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This question may been asked is there a open spot in the tipm to get power to the cb or is best to run straight to the battery. I know the clutch block off plate on the firewall is a good spot to run the wires.As I don’t want to fry my truck wires

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This question may been asked is there a open spot in the tipm to get power to the cb or is best to run straight to the battery. I know the clutch block off plate on the firewall is a good spot to run the wires.As I don’t want to fry my truck wires

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Two options, find a constant 12v plug or wire straight to the battery.

Without a noise filter you will get hum off the alternator.


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Most purists say you need off battery. I am going to run taps off the battery to an SAE plug in the block off plate and an extension to my radio. Everything unplugs. Waterproof and can easily come out!

What is your setup? I am gathering pieces to do my instal. Going to do a 10/11 meter under my seat.


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I tapped into a constant 12v wire I found and installed a noise filter to eliminate the hum when the truck is running. Works great for my Dual Band Han Radio.

Is your CB modified to run on 10m?


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Opposite.

It was a gift. I'm extremely new to the hobby. Studying nights for my tech test in June.

Radio is Stryker 89mc


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I'm honestly not trying to sound like a ****, but there are all kinds of issues with your radio. That Stryker SR-89MC 10 Meter Radio you're looking at is basically an illegal CB radio sold as a ham radio. It only transmits on AM and FM and there is hardly any AM used on 10 meters. When you get your Tech license, you aren't allowed to use FM in 10 meters. Basically you're not going to get much use of the radio in the Amateur Radio Service. I also checked the FCC website and there is not a single Stryker radio listed as being Type Accepted which means you cannot legally use it in the CB radio band. All kinds of issues...

It has been said in many forums across the interwebs, "Who cares, the FCC doesn't enforce the rules anymore". While that may be kinda sorta partially true, one thing the FCC -WILL- do if you do happen to be caught using a radio in a wrong band/service is to A) fine you, and B) pull ALL of your licenses. That means you get to pay big bucks (fines typically start at $7000) for using an "amateur radio" in the CB service AND you lose that nice Technician Amateur Radio license you just worked hard to get. My career requires me to hold a number of FCC licenses. I keep track of things that could cause me to lose them!

Could you get away with it? Maybe, possibly, even probably. But if you get tapped on the shoulder by Uncle Charlie, it's gonna hurt. Really, not worth the risk and trouble.

Now that all the doom and gloom is said, to answer your original question (for when you get a legit radio! LOL), I would suggest simply running the power directly from the battery through the clutch plate (along with your antenna lead). Stop by a truck stop and get a CB radio power filter to clean up the alternator noise. Plug everything in, give a little prayer, and fire it up.

As a comparison to an over-designed and over-built setup, I am running all of my vehicle's radio gear straight from the battery, through a 100-amp "main" breaker to #6 red/black "zip cord" to behind the back seat where it hits a car stereo filter. From there to a marine-style fuse block which then feeds the radios. A 2000 watt power inverter (the reason for the #6 cable) comes off the terminals before the filter. I am running a CB radio, HF Amateur radio, dual-band UHF/VHF Amateur radio, business-band radio with 70cm/FRS/GMRS mods, and a charging pocket for a business-band walkie talkie also 70cm/FRS/GMRS modded. All of the radios are remote head with the "radio" being behind the back seat, the control heads under the dash, the walkie talkie charging pocket is under the dash. The only "iffy" thing I'm doing is using FRS on a business-band radio. I have just been very careful to keep the power limits legal and will beg forgiveness regarding external antennas not being allowed in the FR Service. I use FRS so very little anymore that it almost is a moot point. Talking to my grand daughter on her Hello Kitty walkie talkie is about it! LOL

Good luck with your Technician license, upgrade to General and/or Extra as soon as you can, and enjoy the world of radio!

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I'm honestly not trying to sound like a ****, but there are all kinds of issues with your radio. That Stryker SR-89MC 10 Meter Radio you're looking at is basically an illegal CB radio sold as a ham radio. It only transmits on AM and FM and there is hardly any AM used on 10 meters. When you get your Tech license, you aren't allowed to use FM in 10 meters. Basically you're not going to get much use of the radio in the Amateur Radio Service. I also checked the FCC website and there is not a single Stryker radio listed as being Type Accepted which means you cannot legally use it in the CB radio band. All kinds of issues...

It has been said in many forums across the interwebs, "Who cares, the FCC doesn't enforce the rules anymore". While that may be kinda sorta partially true, one thing the FCC -WILL- do if you do happen to be caught using a radio in a wrong band/service is to A) fine you, and B) pull ALL of your licenses. That means you get to pay big bucks (fines typically start at $7000) for using an "amateur radio" in the CB service AND you lose that nice Technician Amateur Radio license you just worked hard to get. My career requires me to hold a number of FCC licenses. I keep track of things that could cause me to lose them!

