Quick drain oil plug

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I considered a fumoto valve but isn’t the OEM plug magnetic and doesn’t it collect shavings & grit???

I’d want to wipe that off to remove it from the pan (and entire equation).

Not sure a fumoto valve affords you that option.

The stock drain bolt is not magnetic, so if you lack the ability to use a ratchet to remove one bolt, or fear getting a little bit of oil on your fingers, you are free to go ahead and install the quick release valve.:cool:
 

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EZ valve has a integrated oring seal. These are the weirdest arguments ever... If you got a mechanic who's a **** who removes the valve even then how do that over tighten it? Its only accepts a wrench... not like a DRAIN BOLT which they USE IMPACT GUNS ON. The chances of over tightening a stock drain bolt is much higher when you let anyone do your oil changes. At least the drain valve would prevent over tightening and cause the **** mechanic to stop and think. But if your paying someone to do your oil then why GAF and make there life easier.

I think the drain bolt is over complicating things honestly. Crude, messy and we have the technology! The valves are just easier to operate once installed.

I'm doing my own changes, I just have read that people that take them in occasionally have had the mechanic take the valve off instead of turning it on to drain. Also some folks have damaged their drain pan when driving off road with the valve. But frankly I have no mess at all changing it by taking the bolt off.
 

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Added a VALVOMAX to my HEMI's a RAM and a 300. Did that in DECEMBER. At this point I would do it again. My problem now is reducing spillage removing filter. When you figure that one out let us know. I have tried many ideas posted. Still a work in progress for me.

That's where the Pentastar V-6 shines. Oil filter is on the top of the engine, you can even change the oil filter in between oil changes. Piece of cake.
 

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That's where the Pentastar V-6 shines. Oil filter is on the top of the engine, you can even change the oil filter in between oil changes.
Same goes for the EcoDiesel, oil filter cap sticks straight up.
The CTD you can buy a screw in plug for the oil filter to make it easier to remove without spillage.


As for a quick drain valve, you can buy clips that have to be removed before you can open them or wrap a tie wrap around them if accidental opening or someone tampering with them is a concern.
 

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I have a fumoto on my other truck because it has skidplates that would need to come off for an oil change otherwise. With the fumoto I can run a hose down and only spill a tiny bit on removing the filter.

Had a magnetic drain plug on my ram, last dealer oil change they threw it out and charged me $15 for a new OE plug, no explanation. So I don't go to that dealer anymore.
 

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I have a fumoto on my other truck because it has skidplates that would need to come off for an oil change otherwise. With the fumoto I can run a hose down and only spill a tiny bit on removing the filter.

Had a magnetic drain plug on my ram, last dealer oil change they threw it out and charged me $15 for a new OE plug, no explanation. So I don't go to that dealer anymore.

Might be because cleaning them can be difficult. Have to use an air hose and tiny metal particles fly everywhere. Also a big clump of particles can detach and cause problems.
 

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Brawny has invented a high tech solution to the problem of cleaning magnetic drain plugs, it's this roll of absorbent paper with perforations every few inches and you can tear off individual squares of the absorbent paper and use it to wipe the little beard of dust that the drain plug accumulates. Fascinating stuff.
 

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Brawny has invented a high tech solution to the problem of cleaning magnetic drain plugs, it's this roll of absorbent paper with perforations every few inches and you can tear off individual squares of the absorbent paper and use it to wipe the little beard of dust that the drain plug accumulates. Fascinating stuff.

I think many mechanics would not rather risk tiny particles getting on threads and stripping the pan, then getting blamed for it. Haven't had a magnetic drain plug in decades but remember just using paper towels to attempt to clean them is iffy. You think you got it all, but usually not. To each their own, but I don't blame the mechanic for tossing it and putting an OEM non-magnetic one on.
 

