6.4 vs 6.7

[1500ram12]

That may explain why some may not want to buy one, but that does not explain why the beef? Why did Twilliams feel the need to explain what he sees as negative in the 6.7L after HDperfromance said something positive about it and said nothing negative about the 6.4L. Why did SouthernBoy do the same to Mike_123? You guys already explained why you guys didn't buy what you did so why come back around and day something negative about it right after someone said something positive about.

You don't see me or any other 6.7L owner following up a 6.4L post with nothing but negatives about the 6.4L. Why? Because I don't feel the need to justify my purchase. I don't feel like I have to bash the 6.4L every time I see something posting about it just to make me feel better about buying my 6.7L. I read some 6.4L owner in here saying that people are allowed to state their opinion in here which they are, but why do the 6.7L owners get hassled for stating their opinion multiple times in this thread? Does this "everyone has a right to state their opinion" only extend to 6.4L and most 6.7L posts will get hassled?

I bet if I followed up someone's 6.4L post with what I saw as negative about the 6.4L then this room would be a crap storm, and that would be okay for all the 6.4L guys in this thread. However, if I corrected a few false statements said about the 6.7L then I get chastised for it. Why is that? You guys are going by some double standard where it is okay for a 6.4L guy to say something negative about the 6.7L, but all panties get in a *** when a 6.7L guy even corrects what was falsely said. Hypocritical much?

Like I mentioned before I own a 6.4L and coming from a 6.7L it's taking some time to get use to. I don't personally think it's a towing engine. Right now my average mpg sucks, it's winter and I only drive a few miles a day so it's expected. and I only have 700 miles on it.

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[SouthTexan]

Unlike truckers who are on the road for 8+ hours a day. So yes the dpf system work for the most part.

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This assuming that all truckers are long haul which is not the case. Almost half of Class 7 & 8 trucks are not long haul. They are short trip vehicles like vocational trucks or oil field crude haulers that idle a lot. The SCR system was added for truck uses like these. The EGR/DPF system was fine for those that didn't idle a lot, but his terrible for those that did. The SCR/DEF system aleviates a lot of the stresses that high idle times have on the EGR and DPF system. It does not completely stop it, but it allows you to idle for much longer without any issues.

 

[NewBlackDak]

The sideline watching on this one has been amusing.

I have seen 3-6 yr old 2500/3500s without a single scratch in the bed and no wear on the hitch. Clearly these people could be driving a sedan. They certainly don't need a diesel for what they do. You really don't need it if you're only towing your large travel trailer/5th wheel once a month, and your boat/ATVs/sled a couple more times.

If you have a trailer hitched or 2Klbs in the bed over 75% of your miles, then I would recommend the diesel.

In between those is the grey area. Decide what works best for you, do it, and don't worry about what anyone else thinks.

 

[SouthernBoy]

Also, I thought you deleted your emissions systems?

I did. At the time the truck died the service manager looked me straight in the eye and told me, "This will happen again, and next time it will be on you." That is a direct quote. So when Im sitting at home contemplating wondering when the next time arises Im stranded on the side of the road in Limp Mode, or selling this relatively brand new truck and figuring out how much I would lose flipping it so early, my wife was pretty miffed. So we compared the cost of deleting the truck versus than the amount of money Id lose selling it basically still new. The depreciation felt by owners is upfront and if you buy something and flip it soon you WILL loose money. You see I was adamant I was NOT going to modify the truck and leave it stock, I am 51 and not some kid fresh outta high school wanting to hot-rod my truck or "roll the coal" to impress teenage girls. I needed a RELIABLE truck to use and when necessary tow trailers on the farm. (cattle, horses, hay, tractors, whatever) So after hearing all the 'coal rollers' on diesel forums tell me to quit worrying about it all and delete the thing, I did. I did it all myself, took me all day long, and cost $1750 bucks or so from Rolling Smoke. And yes, that fixed the problems, but I did not like having to break the law and run around driving a illegal pickup to make it reliable. So I made the choice to go back to gas now that they have a bigger gasser available. I grew up with big gassers. I have towed gooseneck trailers full of horses all over the USA in gassers with zero issues since 1981. The 454s, 460s and 440s we had back then did just fine and didnt have the HP and torque the new 6.4 has.

