should be getting their news from this forum instead of whatever focus group they spending money, we been on this for years now. Ford made it through many scary times, but their buying into EV policy is gonna sink their ship, and many ships, who knows maybe us going down this really mis guided path is gonna sink us all.

No worries - Ford CEO fixing his error by moving plants to Mexico and blaming on UAW contract.

It's all good.

 

[HEMIMANN]

I've also added 1/2 quart more of oil on the last two oci and also, no problems.

yup - it's the % of oil over or under nominal fill you got to worry about. An extra 1/2 quart to a Harley motor sump pukes oil or burns up the air-cooled motor. (Harley's have 5 quart sumps, btw, large for only a 2 jug engine)

But a regular 8 cylinder truck engine with 7 quart sump? ppfffttt

 

[fitteenhundred]

Speaking of Fords. Ouch.

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[Burla]

Speaking of Fords. Ouch.

POLICE ENGINE BRUTALITY! '21 Explorer Cop Car 3.3L V6 Engine Destroyed By "Pursuit Mode" TEARDOWN!

To purchase parts go to www.Importapart.com or email us at [email protected] Today's teardown is a banger! What I mean is, when it blew up, banging was o...

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I like that guys video's, very informational.

 

[knightjp]

How can you say a new oil has a tick on initial start-up after oil change when it's in the pan & hopefully filter?
Am I missing something here?
Or are you priming before starting?
Maybe same oil prior to last change.

I'm not sure. The engine ticks for 2 - 3 seconds on the initial start up right after the oil change. We put in good oil into the new filter when putting it in. I use the large Mopar filter because that is the only one available to me here in Dubai.
The oil was Mobil 1 FS 0w40. For you guys in the US, Mobil calls it, Mobil 1™ FS 0W-40 European Car Formula (North America)

The next oil change I used Liquimoly Molygen 5w30. It didn't do the tick on initial startup. However didn't sound as smooth on hot-idle as Mobil1 did.

 

[Sherman Bird]

Everyone has to have the newest and "greatest". Have to keep up with the Jones's.

Wife:"honey did you see the neighbors got a nice new suv? I sure wish we could get a new car." Husband "we don't need a new car yours works perfectly fine." One week later they're at the dealership picking out a new car.

Kind of along the same line but I'm glad my wife and I don't have very many friends. Every time one of them p-e-c-k-e-r heads would have a baby and the wife got to see the new baby. First thing she would say when she'd get home is we should have a baby. Luckily I escaped with only 2.

My late wife's family were from eastern Ohio / West Virginia. Her mother was raised on a farm where there were 13 children! The Grandfather had been married before (that wife died) and had 4 kids, to a total of 17 children with no twins! As I was told, the reason for so many kids was to help on the farm.... Personally, I think the TV was broken!

 

[crackerjack1957]

I'm not sure. The engine ticks for 2 - 3 seconds on the initial start up right after the oil change. We put in good oil into the new filter when putting it in. I use the large Mopar filter because that is the only one available to me here in Dubai.
The oil was Mobil 1 FS 0w40. For you guys in the US, Mobil calls it, Mobil 1™ FS 0W-40 European Car Formula (North America)

The next oil change I used Liquimoly Molygen 5w30. It didn't do the tick on initial startup. However didn't sound as smooth on hot-idle as Mobil1 did.

What I'm saying is unless the same oil was in before oil change how can the fresh oil change be a cause of initial start up tick if its not on the moving parts.
Maybe your oil drain period lasted longer causing more bleed off of lifters & pump.

 

[ramffml]

I'm not sure. The engine ticks for 2 - 3 seconds on the initial start up right after the oil change. We put in good oil into the new filter when putting it in. I use the large Mopar filter because that is the only one available to me here in Dubai.
The oil was Mobil 1 FS 0w40. For you guys in the US, Mobil calls it, Mobil 1™ FS 0W-40 European Car Formula (North America)

The next oil change I used Liquimoly Molygen 5w30. It didn't do the tick on initial startup. However didn't sound as smooth on hot-idle as Mobil1 did.

I'd be using Mobil 1 FS 0w-40 over LM especially in your climate. Dave from HPL has called that oil "too good for the money" or something to that effect, so in other words an excellent competitor is speaking pretty highly of it which is a great sign.

To prevent the truck from rattling after changing your oil, just use the "flood mode"; put the pedal to the floor and hang onto it, tap the brake and turn the engine on while hanging onto the gas; the truck will just spin over but not fire up as it doesn't give it gas in this mode. Wait for about 10 seconds, then turn your engine off to stop the cranking.

Then just start your truck as normal.

Ever since that feature was posted here I've used it every oil change and never had any bad rattles after an oil change regardless of oil or filter, including the one time I used mobil 1 0w-40.

 

[Hemi395]

Here is some more info to digest.
Too bad he didn't include Lubegard.

If You LOVE One Of These, DON'T Watch This Video!

Additives, some people swear by them. Others swear at them, so who's right? As a Certified Lubrication Specialist, I reveal the TRUTH about both Fuel and Mot...

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Wow this really makes me not want to use oil additives

 

[RodRamCar]

Although i have tried Lubegard twice or thrice (can't remember), I just became lazy and didn't want to mix stuff. it's 100% Redline 5w-30 for me year-round since Boise just doesn't really get super duper cold and if 20-820 is out of stock, it's 20-500 as the back up. Additionally, the truck might see 3k to 4k miles a year so i'm into an oil change once every 2 years and I drive the truck once a week at least to make sure it doesn't sit too long.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Although i have tried Lubegard twice or thrice (can't remember), I just became lazy and didn't want to mix stuff. it's 100% Redline 5w-30 for me year-round since Boise just doesn't really get super duper cold and if 20-820 is out of stock, it's 20-500 as the back up. Additionally, the truck might see 3k to 4k miles a year so i'm into an oil change once every 2 years and I drive the truck once a week at least to make sure it doesn't sit too long.

MOPAR advises at least annually due moisture adsorption.

I don't have any data to share that validates their recommendation. This is common for many engine makers, though.
How much is cya vs. needed I have no idea since most people don't run that few miles. Maybe more so today since the pandemic.

 

[RodRamCar]

MOPAR advises at least annually due moisture adsorption.

I don't have any data to share that validates their recommendation. This is common for many engine makers, though.
How much is cya vs. needed I have no idea since most people don't run that few miles. Maybe more so today since the pandemic.

I'd be putting on way more if it wasn't a "as needed" basis. She isn't my daily driver. Thanks for that tidbit of info though. it's cheap insurance.