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I think many mechanics would not rather risk tiny particles getting on threads and stripping the pan, then getting blamed for it. Haven't had a magnetic drain plug in decades but remember just using paper towels to attempt to clean them is iffy. You think you got it all, but usually not. To each their own, but I don't blame the mechanic for tossing it and putting an OEM non-magnetic one on.

You are adding some far fetched ideas to this thread. Do you know what suspended metal particles in an oily paste is called? Anti-seize! It's actually used to prevent threads from galling and seizing. It's also really cool like the revolutionary Brawny pre-perforated paper sheets. Rumor is Bounty is hot on their heels though.

I bought a Fumoto valve to be able to drain an exact amount if overfilled or if I want to add a thicker oil or additive. Another advantage of the valve is the ability to run a hose down to a drain pan and avoid the wind slinging the narrow stream at the end of the drain period all over my driveway like another person mentioned.

The drain plug area even with Fumoto valve and extended nipple on it is way above the lowest point on the chassis. If you have a rock up that high most likely your oil pan is getting damaged as well.
 

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I think many mechanics would not rather risk tiny particles getting on threads and stripping the pan.

Way better to store those same particles in my crank bearings that make ~15million revolutions per oil change interval than have them get into my pan threads that make 6 revolutions per oil change interval - THAT's where they're going to cause damage! :005:


I think it could be argued that magnetic drain plugs don't actually extend the life of engines that are otherwise well maintained... after all, plenty of whole vehicles find their way into junkyards with running engines that never had a magnetic drain plug.

But it's pretty wild to make claims of harm done by magnetic drain plugs... especially considering how many vehicles have them from the factory in their diffs, transfer cases and transmissions. :deal:
 

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Way better to store those same particles in my crank bearings that make ~15million revolutions per oil change interval than have them get into my pan threads that make 6 revolutions per oil change interval - THAT's where they're going to cause damage! :005:


I think it could be argued that magnetic drain plugs don't actually extend the life of engines that are otherwise well maintained... after all, plenty of whole vehicles find their way into junkyards with running engines that never had a magnetic drain plug.

But it's pretty wild to make claims of harm done by magnetic drain plugs... especially considering how many vehicles have them from the factory in their diffs, transfer cases and transmissions. :deal:

These days most car/trucks have magnets in trans and diffs, which don't have frequent fluid/filter changes, but not in the engine oil pan. Just would rather my engine's ferrous metal particles land in the filter, not on the drain plug. Plus any aluminum particles won't be on a magnet.
 

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Oh, yeah all that loose aluminum in the engine with the steel cylinder liners.. :Big Laugh: must be the neighbor kids pouring it in there!
 

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These are ball valves...
i change my plug about 40,000 threds were warn a bit new one better then one it came with yes being the oil place once didnt tighten the filter 40 miles latter part cup of oil in street thank god light didnt come on but just caught it so wont trust some one open it part way like some a hole who dont care ! 5 stair place i give you ---- 5 * donnuts what dumb but bet still works there !
 

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i change my plug about 40,000 threds were warn a bit new one better then one it came with yes being the oil place once didnt tighten the filter 40 miles latter part cup of oil in street thank god light didnt come on but just caught it so wont trust some one open it part way like some a hole who dont care ! 5 stair place i give you ---- 5 * donnuts what dumb but bet still works there !
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I think he's saying:
He changed his oil plug at 40,000 miles.
The new one is better than than the OEM
One time the oil changing shop didn't tighten the oil filter
40 miles later the loose filter leaked a cup of oil on the street
He thanks God the light didn't come on
He caught it just in time
He won't trust anyone like the ******* who didn't care and left the filter loose
The shop had a 5 star rating
He bets the ******* still works there

I have no idea what 5 * donuts means
I think he had a different English/writing education than me
 

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*****... I think what he was trying to say is that he bought it to some place for an oil change and they didn't tighten the filter so now apparently he is nervous that someone will go under his truck and flip the lever but not scared that someone would undue the threads on his stock oil plug.
 

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