Yet you bought another Chrysler product
In fact another Chrysler product with something new in it
One has to wonder why

Why? Because I am a Mopar guy. Ive been building and racing Mopar engines for decades. I have to correct you on one point: I havent bought anything yet, I ordered a truck, so far its been sitting for WEEKS in 'I' status and if they dont get off high-center and get that truck coming I may end up doing something else. The plant in Saltillo is dragging its ass and there are fellas who have trucks ordered that have been sitting around in 'Inspection' for 5-6 or more weeks and no explanation why or when it will show up. (that is another topic however)

Again SouthTexan, I hear what you are saying but have no interest in a diesel when its 8K more expensive and saddled with all the nonsense. I hope every guy who buys a 6.7 has the best luck ever with theirs.

 

[SouthTexan]

Again SouthTexan, I hear what you are saying but have no interest in a diesel when its 8K more expensive and saddled with all the nonsense. I hope every guy who buys a 6.7 has the best luck ever with theirs.

Then why did you make a negative comment in reference to what Mike_123 said. All he was doing is saying why he like his 6.7L. He said nothing negative about the 6.4L and if you had no interest in the 6.7L diesel then why make the comment that 2as false?

Why can't the 6.7L guys say why the like their engine choice without being told something negative about their choice? If I said something negative about the 6.4L in reference to someone's positive post about it then a lot of you guys would be all over me like white on rice. I am just wondering why the double standard and why would one even make the comment to purposely down what another poster has in the first place.

 

[loveracing1988]

Then why did you make a negative comment in reference to what Mike_123 said. All he was doing is saying why he like his 6.7L. He said nothing negative about the 6.4L and if you had no interest in the 6.7L diesel then why make the comment that 2as false?

Why can't the 6.7L guys say why the like their engine choice without being told something negative about their choice? If I said something negative about the 6.4L in reference to someone's positive post about it then a lot of you guys would be all over me like white on rice. I am just wondering why the double standard and why would one even make the comment to purposely down what another poster has in the first place.

This is coming from the person who started this whole argument and argue with anyone who shares a different view than you.

 

[SouthTexan]

This is coming from the person who started this whole argument and argue with anyone who shares a different view than you.

Okay, I will bite. How did I start this?

 

[KarL45]

Both the 6.4 and the 6.7 have their good and not so good points. Truth, while there are bad points with both, I think they are becoming less and less. Having worked with the Air Force vehicle fleet for 40 years, I got the opportunity to see the good and bad with all of the big 3. A lot of the problems I saw were truthfully attributed to the operators and tasks assigned as much as the vehicle. All have the strong and weak points. The only problem is deciding which is better for your usage. I may, well probably would have, made a couple different choices about my Ram if I would have known about the comparisons on U Tube and such. That said, all have the strong and weak points. Hate to say, on the towing aspect, a test drive doesn't really tell the tale. If that is one or your only purpose for the Ram, suggest you watch the tow comparisons and also check out the different gear selections available. There is a "big" difference in the capabilities and this doesn't only apply to gas or only to Ram trucks.

 

[SouthernBoy]

Then why did you make a negative comment in reference to what Mike_123 said. All he was doing is saying why he like his 6.7L. He said nothing negative about the 6.4L and if you had no interest in the 6.7L diesel then why make the comment that 2as false?

Why can't the 6.7L guys say why the like their engine choice without being told something negative about their choice? If I said something negative about the 6.4L in reference to someone's positive post about it then a lot of you guys would be all over me like white on rice. I am just wondering why the double standard and why would one even make the comment to purposely down what another poster has in the first place.

Dude, Ive been trying to be polite and wrap this up and you just wanna stay on the merry-go-round. Im done with this one.

Peace.

 

[loveracing1988]

Okay, I will bite. How did I start this?

The post you quoted was from the 29th of October, you quoted it in February.

 

[SouthTexan]

The post you quoted was from the 29th of October, you quoted it in February.

How did that post start it? Please explain.

And be sure to reference the post that I was quoting where a 6.4L owner was downing a 6.7L owners engine choice just because he said he thinks his engine choice(a 6.7L) is the best for him.

Basically right now you are saying that it is okay for a 6.4L owner to down other people's engine choice just because that opther person thinks their non-6.4L engine is best for them, but one is "starting crap" if he says anything back to that 6.4L owner. And you don't see the bias double standard there?

