Need info to understand Throttle Body adjustments

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OK so I have looked around googleing the thing and can't find a clean and crisp explanation of what I am looking for.

Should the butterfly in the throttle body be tightly closed when at idle?

If I remove the throttle body and hold a light behind it I can see a tiny shine at both the top and bottom. A few thousands of an inch maybe at most. I was under the impression that the butterfly should be tight shut and that the IAC would take care of the rest.

While I was doing some maintenance on the truck last weekend, I noticed there was a lot of corrosion on the TB adjustment screw. So I took a gentle scuff pad and cleaned up everything. However I still see some light in there and just want to make sure it is expected or do I need to fiddle around with the screw until everything comes to a tight seal allowing the IAc to take care of the idle on its own.

There was about 1/8" of carbon deposits on the IAC and its seat in the TB, which I have gently cleaned out. The truck still runs fine but has the rough idle it has had ever since I bought it a few months ago. I have to hook up my OBDII tool to get a reading on the TPS which I guess would give me my answer right?

Am I making any sense here or just confused and confusing... :insane:
 

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Not really sure but at idle if it were tightly shut I would assume it wouldn't be getting air... just a non mechanics thought lol
 
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I would think the IAC (Idle Air Control) would be taking care of that since it has a bypass conduit to the butterfly and it needs to adjust the airflow required to maintain a stable idle. I'm thinking if the TB is not tightly closed, that it may skew the IAC's function. Combined with a possibly defective or inaccurate or plainly screwed-up TPS, that would make the engine go real bad or greatly affect gas mileage which is one of my issues (It is a pig on gas, more so than others with the same engine).
 

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When I cleaned my tb a few weeks ago I remember it not seeming tight but i didn't do a light check so I'm not 100% sure
 

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On shut down the throttle body butterfly will be left slightly open. This facilitates a higher idle for cold engine start, and will hold the idle up, even on a restart, until engine stabilizes. If the butterfly tightly closed in the throttle body bore, it could get stuck, preventing proper operation of the throttle, especially for trucks that have throttle-by-wire operation.
 
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Thank's Harrold, that makes sense.

Do you know how that translates to the TPS reading? My TPS shows a 9.8% open when in the closed position. The service manual only states expected voltage. I'm getting the 9.8% through a Bluetooth OBDII and multiple Android OBD Apps (TorquePro, OBD Car Doctor, Etc.).

Anyone else have similar readings for their 4.7L?
If I'm in the Ball park, I won't be chasing a ghost for nothing.

Thank you everyone for your input.
 
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