"What DON'T you like about your 5th Gen RAM"?

[mikeru]

Some repetition here I am sure but would love the following to be changed/added in future models:

33 Gallon Fuel tank as standard...or at least don't require other packages to get it
Walk away auto door lock feature
Locking fuel door ideally that auto locks as well
Ram Boxes that do not warp
Bed Extender standard with the add on package
360 Camera available with tow mirrows
360 Camera/Ventilated seats available on Rebel
Sport mode for the transmission...stock settings even on 3.92 rear no where near as sporty as F150 10 speed in sport mode
Larger rear view mirror...current one is pretty small for a truck
Better AC...I know beat to death but true compared to rivals
6.4 Hemi option that has the 485 HP
Exhaust Modes

Just to add...love the truck but things can always be improved!

It's like you read my mind with this list. And the lack of ventilated seats is the primary reason I went with the Laramie instead of another Rebel.

 

[corneileous]

Some repetition here I am sure but would love the following to be changed/added in future models:

33 Gallon Fuel tank as standard...or at least don't require other packages to get it
Walk away auto door lock feature
Locking fuel door ideally that auto locks as well
Ram Boxes that do not warp
Bed Extender standard with the add on package
360 Camera available with tow mirrows
360 Camera/Ventilated seats available on Rebel
Sport mode for the transmission...stock settings even on 3.92 rear no where near as sporty as F150 10 speed in sport mode
Larger rear view mirror...current one is pretty small for a truck
Better AC...I know beat to death but true compared to rivals
6.4 Hemi option that has the 485 HP
Exhaust Modes

Just to add...love the truck but things can always be improved!

I tend to agree about the tank. Even with more power outta my new truck I’m not stopping for gas near as much as I did in the old truck with the smaller tank. But, those folks who have the 3.21 gears are getting pretty phenomenal mileage numbers and can go the same, if not more on a tank of fuel that I can go on with my bigger tank with 3.92’s. Guess that may be why there’s two different size tanks?

That auto door lock feature would be kinda neat but since they conveniently put the lock and unlock capability on the front handles that doesn’t require key fob in hand, why would you need that? But I will add that like for example, if I have to get something out of the truck and if it was locked prior, it will re-lock itself after a few minutes or so of closing the door or the tailgate.

Yes, a locking fuel door would be nice because let’s face it, locking fuel caps are about as useless against thieves as a screen door is on a sub.

I’m not sure about the new rebels but believe it or not, Ram thinks that tire tread pattern on the seats is more important than having them ventilated because it’s because of the tire tread pattern not having the little holes in it is why they don’t come with air conditioned seats.

I guess that’s just a difference of opinion because I feel like my Hemi is already in Sport mode when I ease awful hard on the go pedal. But if that Egoboost is so bad ass then why does it even need a sport mode? It’s already pushing more power than the Hemi so, why? Just curious.

I guess I just don’t see it with the rear view mirror... mine in my 18 doesn’t seem to be any smaller than the one on any other truck I’ve driven.....hmm. I see behind me just fine with mine. Don’t really know why or even thought it needs to be bigger.

But my AC has been working pretty good. I don’t know where you live but down here in southern Oklahoma, it can get pretty hot and it can get pretty sticky outside in the summer so, my AC does a pretty good job at keeping my hot-natured ass cool. The only thing I’ve heard people complain about is that all new refrigerant that they’ve been putting in here that makes it to where you can’t just run down to your local parts store and go grab a can of AC refrigerant if yours might be a little low but other than that, I got no complaints outta mine, anyways.

But I still see no real reason why anyone would have to have a 400ci V8 in a half ton when the smaller one already makes close to 400 hp but I guess that’s just me.


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[corneileous]

It's like you read my mind with this list. And the lack of ventilated seats is the primary reason I went with the Laramie instead of another Rebel.

