Marty Z, I hear you about performance and good tread life, but like you, I have never found a tire that did both for off road use. Very rarely is a hard compound tire superior at anything but tread life, whether it is racing slicks, winter tires, mud tires or rock crawlers. I will put up with less tread life to get better performance, whether it is my street vehicle, summer fun ride or the pickup. In the overall life expense of owning a vehicle an extra set or two of tires is not much of a factor.