Could you get away with it? Maybe, possibly, even probably. But if you get tapped on the shoulder by Uncle Charlie, it's gonna hurt. Really, not worth the risk and trouble.

Now that all the doom and gloom is said, to answer your original question (for when you get a legit radio! LOL), I would suggest simply running the power directly from the battery through the clutch plate (along with your antenna lead). Stop by a truck stop and get a CB radio power filter to clean up the alternator noise. Plug everything in, give a little prayer, and fire it up.

As a comparison to an over-designed and over-built setup, I am running all of my vehicle's radio gear straight from the battery, through a 100-amp "main" breaker to #6 red/black "zip cord" to behind the back seat where it hits a car stereo filter. From there to a marine-style fuse block which then feeds the radios. A 2000 watt power inverter (the reason for the #6 cable) comes off the terminals before the filter. I am running a CB radio, HF Amateur radio, dual-band UHF/VHF Amateur radio, business-band radio with 70cm/FRS/GMRS mods, and a charging pocket for a business-band walkie talkie also 70cm/FRS/GMRS modded. All of the radios are remote head with the "radio" being behind the back seat, the control heads under the dash, the walkie talkie charging pocket is under the dash. The only "iffy" thing I'm doing is using FRS on a business-band radio. I have just been very careful to keep the power limits legal and will beg forgiveness regarding external antennas not being allowed in the FR Service. I use FRS so very little anymore that it almost is a moot point. Talking to my grand daughter on her Hello Kitty walkie talkie is about it! LOL

Good luck with your Technician license, upgrade to General and/or Extra as soon as you can, and enjoy the world of radio!

73 de Paul, KC4YDY

I will certainly be doing research to verify your input. But I am willing to say that I am an amateur to this and will take faith in your detailed warning unless I find otherwise.

I follow rules and obey principles as a way of life and will not be welcoming unnecessarily hardship for myself. I thank you for your warning sir. This radio was a hand me down and I loved the capability of keeping the main box tucked away. My old cobra 19nw is massive and I hate to make my first new truck cumbersome or have to drill and mount holes.

I would love to see your extensive setup any threads ?
 

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@PualTGarrett I wanna see some pics of that! If I was running more than my dual banded I would definitely do what you have.

I’m increasing my set up 10 fold and will be adding a 2nd battery with an isolator and charge relay to supply my power, with some 0/1 wire to feed it all.

He is 100% right about encroaching in any band without licensing or approved equipment. They (FCC) is starting to crack down on guys jumping into the amateur bands.

Show us those pics!

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@PualTGarrett I wanna see some pics of that! If I was running more than my dual banded I would definitely do what you have.

I’m increasing my set up 10 fold and will be adding a 2nd battery with an isolator and charge relay to supply my power, with some 0/1 wire to feed it all.

He is 100% right about encroaching in any band without licensing or approved equipment. They (FCC) is starting to crack down on guys jumping into the amateur bands.

Show us those pics!

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Well you need to post some pics as well!

Yeah I understand rules are rules and I intend to dive into this hobby with all the correct intentions and privileges.


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Thank you for sharing. Like the simplicity of that unit.

So you drilled a hole in the roof huh?!


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Yep sure did. LoL I drilled 15 holes in my 1/2 tons roof, so I figured one big one wouldn’t hurt. Do it right and no leaks.


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I currently have everything out of the truck since I sold my '98 RAM and bought the '12... The setup I described was in the '98 and will soon go into the '12 as soon as I get some time off work. I WILL take pics of the entire installation project as I start it up. I have to do the rear seat folding mod first, that may happen this weekend since I'm having to "work from home" a few days this week.

I plan on putting the dual-band antenna and CB antenna on each side of my across-the-rail tool box and the business-band on a roof-mount NMO base that was on the truck when I bought it. My Yaesu ATAS antenna is going on the front grill guard, like they mount them on Aussie and NATO vehicles. I have looked at a NATO style antenna with a tuner built into it (not a screwdriver style) but holy crap are the expensive. Mil-spec, bullet proof, but cha ching!! https://codancomms.com/products/9350-automatic-tuning-whip

I know what you mean about having a monster CB radio under the dash! I have a Cobra 148GTL SSB CB radio that I would love to put into the truck but it just will not fit. Big beautiful radio but just no longer friendly under today's cramped dashboards and I can't honestly say I can remember the last time I used SSB on a CB radio. I'm going to mount that "classic" radio in my classic '75 Bronco. It just seems like the natural place for it!

https://www.rightchannelradios.com/products/cobra-148-gtl-classic-cb-radio


 

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