It’s just like I told Timeless, I’m almost hundred percent certain the reason why the rebels don’t come with ventilated seats is because there’s no ventilation holes poked into the leather seat cover where that great big tire track is. Other than that, there really is no reason why the rebels can’t have ventilated seats as well. If I was ever interested in a rebel, I think I’d be saying ditch the goofy tire track pattern and put me a normal seat in there that blows that air out of it because I’m not gonna lie to you, I’ve never had ventilated seats before but they are nice.


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[Timeless]

I guess that’s just a difference of opinion because I feel like my Hemi is already in Sport mode when I ease awful hard on the go pedal. But if that Egoboost is so bad ass then why does it even need a sport mode? It’s already pushing more power than the Hemi so, why? Just curious.

We definitely have a difference. Please go test drive an F150 3.5 EB and get back to me. Normal mode is a big difference...sport mode will just **** you off.

But my AC has been working pretty good. I don’t know where you live but down here in southern Oklahoma, it can get pretty hot and it can get pretty sticky outside in the summer so, my AC does a pretty good job at keeping my hot-natured ass cool. The only thing I’ve heard people complain about is that all new refrigerant that they’ve been putting in here that makes it to where you can’t just run down to your local parts store and go grab a can of AC refrigerant if yours might be a little low but other than that, I got no complaints outta mine, anyways.

AC changed in 5th gen 1500s so you are not affected.

But I still see no real reason why anyone would have to have a 400ci V8 in a half ton when the smaller one already makes close to 400 hp but I guess that’s just me.

Yup

 

[corneileous]

We definitely have a difference. Please go test drive an F150 3.5 EB and get back to me. Normal mode is a big difference...sport mode will just **** you off.

I highly doubt it will. But why even grace the seat in that aluminum POS with my ass if I already have a pretty good idea that it will be faster a little?? But hell, it should. Two turbos on a V6 kinda takes away the dramatic affect of its thunder of comparing that V6 to a V8 that only relies on it’s own vacuum to pull air into it.

But hey, the Sport plus mode on my pedal commander gives me quite the invigorating experience....[emoji41] No Phord test drive needed.

AC changed in 5th gen 1500s so you are not affected.

Hmm, can’t imagine why. Should be real close to the same damn system running the same damn refrigerant but what do I know?....[emoji2369]

Yup

Lol.


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[Timeless]

I highly doubt it will. But why even grace the seat in that aluminum POS with my ass if I already have a pretty good idea that it will be faster a little?? But hell, it should. Two turbos on a V6 kinda takes away the dramatic affect of its thunder of comparing that V6 to a V8 that only relies on it’s own vacuum to pull air into it.

But hey, the Sport plus mode on my pedal commander gives me quite the invigorating experience....[emoji41] No Phord test drive needed.

You do realize the title of the thread right?

Hmm, can’t imagine why. Should be real close to the same damn system running the same damn refrigerant but what do I know?....[emoji2369]

Yup

 

[corneileous]

You do realize the title of the thread right?

Indubitably. The reason you’re asking; is why?

Yup

I get what you’re insinuating but quite frankly, I haven’t heard of anybody having any issues with the 5th Gens and the air conditioners not getting cold. All I’ve heard is just issues with the big 12 inch Uconnect screen, and maybe a couple other things but not the AC.


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[mikeru]

It’s just like I told Timeless, I’m almost hundred percent certain the reason why the rebels don’t come with ventilated seats is because there’s no ventilation holes poked into the leather seat cover where that great big tire track is. Other than that, there really is no reason why the rebels can’t have ventilated seats as well. If I was ever interested in a rebel, I think I’d be saying ditch the goofy tire track pattern and put me a normal seat in there that blows that air out of it because I’m not gonna lie to you, I’ve never had ventilated seats before but they are nice.


