Synthetic Oil

[Burla]

m1 fs 0w40 is 26 bucks at wally for 5 quart, kinda stupid good pricing imo. That would be the direction I'd go, drop that LG in too.

 

[Burla]

30-40% is pao base = m1 fs 0w40, decene is a known pao base oil.

So only m1 is gonna sell pao base oil 5 qrts for 26 bucks. Not all m1 formulas are great, but this one is.

this is stupid good

look at those specs!

 

[Burla]

decene bitog

Rick, instead of mixing I think I'd try that m1 0w40 fs.

it has to be the europen formula, unless travis has other pao m1 oil listed.

 

[HEMIMANN]

M1 if it's on sale is a pretty decent price at Canadiain Tire to.Right now the 4.73 litre jugs of Pup are about 39 bucks and Mobit 1 is 46 bucks for 5.73 litres. I'll go with which ever combo you guys think is best,as i'm not up on oils anywhere near as much,so i'm deferring to the experts,lol

M1 FS is what Travis mentioned, new in 5W-30.
Had been in 0W-40 and 5W-40.
Again, not for GDI motors, I think.

 

[Burla]

M1 FS is what Travis mentioned, new in 5W-30.
Had been in 0W-40 and 5W-40.
Again, not for GDI motors, I think.

both oils are SP, 0w40 is sn+, doesnt say 5w30 is but isnt SP good enough for lspi? No pao in 5w30, but those numbers are in 0w40. Either weight chalked full of great specs.

 

[HEMIMANN]

both oils are SP, 0w40 is sn+, doesnt say 5w30 is but isnt SP good enough for lspi? No pao in 5w30, but those numbers are in 0w40. Either weight chalked full of great specs.

SP ensures LSPI formula is what I recall. SN+ was interim.

Surprising anyone would make an SP oill spiked with ZDDP. I don't get that at all. Maybe little turbo GDI motors are wearing too fast.

 

[Burla]

zddp is a lspi quencher

 

[Burla]

moly as well, especially high moly.

 

[HEMIMANN]

zddp is a lspi quencher

Hmmm thought magnesium was the magic atom.

 

[Travis8352]

I consider Redline as the oil with a guarantee. It would be easy to just say, use Redline and forget about it. I'm tempted myself. However, where I live Redline isn't always available and therefore finding readily available, cheaper alternatives is a good idea.
I would just try it, keep the OCI short and have it tested to see the results. With the high moly, it might be a great contender. I would check the visco compared with an oil like PUP 5w30.

If i were you i would roll on with redline and when redline is not available when you need to change your oil pick mobil 1 FS 0w40

 

[Travis8352]

decene bitog

Rick, instead of mixing I think I'd try that m1 0w40 fs.

it has to be the europen formula, unless travis has other pao m1 oil listed.

Thats their highest PAO oil these days except for m1 racing 0w30 or 0w50

 

[Travis8352]

Hmmm thought magnesium was the magic atom.

The general rule is moly=positive zddp=positive calcium=negative magnesium=neutral

 

[HEMIMANN]

The general rule is moly=positive zddp=positive calcium=negative magnesium=neutral

I'll have to start looking at SP OA's...initially we were noticing the Ca vs Mg swap - I don't recall anyone seeing zinc or moly boosts.

 

[Black1500Ram]

M1 is often on sale on Amazon just paid $71US for 15 quarts.
Walmart usually has the 12 quart bag in a box in stores for $60.

I’ll send my 2 redline oil samples off when I do my oil change and keep you posted on the m1 + Lubeguard.

Any thoughts on adding more than 1qt since I’m using 0w40?

Redline is 71/11.9 cst at 40/100° C respectively.

M1 0w40 is 78/13.8 cst

 

[Burla]

I didnt read this thread, just first search result m1fs 0w40 in a ram, and it is ugly. I wanna say oil had nothing to do with it, but I wanna see more hemi uoas. For now still a ton of potential, maybe a total outliar? The oil looks outstanding, too bad this even exists.

 

[Black1500Ram]

I didnt read this thread, just first search result m1fs 0w40 in a ram, and it is ugly. I wanna say oil had nothing to do with it, but I wanna see more hemi uoas. For now still a ton of potential, maybe a total outliar? The oil looks outstanding, too bad this even exists.

Well my truck has already been through the cam and liftesrs and now has hellcat pump and performance springs sooo we’ll see what happens. UOA after every oc going forward should tell the story.

 

[Burla]

first uoa at bobs sheared into 10's in a kia 4k miles m1 fs 0w40.

definitely not di friendly either wth?

 

[knightjp]

I didnt read this thread, just first search result m1fs 0w40 in a ram, and it is ugly. I wanna say oil had nothing to do with it, but I wanna see more hemi uoas. For now still a ton of potential, maybe a total outliar? The oil looks outstanding, too bad this even exists.

Oh dear.. what does this mean for someone like me that is running M1 FS 0w40 in his engine right now.

 

[Travis8352]

first uoa at bobs sheared into 10's in a kia 4k miles m1 fs 0w40.

definitely not di friendly either wth?

Thats the old formula with lots of fuel dilution

 

[Travis8352]

I didnt read this thread, just first search result m1fs 0w40 in a ram, and it is ugly. I wanna say oil had nothing to do with it, but I wanna see more hemi uoas. For now still a ton of potential, maybe a total outliar? The oil looks outstanding, too bad this even exists.

My guess is it has to be coincidence That it happened when he switched oils. He did a couple more short ocis with different oils that showed elevated iron wear so he pulled the cam and lifters and found the cam not to be properly hardened.