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Jak259 · Jun 5, 2015

I see a million posts on oil but can you guys tell me the best oil filter to use with synthetic. 2014 hemi thanks a lot

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Burla · Jun 5, 2015

Royal Purple.

HammerHead · Jun 5, 2015

Royal Purple

Burla · Jun 5, 2015

video RP filters

I cut one open after 14 months of use just a couple months ago, was still like new. I was blown away, wasn't expecting them to be that good, but they are.

MyOhFive · Jun 5, 2015

Burla said:
video RP filters

I cut one open after 14 months of use just a couple months ago, was still like new. I was blown away, wasn't expecting them to be that good, but they are.

Couldn't that arguably mean they also don't filter ****..? lol

pkrexer · Jun 5, 2015

I use:

Burla · Jun 5, 2015

MyOhFive said:
Couldn't that arguably mean they also don't filter ****..? lol

99% at 25 microns and wont blow a hole like paper and filter nothing at all. Compared to say Fram that is rated for 20 microns for all of their filters, same as Amsoil. So to answer your question Royal Purple filters great and I doubt you could get them to fail if you tried until they simply get clogged. And the flow rate is better then other filters and it made a difference in my own truck when I used a Purolator synthetic filter and my tick started coming back. The puro is also rated at 25 microns but as I found out does not have the same filter holes that allow flow as the RP does. See bottom pic, the RP filter has 8 holes but many smaller holes in the mesh body, and it makes a huge difference in oil flow. All I did was change my filter because I run my oil for two years, and my engine did not like it. Hard to believe, but the facts are true blue. I have nothing to gain by saying so, just sharing my finding with the forum.

You can filter down to 1 micron but your engine would cease from lack of flow, so you have to let something through. 20-25 microns is the sweet spot IMO, to each is own on that. In my opinion from the filters I have personally tested and cut open, there is no need to ever look at other filters for me, Royal Purple is it. However, I am not a fan of their oil but that would be another thread, but they really put a great oil filter together.

Broke pilot · Jun 5, 2015

Wix filters... Never had a problem. Be honest, do you really need a synthetic filter? Unless you're racing every day and high rpm all the time, probly not. I've been running Wix for years on every vehicle I own, and they're all still going strong.

HuskerRam · Jun 5, 2015

Mopar filters. Inexpensive and filters oil as well as any other filter. If you're changing oil when the truck tells you to, don't overthink the filter...they'll all to the job well. If you're looking to extend your change intervals, then maybe a synthetic-material filter is best.

SlowRoller · Jun 5, 2015

How about Champion filters?

We proudly manufacture and distribute the following brands of filters:

Luber-finer - Champ - Mopar
Kleener - Imperial XL - Ecore -
STP - TRD - MXM -
Petro Clear - Deutsch - VW -
Royal Purple - Mobil - Service Champ

(Dayum Burla, you're going to retire early with those RP checks!! LOL!)

Jak259 · Jun 5, 2015

Thanks for all the info

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SlowRoller · Jun 5, 2015

Jak259 said:
I see a million posts on oil but can you guys tell me the best oil filter to use with synthetic. 2014 hemi thanks a lot

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IMHO,,, When choosing a filter,,, oil type isn't quite as critical as how often do you plan on changing the filter?

Gonna dump that synthetic/filter at 3,000 miles? Then 'nothing fancy' required,,,

Gonna follow OEM recommended intervals? You'll need something that will hold together long enough/have enough dirt holding capacity to meet that demand. (Probably why the 'new' small mopar filters came out,,, they are built to a certain spec,,, perhaps one that the prior versions could not achieve)

Going all out on your OCI's, (or want one with 'decent' internal build?) Filters with a wire mesh supporting the medium are a good choice, with a quality medium that will hold the butt load of dirt that you'll accumulate over all those miles,,,

"""BEST"""??????????

Depends on what ya plan on doing with it,,, there is no 'one size fits all' answer,,,

Burla · Jun 5, 2015

Broke pilot said:
Be honest, do you really need a synthetic filter?

Wix has a synthetic, but to answer your question I challenge you to cut your own paper filter open like I have at 6 mos and 12 mos, and then cut your synthetic filter open. You would answer your own question and I doubt you would ever run a paper filter again. How do you think the paper is held together? What happens when the binding agent has multiple hot oil cycles and combustion debris over time? I'll give you a hint, it gets stiff and then blows a hole or a couple small holes and your filter is no longer filtering worth a damn. Anyone who wants to run a paper filter anywhere near 8k miles, do yourself a favor and keep your man card intact and cut a filter open and see how the pleets are doing. 14 months and my RP filter was like new. I challenge anyone to get half of that with a paper filter. Take the Burla challenge or hush yourself. :sleepy10:

250 magnification paper versus royal purple glass filter. Micro-glass media will not break down under oil cycles, probably ever, but paper breaks down fairly fast, most places say 3 months but I bet sometimes they have already failed at 3 month mark.