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The section of seat with the tire tread pattern is fabric, not leather. No need to poke holes in fabric. There's actually no leather on the standard Rebel seats. They're covered with vinyl and fabric. You can upgrade to premium leather seats, but they still aren't ventilated. I offered to pay my dealer to swap ventilated seats into a Rebel I was looking to order from them, and they said they couldn't do it. So I gave up and found a Laramie at another dealership with pretty much everything I wanted, instead of ordering a Rebel. The biggest thing I miss about my 2017 Rebel is how well the grille and front bumper held up to rock chips. After just one winter I already have more chips on my Laramie than I had after three winters with the Rebel.

 

[Jus Cruisin]

You do realize the title of the thread right?


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Don't get him started on another thread.......

 

[corneileous]

Don't get him started on another thread.......

Don’t get me started?? Who was the one who even said it here that I needed to go test drive a damn Phord and even stopped to sayin I was gonna be disappointed, or some ****?....lol. That wasn’t me. Probably oughta tell him not to get started but hey, birds of a feather flock together, eh?....[emoji23]


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[Jus Cruisin]

I get what you’re insinuating but quite frankly, I haven’t heard of anybody having any issues with the 5th Gens and the air conditioners not getting cold. All I’ve heard is just issues with the big 12 inch Uconnect screen, and maybe a couple other things but not the AC.


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3 or 4 thread topics on the 5th Gen forum.

One called "Air Conditioning Performance" with 55 PAGES of complaining.......

 

[corneileous]

The section of seat with the tire tread pattern is fabric, not leather. No need to poke holes in fabric. There's actually no leather on the standard Rebel seats. They're covered with vinyl and fabric. You can upgrade to premium leather seats, but they still aren't ventilated. I offered to pay my dealer to swap ventilated seats into a Rebel I was looking to order from them, and they said they couldn't do it. So I gave up and found a Laramie at another dealership with pretty much everything I wanted, instead of ordering a Rebel. The biggest thing I miss about my 2017 Rebel is how well the grille and front bumper held up to rock chips. After just one winter I already have more chips on my Laramie than I had after three winters with the Rebel.

Well, maybe that’s it then. Maybe they feel only leather seats benefit from the ventilation and figure cloth seats are gonna feel cooler than leather.


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[corneileous]

3 or 4 thread topics on the 5th Gen forum.

One called "Air Conditioning Performance" with 55 PAGES of complaining.......

The 5th Gen section here, or the actual forum called 5th Gen Rams? I’m on this site a lot and haven’t seen nothing about that here. I’m not member of that other one.


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[mikeru]

Well, maybe that’s it then. Maybe they feel only leather seats benefit from the ventilation and figure cloth seats are gonna feel cooler than leather.


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Hahaha, you could be right. I can think of other reasons, but in the end it's up to the design engineers and bean counters to know why that decision was made. Personally, I think air cooled seats should be available on every model.

 

[corneileous]

Hahaha, you could be right. I can think of other reasons, but in the end it's up to the design engineers and bean counters to know why that decision was made. Personally, I think air cooled seats should be available on every model.

I think I would agree with you on that but something just tells me that there really wouldn’t be an effective way to put all those little holes in that fabric and make them stay open enough to allow all the little plans inside your seat bottom to effectively blow air up. At least with the leather seat combo that material will hold together better to where it would be really easy to punch all those tiny little holes in it and know that they’re going to stay open so that you can get plenty of air flow through the little holes.

But on a sidenote, I could’ve swore I read somewhere that the rebel came with leather seats but oh well, if they are in fact not leather, that could very well be the reason why they don’t come with the ventilated seats.


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[mikeru]

I think I would agree with you on that but something just tells me that there really wouldn’t be an effective way to put all those little holes in that fabric and make them stay open enough to allow all the little plans inside your seat bottom to effectively blow air up. At least with the leather seat combo that material will hold together better to where it would be really easy to punch all those tiny little holes in it and know that they’re going to stay open so that you can get plenty of air flow through the little holes.

But on a sidenote, I could’ve swore I read somewhere that the rebel came with leather seats but oh well, if they are in fact not leather, that could very well be the reason why they don’t come with the ventilated seats.