 

[Ratket]

anyone have any usefull **** they wanna add to the 6.4 vs 6.7 thread? if not please delete it, I am over posting irrelevant **** on here poking funn at this ***** fest and now prolly like others I am just over coming here to look for new information and seeing yet another useless ******* post on this thread. we got this nice new section and this **** is what we get to look at. Come on

 

[SouthTexan]

Dude, Ive been trying to be polite and wrap this up and you just wanna stay on the merry-go-round. Im done with this one.

Peace.

Again, if you were trying to be polite then why say this.....

"Until Mr. Limp Mode shows up unannounced and you, the wife and kids are on the side of the Interstate with the 5'ver and you watch as your vacation rig get towed off when you are 1000 miles from your house."

...in reference to what Mike_123 said? He said nothing negative about a 6.4L yet you took it upon yourself to bash him and his engine choice. Why?

 

[tjfdesmo]

Give it a rest already.

 

[SouthTexan]

Give it a rest already.

Tell your 6.4L mafia buddy's to quit hounding people just for liking something other than a 6.4L and I will. Easy as that.


If the rest of your 6.4L mafia members would just let other 6.7L owners post why they like their choice without immediately getting blasted back by your 6.4L mafia on how they think the 6.7L sucks then I wouldn't say a word about it. However you guys seem to want to trash the 6.7L (a few times with false information) just about every time someone says something positive about it just to make yourselves feel better about your own choices so here I am. I bet you would be there along with the rest of your mfia members if someone was trashing or spreading false info about the 6.4L so why you jumping my case? Oh wait, its because I am not in the 6.4L mafia.

 

[loveracing1988]

Tell your 6.4L mafia buddy's to quit hounding people just for liking something other than a 6.4L and I will. Easy as that.

Here you go.

 

[tjfdesmo]

Tell your 6.4L mafia buddy's to quit hounding people just for liking something other than a 6.4L and I will. Easy as that.


If the rest of your 6.4L mafia members would just let other 6.7L owners post why they like their choice without immediately getting blasted back by your 6.4L mafia on how they think the 6.7L sucks then I wouldn't say a word about it. However you guys seem to want to trash the 6.7L (a few times with false information) just about every time someone says something positive about it just to make yourselves feel better about your own choices so here I am. I bet you would be there along with the rest of your mfia members if someone was trashing or spreading false info about the 6.4L so why you jumping my case? Oh wait, its because I am not in the 6.4L mafia.

I am not part of any mafia, *******. I bought what suits my current needs. I have not bashed the 6.7 in any fashion. I have owned a Cummins and would gladly do so again. I am neither a sheep, nor a follower. I make my own decisions, like the decision to not attempt any further discussion with the likes of you.

 

[SouthTexan]

I am not part of any mafia, *******. I bought what suits my current needs. I have not bashed the 6.7 in any fashion. I have owned a Cummins and would gladly do so again. I am neither a sheep, nor a follower. I make my own decisions, like the decision to not attempt any further discussion with the likes of you.

Thanks for saying I am number one.

Cute meme, but I am not telling people to respect me. I am just merely telling your 6.4L mafia members to stop disrespecting other peoples choices by blasting a 6.7L member everytime they say something positive about their engine choice. That doesn't seem like a hard thing to do, but I guess it is for some who like to go out of their way to **** in people Cheerios to disrespect them like some of your 6.4L mafia members. I am just returning the favor and fixing some false statements.


Go ahead, look through this thread and tell many how many times a 6.4L owner trashed the 6.7L or blasted a 6.7L owner just for saying something positive about his engine.

Now go back and count how many times a 6.7L owner trashed the 6.4L or blasted a 6.4L owner for saying something positive about his engine choice....... Now do you see what I am talking about.

 

[428 Cobra Jet]

I really like both of these motors, and I appreciate the input as I believe I have read most of the 6.4 threads three times. The 6.4 is all I would have needed, but I wanted the diesel. I have wanted a Cummins for a long time but couldn't justify it. I finally got to the point where my justification was that it was what I wanted. Not what I needed. I rarely pull my trailers, I just wanted the Cummins. I have to say I love it. My EVIC mileage through 450+ miles has been about 20. Get what you want, don't down what someone else has, but buy what is going to make you happy.

 

[RAMYOU]

if u start comparing these two engines, you will start a never ending cycle of debate. So just dont. They're both excellent engines for what they are each designed for.