header coating

badfish888 · Jul 5, 2010

well, its getting close to the time for me to get my headers. I have decided on shorties because of the ease of the install and i dont have the funding for the custom fab work of long tubes. But i do have a few questions for the ram gods on the best ram forum........

A: best to worst header coatings, "stainless" "ceramic" etc. and y
B: are all brands pretty much the same hp gain

THANKS Forum is awsome BTW

Redtruck-VA · Jul 5, 2010

Well, my shallow water friend in this day and age I still take exception to statements such as your signature that's only purpose is the **** folks off. Our sailors deserve better.

SilentRamAD · Jul 5, 2010

Redtruck-VA said:
Well, my shallow water friend in this day and age I still take exception to statements such as your signature that's only purpose is the **** folks off. Our sailors deserve better.

Believe it or not, most armed service branches have their little sayings about the others in all fun and games, unless you're in the service too then fair enough. I call my cousin who's in the navy a salt swab all the time because I get crap from him since I was considering the AF (fairy). Rant over.

To the OP, I don't quite have much info but I'm sure others will chime in

AF_Hemi · Jul 5, 2010

Im proud to be in the Chair Force!!

1. Ceramic hands down. better transfer of heat = better performance. they look brand new forever, last WAY longer cause the metal is protected.
2. Stainless - dont rust quite as easy as painted, but still change colors instantly
3. Painted - garbage. look good for first 5 minutes. after first winter they start rusting

glass3222 · Jul 5, 2010

I would get ceramic coating unless you find a great deal. Stainless will last, but I would even get them ceramic coated.

As far as brand, from my research BBK, JBA, and Edelbrock are about the same in performance gains. I went with BBK chrome shorties because I got a great deal on them. They are definitely better performance wise than the stock manifolds.

truckin151 · Jul 5, 2010

Get the ceramic and then look into the JBA shorties or the eldelbrock TES, been hearing that after LT's those two are up there on the list for shorties.

Also with the LT's there really isn't a whole lot of fab work to get them in. Take the Pacesetter LT's, you can pick up their off road Y for fairly cheap and that kit bolts straight up to the headers, no welding required (although mine leaked like an SOB until I got it welded up). If you want to keep the cats in place you can pick up some high flows for around $90 or so and it should slide right on, no welding either. All the fab work comes if you want to do something else (like going with a true dual setup or retaining the stock cats).

AF_Hemi · Jul 5, 2010

yeah my Pacesetters with Pacesetter Y bolted right up. no leaking, no fabbing. just went right into place.

RubberFrog · Jul 6, 2010

AF_Hemi said:
1. Ceramic hands down. better transfer of heat = better performance. they look brand new forever, last WAY longer cause the metal is protected.
2. Stainless - dont rust quite as easy as painted, but still change colors instantly
3. Painted - garbage. look good for first 5 minutes. after first winter they start rusting

All of this.

badfish888 · Jul 6, 2010

And im a proud puddle pirate!!!!

badfish888 · Jul 6, 2010

and also, i love this forum to much to **** people off, and im sorry if i offended anyone.

Off_Road_Teacher · Jul 6, 2010

badfish888 said:
well, its getting close to the time for me to get my headers. I have decided on shorties because of the ease of the install and i dont have the funding for the custom fab work of long tubes. But i do have a few questions for the ram gods on the best ram forum........

A: best to worst header coatings, "stainless" "ceramic" etc. and y
B: are all brands pretty much the same hp gain

THANKS Forum is awsome BTW

Do LT's. You will get more out of them and you can do the job with zero fab work.

RubberFrog · Jul 6, 2010

badfish888 said:
and also, i love this forum to much to **** people off, and im sorry if i offended anyone.

Don't worry about it man. You made a joke, somebody said their piece and we all moved on. Right guys?

badfish888 · Jul 6, 2010

Thanks Frog, just dont wanna make anyone mad over something stupid, As for the long tubes being "no fab work. Can i still use the factory cats? or will they not slip fit to clamp? and if i need to move the cats back wont the wires on the 02 sensors not reach? Long tubes would be pretty bada$$ specialy cause my exhaust already screams and i was looking into that remote raceland cutout

RubberFrog · Jul 6, 2010

If you have smog check where you are, forget LTs.

Off_Road_Teacher · Jul 6, 2010

badfish888 said:
Thanks Frog, just dont wanna make anyone mad over something stupid, As for the long tubes being "no fab work. Can i still use the factory cats? or will they not slip fit to clamp? and if i need to move the cats back wont the wires on the 02 sensors not reach? Long tubes would be pretty bada$$ specialy cause my exhaust already screams and i was looking into that remote raceland cutout

The factory cats will not work, but if you buy some high flows they will slip right onto the header colelctor and then the y-pipe can fit onto the high flow. That is how I did mine and it took no fabbing at all, just remove the old and put in all the new.

truckin151 · Jul 6, 2010

Hey you can get the stock cats to work.... Did it with mine.... BUT it requires a bit of fab work to get them to work right.

Trupiano · Jul 6, 2010

If I were you, I'd go with the pacesetter LT's Ceramic Coated. You'll love the extra power, and they sound great. Only modification needed is splice your rear O2 wires/or buy extenders, and cut a small tab off the transmission (takes 10 seconds). DO IT DO IT!

Im proud to be in the Chair Force!!

Yeah Im also a pround AF member! Hate when we get called the chair force... cause I swear, my job lets me sit in a chair about 30 seconds out of each day, to check my email and thats it. But hell, it's pretty funny and to each there own. Im all about branch to branch rivalries. Keeps it fun and competitive!

johnnysart · Jul 6, 2010

I have the jba ceramic coated shorties and they still look brand new. have had them for over 3 years.

Hemiguy0302 · Jul 6, 2010

either way I have seen vehicles run both stainless and ceramic coating. Ceramic coating also lowers under hood temp and it will resist discoloring. My money goes to ceramics but if you can get a good deal on stainless ones that you like better then cool that should work as long as you do not mind the discoloring.

badfish888 · Jul 7, 2010

smog.......if thats emissions then i guess there a no go, and how would longer headers make an emmisions different if the exhaust still has to go through te cats, will i pass with shorties?

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