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Why do you think you'd need to punch holes in the fabric? Because of it's open weave nature, fabric naturally allows air to pass through without the need for extra holes. If not, you wouldn't be able to use a handkerchief as a face mask. Or any other type of fabric. The amount of air which can pass through depends on how tight the weave is. I don't remember the fabric on the seats of my 2017 Rebel being particularly tightly weaved, but I wasn't really inspecting it for that. But for the sake of argument, lets say you're right. The fact of the matter is, you can upgrade to leather seats in the Rebel, and even then you still can't get ventilated seats. Hopefully Ram will see all the people who complain about that and change it. But as of last Halloween you couldn't get it in a Rebel even with the leather interior.

 

[corneileous]

Why do you think you'd need to punch holes in the fabric? Because of it's open weave nature, fabric naturally allows air to pass through without the need for extra holes. If not, you wouldn't be able to use a handkerchief as a face mask. Or any other type of fabric. The amount of air which can pass through depends on how tight the weave is. I don't remember the fabric on the seats of my 2017 Rebel being particularly tightly weaved, but I wasn't really inspecting it for that. But for the sake of argument, lets say you're right. The fact of the matter is, you can upgrade to leather seats in the Rebel, and even then you still can't get ventilated seats. Hopefully Ram will see all the people who complain about that and change it. But as of last Halloween you couldn't get it in a Rebel even with the leather interior.

So you mean to tell me that you don’t think air won’t blow through those little bitty pin holes in my leather seat cover easier than they would put that tightly-weaved cloth? I’m just simply saying, that’s what they probably see. And due to the fact that even though air may not flow through those cloth seat covers as effectively as the holes in my leather seats, I bet your anything air will flow through that cloth way better than it will through my leather without the holes so once again, that might be the reason why only the trucks with leather seats have the fans in them. Besides, cloth is not going to retain heat as much as leather will.

What do you mean when you say even though you can upgrade to the leather seats but still can’t get the ventilated seats? Are you saying putting on leather seat covers yourself, or getting them from the dealer? Either way, if you could find some of the factory leather seats like what came in my limited, with the innovation of that alpha OBD thing, I’m sure you could buy the ventilated seat parts and activate it with that little device and be probably one of the very few rebel owners that has air conditioned leather seats.


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[JoeCo]

So you mean to tell me that you don’t think air won’t blow through those little bitty pin holes in my leather seat cover easier than they would put that tightly-weaved cloth? I’m just simply saying, that’s what they probably see. And due to the fact that even though air may not flow through those cloth seat covers as effectively as the holes in my leather seats, I bet your anything air will flow through that cloth way better than it will through my leather without the holes so once again, that might be the reason why only the trucks with leather seats have the fans in them. Besides, cloth is not going to retain heat as much as leather will.

What do you mean when you say even though you can upgrade to the leather seats but still can’t get the ventilated seats? Are you saying putting on leather seat covers yourself, or getting them from the dealer? Either way, if you could find some of the factory leather seats like what came in my limited, with the innovation of that alpha OBD thing, I’m sure you could buy the ventilated seat parts and activate it with that little device and be probably one of the very few rebel owners that has air conditioned leather seats.


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It doesn't blow air through your seats, it sucks the hot air from the seat giving it a cooling effect. The fans are pulling the hot air out, not blowing cold air in.

 

[TestPilot57]

The fans are pulling the hot air out...

...and some rigs have more hot air than others...

 

[corneileous]

It doesn't blow air through your seats, it sucks the hot air from the seat giving it a cooling effect. The fans are pulling the hot air out, not blowing cold air in.

In, out, down, up....lol. I bet the air... irregardless of the way it goes, flows through those holes in the leather much easier than it does through woven fabric.

But thanks for clearing that up, I was wondering why I never actually felt air blowing up my backside but felt more like there actually was air conditioned air coming outta the seat from it feeling cooler.


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