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I am meticulous about keeping my service information up to date. I always make sure all service and self service is updated on mopar.com. Since I'm at the office and the trucks at home I thought I would check to see if it was time for a tire rotation before I head to New Orleans.

Everything is gone. My trucks there with 0 miles. None of the history is there from anything. There's a popup for a number you can call if there's an issue and it just takes me in a rotation and I get no-one. It feels like the entire company is swirling in a toilet headed down the drain.

Even the most simple of things is a mess. %0 confidence in any part of it anymore and that makes me so mad. A arrogant rich man and an out of touch group of rich board members and shareholders have all but destroyed something great without any personal repercussions.
 
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OR.... maybe it's a computer glitch and will be restored soon? :) There are backups to servers, and backups to the backups. Give it a few days and try it again.

I'd lean on that before going to the theory that they've abandoned all hope.
 

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I'm old, I don't trust technology :)I keep a book in all my vehicles where I record anything done to them since the day, they were new. Even my 64 Ford F100 has a record in it since day one. They are very helpful especially when a part that was replaced by myself or a dealer has a lifetime warranty I can go back and find the exact date and mileage that the work was done.
 

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OR.... maybe it's a computer glitch and will be restored soon? :) There are backups to servers, and backups to the backups. Give it a few days and try it again.

I'd lean on that before going to the theory that they've abandoned all hope.
I have a new bag of popping corn! ;)
 

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I'm old, I don't trust technology :)I keep a book in all my vehicles where I record anything done to them since the day, they were new. Even my 64 Ford F100 has a record in it since day one. They are very helpful especially when a part that was replaced by myself or a dealer has a lifetime warranty I can go back and find the exact date and mileage that the work was done.

I do the same - and have file folders in a cabinet where I keep all receipts and any papers related to the vehicle.
 

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I'm old, I don't trust technology :)I keep a book in all my vehicles where I record anything done to them since the day, they were new.

Same.

I write a 'cheat sheet' on the inside of the cover as well with common part numbers (oil filter, air filter, spark plugs, etc), oil weight and capacity, and wrench sizes (oil pan drain). Keeps me from having to constantly relook stuff up or crawl under the truck/car with a hand full of wrenches/sockets.
 

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I managed to get someone on the phone today. She said the mopar.com website information is fed from data in a system the DEALERSHIP controls and suggested I call the last dealership I used. THAT would be the dealership that was an absolute nightmare. That's also the dealership that put the wrong mileage on the paperwork and I didn't notice it until later because of the argument with the service rep at pickup. I thought the 28 must have been a number code since my truck had 93k something miles. It was beyond bad.

When I mentioned it to her and said I had to reach out to that dealership corporate to get the mileage updated on the service ticket. She asked more details and if I had records. I said, "Not only do I have records on paper, I have a voicemail from a guy named George that SAID he corrected the mileage and the Carfax info". Then I said "Thank god all that information was there when the cams and rockers needed replacement or the warranty company probably wouldn't have covered it. Because now it looks like I've not ever changed so much as the oil". To that she replied "If you left them a bad review, you may already have your answer. Do you have warranty left that might want to verify a service history before they cover anything else if it were to happen"?

I think that was in fact the intention... to cause problems for me if anything else happens. Only 3200 miles left till 100k and the warranty is up. If nothing happens, fine. If it does, I am still well documented and have records for days.
Do not forget that the ECM in modern OBD2 vehicles is like a black box on an aircraft. The CORRECT mileage at the time of the issue at hand is recorded therein, AND time stamped. They (the manufacturer) knows this information. I postulate that the guff you are getting is reflective of another car company in deep doodoo financially. (Think AMC, Hudson, Studebaker, Nash, etc.)

I was privvy to an investigation of a pre-OBD2 car which had been in a horrific front end crash years ago. This car was brought in by wrecker and deposited onto the lift next to me to be hoisted up. My curiosity was piqued in that this car was literally half of it's original length, and proved to be a challenge to get it raised up. As the technicians on hand were working on raising the car, a coterie of official looking people began congregating at this car. These were people in 3-piece suits and nerdy types in lab coats, with pocket protectors and lots and lots of photo equipment and electronical devices galore... not to mention their serfs setting up VERY bright lighting.

This car was an early 90's GM product; built just prior to OBD2. Being the gregarious type, I asked a man whom I recognized in the afore mentioned crown of "officials" as a GM engineer.

So, I walked over and asked "What's the ding-dang-deal?" He explained to me that there was a HUGE lawsuit against GM because a child was egregiously injured when the seat belt anchor failed, leaving the child a quadriplegic. Sad.

The car had hit a concrete abutment at apparently high speed, but the driver/ parent claimed less than 30 mph.
This engineer told me about the "flight recorder" function of upcoming OBD2 computer systems. GM engineers extrapolated from the accordianed state of the wrecked car, that the impact was more like 80+ mph.
 

