Need pics of drivers bilstein spring clocked

[2010 Infantry Vet]

My coul springs are still bowed and hitting my spindle on my drivers side, please post top and bottom pics of where your spring isolaters are, so i know which way to clock them. Thanks. This is how mine are clocked now, with spring bowed touching spindle while jacked up and tire off. Top left side of strut end of spring is almost in line with left side hat bolt. Bottom spring end is in line with bilstein mounting bolt.

I already tried reclocking the spring once.

 

[G-Ride990]

Will 2.8 setting be okay? I'll take pics of mine now if you would like. I'm not lifted like you are though.

Edit: Because I'm not lifted the ends of the springs on the top mount are hidden by the frame. My springs seem to be clocked to the inside of the frame rails. As if both are facing each other. Obviously not exactly though.

First pic is driver's side. Clocked at 6 o'clock

Second pic is passenger side clocked at 3 o'clock.

I included a pic of the top mount. I felt around and couldn't tell where the top was at.

 

[2010 Infantry Vet]

Will 2.8 setting be okay? I'll take pics of mine now if you would like. I'm not lifted like you are though.

Edit: Because I'm not lifted the ends of the springs on the top mount are hidden by the frame. My springs seem to be clocked to the inside of the frame rails. As if both are facing each other. Obviously not exactly though.

First pic is driver's side. Clocked at 6 o'clock

Second pic is passenger side clocked at 3 o'clock.

I included a pic of the top mount. I felt around and couldn't tell where the top was at.

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Thanks man, I should have been more specific. I will need to see where the top of the spring is clocked with a 6” lift with bilsteins. Cant see it in a non lifted pic unfortunately.

 

[ThunderMug95]

From looking at the shots of both of yalls, they are clocked the same at the bottom of the spring. So the top should be the same. Vet, it almost seems your springs are somehow not compressed enough to keep them from bowing. Its weird....

 

[ThunderMug95]

Or the seat is warped or bent on either top or bottom to allow it to flex. Maybe Im just bent...

 

[G-Ride990]

Do you have oem springs? If our springs are the same you should be able to tell where the upper spring end is based on the lower? And your original post was plenty clear, just trying to help. Didn't think of the top of the coil would be hidden in the frame until I was already under the truck taking pics haha.

I will get a mirror out tomorrow and try and see if I can tell where the tops are rotated. I am pretty dang sure they are pointing towards each other. I can't think of a reason ours would be different. Yours just has the spacer on top on the strut that mine doesn't.

Where's JB1 at??? I know he's not running 5100s though. Maybe they are the same with orientation though?

Wish I could help more. You're a damn beast messing with this stuff while your leg is still recovering lol.

 

[JB1]

You may be right, that lower spring perch doesn’t look perpendicular to the shock body, take a close look am I seeing things


Here’s a few pics of mine, keep in mind they are 6112’s and have a billet lower mount and special coil spring.

 

[ThunderMug95]

Something is off with that spring... it should be a mirror image of passenger side. Ive seen a jeep once where the upper seat kinda collapsed and let it bow out like that. Angle was off. Sorry to keep chiming in, but its raised my curiousity...
Vet have you really stuffed that corner offroading? Like hard enough to bottom it out. Maybe kinked the coil?

 

[ThunderMug95]

JB. Your dead on. That thing is cockeyed for sure. Snap ring slipped on one side or broken maybe.? It is DEFINITELY sitting at a different angle.

 

[G-Ride990]

Something is off with that spring... it should be a mirror image of passenger side. Ive seen a jeep once where the upper seat kinda collapsed and let it bow out like that. Angle was off. Sorry to keep chiming in, but its raised my curiousity...
Vet have you really stuffed that corner offroading? Like hard enough to bottom it out. Maybe kinked the coil?

Mine aren't quite mirrored though which is odd to me. But my fender gaps are even, and my alignment was well within factory specs. Wish I had a lift so I could post better pics.

