before making claims that everybody is lying and everybody qualified for every rebate under the sun, you should probably take a step back and take a look at each persons situation ( whcih i know we really cant do on a truck forum ).
Its quite simple and I do agree that SOME may be exaggerating a little, but like some have said, there are very good deals to be had, and depending on the circusmtances, an absolutely incredible deal may have been obtained as well.,.
1) I know for a fact that some salesman and their sales "mangers" will apply rebates to lower the price of the truck, even if the buyer doesnt qualify for all of them.
2) As the price of the truck goes up, so will the wiggle room on the amount of money they are willing to come off the sticker price
3) Its all about timing and negatiating......end of story. Know your numbers and what you want. If not, walk........ Car salesman and dealerships are in business to make money, they know how to screw many buyers over ( impulse buyers, uneducated buyers and so on ) and they will get the most they can out of your wallet when it comes to buying a vehicle. If you dont have it in the back of your head exactly what terms you are looking for ( loan length, your interest rate based on your credit and how much money you expect off the sticker based on YOUR research and so on ) than you walk out of the dealership!! 18-21% off msrp seems to be a very good rule of thumb for these trucks. Remember, its all a numbers game. There are some limitations based on the areas that you live, some buyers may be able to a little better and some may do a little worse.
For the record, i got $10,500 off my 2015 Ram Sport CC 6'5 bed ( sticker $52.9k ). I also got full blue book trade in value for my 2010 Silverado. Now, if the dealer had given me $11k off my sticker and $500 less on my trade, i'd have been happy.....but as you see its a numbers game. I felt that in MY area ( Long Island NY....one of the highest cost of living areas in the country ), that i was not going to get the best deal in the world ( i was not going to get $11-12k off sticker ), but it didnt stop me from trying. Based on everything I read on this forum for 2-3 months of research, I wanted $10k off the sticker ( for trucks that were around $50k so ) and the best I could get for my trade in. One dealer had be at $2k under blue book for my trade and wouldnt budge. They also had me at $8.5k off sticker and also wouldnt budge. The dealership that i purchased from started off and left me at $9k off sticker and $21k for my trade in. It wasnt good enough for me, so i left. They eventually cracked on the second to last day of the month when i went back in and asked the sales manager "if he wanted to sell that $53k truck out there". I also told the salesman that i was working with that i was done with him and to find me somebody else ( long story, but it worked ). I eventually got them to the $10.5k off sticker and bumped up my trade to $22k. I also had the class IV trailer hitch ($400 option that somehow wasn't ordered on truck when it came out of the factory ) thrown in to seal the deal. I personally think i did well for my area. Did i get the greatest deal under the sun, no, but it was up there.