What makes a Warlock so different?

[Rogues Gambit]

As I posted in Exterior (What did the deer do), my trucks being worked on, so I got a loaner, a stripper warlock

Oh snap crackle and pop, it's definitely more nimble and agile, definitely smaller too and doesn't have a moon roof, also surprisingly like that it's lower (or so it seems)

Is it the tires, and ride height, or does it have a LSD instead of a locker as well?

 

[19Jake]

Warlock > 4th Gen

 

[kmrtnsn]

Decals.....

 

[Pittsttop]

Feels like a smaller truck to me also, though per specifications it's a 4th gen and has a 1 inch lift. I am enjoying the ride and handling compared my 2010 6 inch lifted Tundra. Curious how well it's going to handle off road. I owned a 2005 1500 Daytona RC gomango and it was excellent. The Warlock is a cheaper version of the Rebel in my case by $15k. Do you think the Warlock is worth it?

 

[kmrtnsn]

All the Warlocks out here are 2WD. My wife has a loaded Rebel and the Warlock is significantly "decontented" by comparison. My 2019 SLT 4x4 came with the 5" LCD dash and 8.4 U-Connect. For a parts bin end of production I don't think they represent a great value. Also, the 4X4 has the modest lift, not the 2WD. The P275/60R20s account for the handling.

 

[392DevilDog]

A warlock is just a package for the 2019 RAM classic. It takes some of the Rebel exterior parts and adds them to create a unique truck.

Most of the ones I have seen haven't even had the decal.

There is no locker in the 4th Gen, but I also do not believe the warlock comes standard with an anti-spin.

It is kinda like the Express package on a tradesman...something to give a better look to an lower priced package.

 

[392DevilDog]

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This is what RAM has to say about it

 

[DarthMegaHD]

I had the impression they were 4th gen rebels without any fancy rebel suspension, just standard suspension. But the look of a rebel

 

[Richg87]

Love the looks of the Warlock. It drives smaller and is really smooth. Love the lift and the fender flares. I have the 5" screen. Don't need anything fancy and all the gadgets. I keep my trucks for 10+ years.

 

[Rogues Gambit]

Thanks guys and while I didn't see it, 4lock or 4hi

Yeah, can't believe how small it is, just needs a stick now

 

[Rogues Gambit]

Actually, while I couldn't compare the widths, they seemed about the same size.

Guessing while I can't really make up for the weight difference, I could switch out the tires for street ones and also get stupid and consider replacing the locker with an LSD, though if anything, two sets of tires would be a better idea

 

[Tim Garceau]

It's like the trail mix of nuts, leftover pieces from other trim/model assembly that fell onto the floor and they threw them all together into a package called the Warlock.

 

[Rogues Gambit]

It's like the trail mix of nuts, leftover pieces from other trim/model assembly that fell onto the floor and they threw them all together into a package called the Warlock.

Only shame is it's not more in your face with badging to remind you

WoW my old main was a lock, so the name's a little sentimental to me

 

[392DevilDog]

I am very confused by you saying it is smaller.

Compared to what?

You saying it is smaller than a 2019 Rebel in the cab...well, yeah, the cab is 4 inches bigger.

You saying it sits lower than a 2019 Rebel. Just by the difference in tires.

Narrower than a 2019 Rebel...that would be minimal at best.

Or, I just misread and you were comparing it to something else

 

[mikeru]

The Warlock is basically a 4th gen Big Horn base model with Rebel skin and a 1 inch lift (4x4 only). It's the same exact size as any other 4th gen.

 

[stimpy433]

A Rebel, a Big Horn, and Harry Potter had a ********* and it resulted in the Warlock....

 

[kmrtnsn]

I am very confused by you saying it is smaller.

Compared to what?

You saying it is smaller than a 2019 Rebel in the cab...well, yeah, the cab is 4 inches bigger.

You saying it sits lower than a 2019 Rebel. Just by the difference in tires.

Narrower than a 2019 Rebel...that would be minimal at best.

Or, I just misread and you were comparing it to something else

There are NO changes in dimensions.

 

[BWL]

The warlock has a shorter wheelbase than your 5th gen. That would explain the nimbler feel even if it is only 4". my 2011 felt nimbler than my 2017 around town because I have a cc standard box now instead of the quad so 8" longer wheelbase. Smaller may just be a product of the taller fenders on the 5th cutting a little visibility and of course the shorter cab length even though the 4th gen crew cab isn't exactly tight quarters.if you have a 5th gen cc standard box meaning the 6'4 one its over a 12" wheelbase difference from the warlock, which is a very noticeable difference.

 

[392DevilDog]

There are NO changes in dimensions.

The 2019 Rebel crew cab he has a d the 2019 classic Warlock that is his loaner are both crew cabs.

His 2019 Rebel has a 4 inch bigger cab

And the Rebel has larger tires than the Warlock and would. Then sit higher.

And the Rebel sport hood does give the affect of sitting higher than the more sloped sport hood on the Warlock

 

[Rogues Gambit]

I am very confused by you saying it is smaller.

Compared to what?

You saying it is smaller than a 2019 Rebel in the cab...well, yeah, the cab is 4 inches bigger.

You saying it sits lower than a 2019 Rebel. Just by the difference in tires.

Narrower than a 2019 Rebel...that would be minimal at best.

Or, I just misread and you were comparing it to something else

Just driving it since yesterday, it feels like I'm driving a smaller vehicle is all, so I assume that since it's a Street Rebel, it's tires and diff that I'm noticing

Maybe it's all placebo to me, or maybe going from AT to AS tires will make a difference.

Just my two cents. Bright side, mods will be installed as it's getting fixed, which should be soon enough.

The 2019 Rebel crew cab he has a d the 2019 classic Warlock that is his loaner are both crew cabs.

His 2019 Rebel has a 4 inch bigger cab

And the Rebel has larger tires than the Warlock and would. Then sit higher.

And the Rebel sport hood does give the affect of sitting higher than the more sloped sport hood on the Warlock

Gotcha gotcha, figured that was the case. Like I said, feels like a toy.

Also on the bright side, get to ship out my rims today, just gotta finish getting them ready first