And only 11 bucks shipped to your door from Amazon, can u say bargain?

Don't resist helpful knowledge, just adsorb it.

SlowRoller · Jun 6, 2015

Dadgummit Burla,,,,,

What in Gawds name made you run a filter (and assumedly the same oil) for 14 months??? Was it on blocks in a garage somewhere all that time!!?!?!?! LOL!!!!

Even AMSOIL with all it's "Extended OCI's SAVE YOU MONEY!!!" hype would not recommend that long of an OCI/OFI,,, (12 months MAX regardless of mileage)

Did RP tell you that was it was perfectly fine to do that???

Tell us why it didn't get pulled off/replaced sooner?

Burla · Jun 6, 2015

UOA is king when it comes to what is the appropriate oil change interval, and for me it isn't 14 months but 24. That is around 12k miles, and even at 24 months my estimated TBN will be near 3. Anything over 1 and your oil is still good. The type of oil also allows for extended drain intervals, but this is covered in syn thread. My oil was still amber looking after 14 months and 5k plus miles.

Since the RP is micro glass, oil will never degrade it as long as you still have TBN. So I don't even have an estimate when a RP filter would fail, it would be dependent on the engine and how much combustion particles would clog it. And I would dare to say in my engine that would probably be well over 5 years, lol. Anyhow, I am completely comfortable doing two year OCI's because of the low miles.

Interesting, filter technology has surpassed oil technology, as far as condition over time. However, the individual would have to chose to use it. Many guys are still opting for paper.

SlowRoller · Jun 6, 2015

24 months !?!?!

You're not really racking up the miles, but,,,, we'll have to agree to disagree on this subject! LOL!!!!

Burla · Jun 6, 2015

Here is my oil after 14 months on a RP filter, no not the new oil -the oil on the left. It doesn't smell rancid at all, in fact still smells new and is just the dark side of Amber, Tossing this would be a waste, especially at near 100 bucks for an oil change. And this is the oil from the filter, usually the worst and it is in good shape. On the dipstick this still looks new, not black at all. Depends on what oil you are using, but in my opinion ester based oil will be working better then brand new mineral oil. If you would ever like a professionals opinion on how your oil is holding up after a year of service, just send a sample for 35 bucks with a tbn to blackstone and find out for yourself. The short oil change interval was necessary with old technology, but these super oils and super oil filters really are fantastic.

Sillygoose · Jun 7, 2015

i cut my purolator paper filter open after a 9k change w/ rp oil. looked fine to me, no big holes or anything like mr. doomsday claims. been running the same oil (rp 5-20) & filter (the grippy yellow pur) on my 2011 w/ 85k on it, changing at 8k to 10k intervals. no issues thus far. i did switch to a rp filter this time & penn ultra plat, just to see what the hype was about. i'll post my findings after another 9 to 10k change. imo, for your average joe driver, this is all hype and bs

Burla · Jun 7, 2015

Sillygoose said:
i cut my purolator paper filter open after a 9k change w/ rp oil. looked fine to me, no big holes or anything like mr. doomsday claims. been running the same oil (rp 5-20) & filter (the grippy yellow pur) on my 2011 w/ 85k on it, changing at 8k to 10k intervals. no issues thus far. i did switch to a rp filter this time & penn ultra plat, just to see what the hype was about. i'll post my findings after another 9 to 10k change. imo, for your average joe driver, this is all hype and bs

You wouldn't see big holes, you wouldn't see any holes. They happen at the bottom of the pleet and it would likely be a rip or tear, and did you bother to feel the paper? If you are going to tell me it was fresh and not harder then cardboard at 9k miles for a paper filter, I call that bs and bad information. You can read the syn thread, I cut my purolator (yellow) open after 5k miles, and it was stiff as a board.

Here is some hype for ya, this filter was toast at 5k. When the paper gets stiff, it no longer filters worth a damn, there is a tear somewhere and larger micron particles are floating around your engine.

9k on a paper filter and you think it is just fine = Hype.

BlownGP · Jun 7, 2015

I've used Purolator synthetic on my last oil change.

I have a Fram Ultra synthetic now..
Now I only change my oil at 5-6K. Just don't feel comfortable going any longer.

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