Another header question... Y-pipe..?

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I thought that the truck needed both the front O2's to get it to run right... I know the 03's (or at least some of them) only have 1 cat but dont you still have two front O2 sensors? The pacesetters only have 1 **** on each of the collector so both the front O2's need to go in there if your truck has 2 front O2's and then the rear would need a **** welded in since the front O2's are the important ones while the rear O2's are more for checking on the cats. Now I can only go off of my 05' which has 2 cats in there with an O2 before and after them but it might be something to crawl under the truck and check first hand.
 

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you're absolutely right truckin. my comment/suggestion was only for the 03 with one cat. there are only 2 o2's (a front and rear). its actually the 02 exhaust that has 1 cat. some early 03's got the remaining inventory of 02 exhaust. some late model 03's have 2 cats in which case they follow the same rules as all the other years (what truckin said)
 
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i only got one cat- right after the Y (if thats what you wanna call it)
so i would only need an anti fowler for the rear o2 sensor right?
 

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cheapbeater, doesn't your '03 only have 1 cat? I thought I read that 03s only have 1. If that is the case, get the pacesetter Y and put a Magnaflow cat after it. If you have 2 cats, disregard.

That is what I did on mine. I also moved everything toward the rear as far as I could in preparation to run LT and Y pipe. OBTW, the OEM single cat on the 03 outflows the Magnaflow "High-Flow" cat.

Update: The Magnaflow "Hi-Flow" cat has two o2 bungs already welded in the housing.
I have the front o2 screwed into a **** I welded at the header and a wide band sensor screwed into the front Cat **** and the rear o2 screwed into the rear cat ****. No anti-foulers used and no DTC's.
 
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That is what I did on mine. I also moved everything toward the rear as far as I could to run LT and Y pipe. OBTW, the OEM single cat on the 03 outflows the Magnaflow "High-Flow" cat.

Update: The Magnaflow "Hi-Flow" cat has two o2 bungs already welded in the housing.
I have the front o2 screwed into a **** I welded at the header and a wide band sensor screwed into the front Cat **** and the rear o2 screwed into the rear cat ****. No anti-foulers used and no DTC's.

I didn't think you had LT's on Ol' Red....
 
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do you guys think i will be ok with just ceramic coated headers? not stainless, just ceramic.. unless they are stainless and it just doesnt say...
 

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If you are looking at the pacesetters, they are not stainless. Ceramic will last a while, but will eventually rust. If you want them to last forever, get stainless (dynatech, tti, or kooks) and get them ceramic coated.
 

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Go ceramic and you should be fine. I have not heard of anyone having issues with rusting with the ceramic coated ones unless there was a chip in coating
 
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good to know. thanks everyone. there will be a header install thread up in a few weeks if everything goes well...
 

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I didn't think you had LT's on Ol' Red....

My bad, that did sound like I have LT's on it. What I meant was in preparation for LT's I have moved everything rearward. This started with the Magafolw Mufffler and exhaust when I did the roll pan. The muffler was moved as far back as possible with the Mag Hi-Flow cat just in front of the muffler and then a new 3" pipe running to the current OEM Y pipe. I have a new **** on the Y pipe which is the front o2 and the rear o2 is connected to the rear **** on the cat and the **** on the front of the cat is for the wide band. Cat is just above the cross member which should give me room for the LT's and Y pipe. When i did this I replaced the OEM cat with the Magnaflow Hi-Flow cat and lost a couple of tenths on the 0-60 time. When I install the LT's and Y pipe I will re-install the OEM cat. I do not have LT's on Red.
 

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