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@clay282

OK, well dat sucks. I looked at Mopar Owners and ALL my service info, to even include the Mileage is gone and shows 0 odometer. Only thing correct is listing recalls done, picture of truck (avatar) and VIN. It's not dealer, it's their entire system.

Main Mopar Customer Assistance:

Mopar main department 800-399-2668

ADDED: I called, non speaker English person answered, gave me the bru ha ha BS, we not know this is a problem, said to a "ticket" and hung up.The Mopar Chat lady did say there was a problem, all she would admit to: SO if U plan on calling, LOL, good luck.

Excerpt from conversation:

Morning. What happened to all the Service Records that are now missing from the Mopar Owners site? It even shows my truck mileage as zero
Ryle Lester (1/30/2025, 8:39:46 AM): Thank you for bringing this to our attention, I can check this for you!
Ryle Lester (1/30/2025, 8:40:03 AM): Before I proceed, can you confirm these details to me please?
I am not the only one, the only reason I looked saw in RAM Forum info missing.
Thanks for waiting on me xxxxxxx, as per checking here yes a lot of customers are complaining on their service records that isn't visible on the account. I do apologize for what you are currently experiencing xxxxxxx, there is a service update that's ongoing with Mopar. For the meantime I do highly suggest to contact our Mopar main department 800-399-2668 for further assistance with the issue.
 
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G/L they acted like no problem existed wanted to start a ticket not see that helping.
 

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Exactly the same response that i received when I called customer service recently, as all my service records from multiple Ram dealers for the last 3 years have now disappeared, but my mileage is still viewable. Denial from them that there was even a problem, to the point that they questioned whether these service records were ever available on the website for viewing in the first place? My service records have always been viewable on the Mopar website since i purchased my new Ram truck in early 2022, but not anymore? I guess i will just have to contact each dealer individually and add the service records back myself via the Mopar 'Add a Record' link?
I am now more angry/frustrated about their denial of this issue than i am about the missing records........I thought that maybe the service records have been moved to another area or link within the Mopar website, not in the 'Service Records' link, but if so i would imagine customer service would be aware of this? (Or not)
 

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To play devil's advocate here... I spent about 6 months working in a call center and a lot of them are very compartmentalized. It could be very likely that the people you are talking to cannot see nor know anything about the website, why something isn't there, etc... Most are just like us. They get up, go to work, and go home. So if they seem to be unaware chances are, they are completely in the dark.

That said... they should be able to log a trouble ticket somewhere with a higher tier tech support and try to figure out why it's down. Heck, if you call into a lot of OEMs (looking at you Ford) customer service can't even talk about warranty tickets with you because it's a completely separate system that they don't even have access to. They have to submit a request to the warranty department and wait for the information to come back and then send it to you.
 

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I originally thought this Mopar site might be a good experience, so back in July 2017 and within 30 days of buying my slightly used and still under factory warranty 2014, I tried to sign up and get it working. What a colossal fail. I recall trying again about a week later, determined to get it going - but nope. Like talking to a brick wall. Completely and 100% useless.

I've been maintaining my own folder of receipts right from the beginning. It's more than 1-inch thick, I have everything, and my access is 24/7/365.
Also, I find it sometimes comes in handy when I want to add details to some of our discussions here.

Apparently the only thing FCA-related that is even worse than my local dealer is that web site. Same for U-Connect, which is actually even worse because they charge for it.

This forum, my own file folder, and an indie shop close-by are all I need. ;)
 

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Exactly the same response that i received when I called customer service recently, as all my service records from multiple Ram dealers for the last 3 years have now disappeared, but my mileage is still viewable. Denial from them that there was even a problem, to the point that they questioned whether these service records were ever available on the website for viewing in the first place? My service records have always been viewable on the Mopar website since i purchased my new Ram truck in early 2022, but not anymore? I guess i will just have to contact each dealer individually and add the service records back myself via the Mopar 'Add a Record' link?
I am now more angry/frustrated about their denial of this issue than i am about the missing records........I thought that maybe the service records have been moved to another area or link within the Mopar website, not in the 'Service Records' link, but if so i would imagine customer service would be aware of this? (Or not)
FYI, hurry to Dealer. I had my SA get wat he could, but he said at This dealership, they only keep records for 4 years.
 

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I originally thought this Mopar site might be a good experience, so back in July 2017 and within 30 days of buying my slightly used and still under factory warranty 2014, I tried to sign up and get it working. What a colossal fail. I recall trying again about a week later, determined to get it going - but nope. Like talking to a brick wall. Completely and 100% useless.

I've been maintaining my own folder of receipts right from the beginning. It's more than 1-inch thick, I have everything, and my access is 24/7/365.
Also, I find it sometimes comes in handy when I want to add details to some of our discussions here.

Apparently the only thing FCA-related that is even worse than my local dealer is that web site. Same for U-Connect, which is actually even worse because they charge for it.