 

[JB1]

Found this

 

[2010 Infantry Vet]

Yeah I mirrored my passenger side strut, the same on my deivers side. I had a shop compress my passenger side and install the bilsteins, but put it in myself.
When i did my drivers side, i didnt mark the spring before i compressed it. It was off, so i recompressed it, and reclocked it to how it is now.
I dont know what the hell is going on. Im pretty sure i have my drivers side clocked correctly. I havent had my truck aligned yet since installing my bilsteins, but hopefuly when i do, they can figure out what the hell is wrong.

 

[2010 Infantry Vet]

Found this

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So does that pic mean i dont have my spring clocked correctly? Thanks in advance

 

[JB1]

So does that pic mean i dont have my spring clocked correctly? Thanks in advance

I dunno, we need more pics from others

 

[JB1]

I still think it’s clocked wrong, looking at this it shows the start of the upper coil winding to be at the front center (point of the top hat shape) where the BJ is. Yours looks turned around towards the backside or say

http://www.ramforum.com/threads/coil-springs-rubbing-with-bilsteins.120876/






Here’s yours from pic above at the 9pm position needs to be at the 6pm position, like needs to be rotated counter clockwise 90deg






Hopefully we get more pics to make sure, hard to diagnose from computer lol

 

[stimpy433]

Just throwing this out there, cuz I don't know if it's possible, but is the spring in upside down maybe.... or doesn't matter???

 

[BackCountryAK]

Found this

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Hard to tell from the pic, but wouldn't that top mounting stud in the picture (furthest away of the three) actually be the one that's closest to the wheel/knuckle when mounted as that looks like the stud on the top hat with that specific point on the plate that is to face outwards? If that was the case, it would put the start of the coil on top facing inwards.

Guess I'm still trying to figure out the importance of clocking the spring correctly. Why does it matter so long as the bottom perch and top hat are compressing the spring correctly? When I did my 5100 install I made sure the bottom perch was clocked like the OEM but didn't mark the top as the instructions made no mention of that. I just assumed the top of the spring would be in the correct position along with the top hat since it can only cradle the spring one way.

 

[JB1]

Hard to tell from the pic, but wouldn't that top mounting stud in the picture (furthest away of the three) actually be the one that's closest to the wheel/knuckle when mounted as that looks like the stud on the top hat with that specific point on the plate that is to face outwards? If that was the case, it would put the start of the coil on top facing inwards.

Guess I'm still trying to figure out the importance of clocking the spring correctly. Why does it matter so long as the bottom perch and top hat are compressing the spring correctly? When I did my 5100 install I made sure the bottom perch was clocked like the OEM but didn't mark the top as the instructions made no mention of that. I just assumed the top of the spring would be in the correct position along with the top hat since it can only cradle the spring one way.

Yes, if the lower is clocked correctly then the top will be correct due to the coils windings, same as vice versa if the top is incorrect then the bottom will be incorrect too

If you look at photos 42-45 of the rough coutry installation procedure below, you'll clearly see the coil/strut is positioned as shown in the images I posted in my reply above

https://s3.amazonaws.com/roughcountry/install/92132900.pdf

Take a look at these instructions for a zone lift kit beginning page 14 and read step 49, they actually have you rotate it 180deg for the 4" to move the spring buldge so yes it can be clocked. He has a 6" RC therefore no rotation is necessary

http://4x4media.info/instructions/zon/D2612.pdf

Here's the bilstein instructions for reference

https://static.summitracing.com/global/images/instructions/BSN-E4-WM5-Y339A00.pdf

Now all that said....its possible he has something else going on, hard to diagnose an assembly issue from here LOL

 

[2010 Infantry Vet]

If you look at my spring as if you just pulled off the wheel, to the right of the spring, i clocked the bottom of the spring in line with the bottom strut mounting bolt. Which causes the top spring end to be to the left of the top hat, close to center.
Guys please verify this is how your 4” or 6” lifted bilsteins are.

 

[JB1]

What about the spring seat adaptor, that isn’t upside down is it?