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That's reasonable but keep in mind, if all the trucks came with LED headlights, then nobody'd be interested in the upper end trucks. Or you just special order a cheaper one with them.
Shoulda planned ahead...lol. My last truck was a QC and I didn't necessarily hate it but I knew right away I wanted that bigger, full-size 4-door, and I don't even have kids, I just like my passengers to be comfortable whenever I have some.
Oh, so, you have... a 2nd gen?
I feel ya on that one. Well, I still don’t understand why the lack of being able to turn the radio off is such an issue when you really can’t, I guess, because it’s not just a radio anymore but I agree on the spare. I would hope that dinky little spare is trustworthy enough to get you to a service station pulling a max weight trailer. But, search the junk yards and try to find you a regular ole steel wheel that’s 20x9 5 on 5.25 bolt pattern and check your local tire shop for a used 275/60/20 tire; or whatever your stock tires is and viola, problem solved.
Who is surprised by this? I knew it from the start or it wouldn't have been a question!
Probably because the hp/torque that the truck 392 makes is all it needs. It’s also a reliability/longevity thing why it doesn’t have what the SRT Charger/Challenger has.
All it needs? They're putting that 6.4 in the 3500 drw and saying it can tow 18,000+lbs. Ford says their 7.3 drw can do 19,000. Ford absolutely smokes the Ram on the Ike gauntlet with 16k in tow. 8+ minutes for the Ford vs 10+ for the 6.4 Ram. This isn't a small thing. Ram needs to up their game big time. I wanted to buy a Ram, but their game is low.
If you knew all of this why was it a question? That's why I knew where this was headed!
I literally have no idea what point you think you're making.
Different price point Ford vs Ram. How much did it cost you to save that two minutes ?
It’s not a contest, man. I betcha that 392 in the Ram will last longer.
First off, why are you so interested in making so much of a big deal about towing with a gas motor? Even with all that emissions crap, if you’re going to be pulling in excess of 17,000 pounds, you’re better off doing that with a diesel. Second, Ram doesn’t need to up their game because we’re only talking a thousand pound difference. Ram doesn’t care about being all big and bad like Phord is when it comes to towing with a gas truck. For those who don’t tow enough to justify the CTD but need more than what a 1500 is capable of, the 392 suits them just fine. Besides, when you’re not towing, the 392 will get better gas mileage if driven respectively. The Phord- about 12 at best. Not only that, Ram has the factory rear air ride so for that plus alone, I’ll take the 392 Ram any day.
I knew the Ram was going to be trashed before you told us your choice, that's why I didn't make any comments or advice. I knew what was going to happen and it did. There's not a point to be made on my part.
You come to a Ram site and ask "Ford or Ram". What would I expect if I went to a Ford site and ask "Ram or Ford"? I wouldn't want to hear their response! It wouldn't be nice as the guys here!