This forum, my own file folder, and an indie shop close-by are all I need. ;)
I kept the majority of invoices, BUT NOT all of them, grrrrr, missing stuff that goes back to 2018,19,20 now. I was just cruising along figured all good, MY BAD.
 

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To play devil's advocate here... I spent about 6 months working in a call center and a lot of them are very compartmentalized. It could be very likely that the people you are talking to cannot see nor know anything about the website, why something isn't there, etc... Most are just like us. They get up, go to work, and go home. So if they seem to be unaware chances are, they are completely in the dark.

That said... they should be able to log a trouble ticket somewhere with a higher tier tech support and try to figure out why it's down. Heck, if you call into a lot of OEMs (looking at you Ford) customer service can't even talk about warranty tickets with you because it's a completely separate system that they don't even have access to. They have to submit a request to the warranty department and wait for the information to come back and then send it to you.
Your post reminds me of a situation I was in the midst of in 2002. I was working in one of Houston's premier Ford dealers, on a then new design Explorer. I was an automatic transmission specialist at that time, which required a very deep knowledge of electronics, due to the nature of the EEC controlled transmissions, and the need to be able to diagnose drivability concerns due to those causing or contributing to auto trans proper functions.

We had a woman who'd bought a new design Explorer that summer. In August of 2002, she had put about 3-4 thousand miles on it. She brought it in due to intermittent cooling of the A/C temps out of the passenger compartment vents.

I got involved because of my electrical/ electronics background, AFTER it was brought back for it's 3rd time in short order for the same problem, and, the HVAC specialist was away tending to his critically ill wife.

The Factory diagnostics flow chart screamed "Bad Ecm". One thing I noticed was a stand-alone DTC of the "U" variety in the instrment cluster. (Ford calls this the "HEC" module... Hybrid electronic cluster).

I noticed in the dealer history that 3 ECM's had been replaced.
Anyhoo, the net problem was that the ECM would intermittently stop commanding relay pick for A/C compressor turn on.

Being one of the yahoos in the big corporate structure, I followed protocol and called Ford's Tech line. That fella agreed that the ECM was a likely cause. When I mentioned the phantom/ intermittent "U" code, it didn't phase him, and he said he really couldn't see how THAT would have anything to do with the problem.

Keep in mind, this vehicle's inter module communication system was Ford's "early" CAN/BUS, named "SCP, or Standard Corporate Protocol". FEW knew anything about this new fangled way of computers talking to one another, yet, it had been in place in manufacturing for a long time.

I was directed to replace the ECM, for the 4th time. (The whole " crazy" thing about doing the same thing repeatedly expecting different results!)

So, back to your point, I was directed by the Ford Call Center to call a different phone number... to the ECM's engineering/ manufacturing guys. THAT guy, was in the process of getting ANOTHER PCM authorized for this issue. Meanwhile, The woman who owned the car contacted a Lemon Law attorney, and Ford reacted by sending a field engineer down to get involved. This put a quietus on the fixing of this vehicle and this took it out of my hands

Of note, my GM training germane to CAN/BUS systems had me taught that solving ANY DTC in ANY module was/ is required FIRST, due to the whole "snipe hunt" thing. When I tried to mention this to that engineer, he was snide and condescending to me.

He and 2 other techs in the shop had wiring harnesses and half the car disassembled, to no avail.

Eventually, the HEC module was replaced and the car was fixed. Go figure.
 
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So it's not just mine... Good to know. After my interaction with that dealer and the conversation with the lady from Mopar support, I didn't question the thought of it being intentional by the dealer. I didn't have that 2668 number. I'll call them today to register my issue. Maybe they can pull it from a backup.
It's not the dealership, MA MOPAR, in all it's glory. When they entered services into MA MOPAR, site got populated. What happened to all that info, who knows? My dealership only maintains last 4 years, sure hope I not need any info...

But I have this unfortunately finality in a feeling, that all THIS INFO is gone, and the chance of MA MOPAR getting it all reinstated is a whopping 0 %%%.
 

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I worked in a Verizon Wireless call center back in 2008 (when it was still US based) after getting laid off from the diesel truck dealership thanks to the recession. There was the general customer service dept (where I worked) that could answer billing questions, take online orders, and do very basic troubleshooting. Then there was Tier 1 tech support, which could troubleshoot software related issues and a few very minor hardware issues. Then Tier 2, that handled more advanced hardware/software troubleshooting and also troubleshoot towers, etc... There was a sales department for big orders, a Gov sales/customer service dept, a retention department, and a warranty department. Not one department could see the other's data and everything required a ticket to be submitted and then to wait for a response.

Then there were actual Verizon corporate stores, and we could see "limited" data from their systems. And finally the 3rd party "Verizon" stores, of which we could see none of their data and would routinely get cursed out because one of those stores promised things that we couldn't do and since they were not actually Verizon, we had no recourse. It sucked telling customers that they have to go back to that store because in their mind, it was all Verizon.

It was nuts, but has caused me to give some latitude to customer service when I call in because I have seen it before.
 
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