Taking delivery of new ram today, price to pay?*got truck under sticker, all is well!*

[BuschLatte420]

Expensive life lesson. You should have gotten a price locked in at the time of order. Koons is close to you and is doing 5% under invoice, resulting in closer to 4% under invoice once their fees are applied. Complain about negativity all you like, but you are going to pay thousands of dollars more by not doing your research ahead of time and not really understanding the rules of the game about buying vehicles.

Looking back yes this was a lesson getting drilled in my head, I never heard of koons, going to look them up to see where they are. As said previously here I was not in the correct state of mind with stress and what not to be sitting at a desk ordering a new vehicle out of frustration.

 

[BuschLatte420]

Expensive life lesson. You should have gotten a price locked in at the time of order. Koons is close to you and is doing 5% under invoice, resulting in closer to 4% under invoice once their fees are applied. Complain about negativity all you like, but you are going to pay thousands of dollars more by not doing your research ahead of time and not really understanding the rules of the game about buying vehicles.

The only koons I see is in West Virginia or Virginia

 

[BuschLatte420]

On another note, would it be better to lock out MDS via gear selector for break in period or let the truck and system do it’s thing, first vehicle with MDS, but in my mind I feel like all 8 cylinders should break in evenly? I do not care about fuel economy, purchased a 5.7 liter 8 cylinder to utilize all 8!

 

[Jeepwalker]

On another note, would it be better to lock out MDS via gear selector for break in period or let the truck and system do it’s thing, first vehicle with MDS, but in my mind I feel like all 8 cylinders should break in evenly? I do not care about fuel economy, purchased a 5.7 liter 8 cylinder to utilize all 8!

Now you've uncorked a topic that has been a source of a lot of debate. But I'm not sure about break-in specifically. Some say the engines get more oil in MDS mode.

 

[Mpgrimm2]

Congrats on the new truck!
Patriot Blue is a fantastic color!

 

[BuschLatte420]

Now you've uncorked a topic that has been a source of a lot of debate. But I'm not sure about break-in specifically. Some say the engines get more oil in MDS mode.

Seems weird, I just am still in the time where I believe in a easy to moderate first 500-1000 miles and changing the oil at 1000 miles. I’m my head figured it would be better if all 8 had the same ‘runtime’ for the beginning of life.

 

[BuschLatte420]

Congrats on the new truck!
Patriot Blue is a fantastic color!

Thank you! I was thinking about the delmonicao red or whatever but see those everywhere, I don’t see many blue and I had a few blue vehicles. Had to go with the blue.

 

[GTyankee]

That delmonico steak color looks god awful, especially when you park under those mall type lights.
it looks like a bad brown mixed with a bit of purple

 

[BuschLatte420]

That delmonico steak color looks god awful, especially when you park under those mall type lights.
it looks like a bad brown mixed with a bit of purple

For a man that likes darker red only, only red vehicle I would consider these days.

 

[GTyankee]

I once owned a Burgandy 1962 Ford
I never liked the color & delmonico red is just as ugly

My current Ram was a factory order
I ordered a Red Ram, no one had even seen a 2 X 2 image of the color Delmonico Red, i figured Red is Red.
I never thought that Red was Burgandy

I repainted it very quickly

 

[Docwagon1776]

The only koons I see is in West Virginia or Virginia

Yeah, they aren't next door but surely that's close enough to WNY to hop a 1 way flight or have a spouse/buddy drive you to save several thousand dollars, no? I tried to buy from Mark Dodge in Louisiana, but the truck sold while we were negotiating. I then went to order from Granger in Iowa, but Power Wagon can't be ordered at the moment. Both would have been a $100-$150 flight then drive home or have it delivered sort of event, but 5% under invoice is worth it. I ended up driving about 3 hours each way to buy my 75th anniversary PW. I don't know what your time is worth, but even a 14 hour day on the road for several grand is worth it to me. Plus I'll get to see something cool along the way, inevitably, because I always find something to entertain myself on road trips.

Most dealers suck and if you limit yourself to your immediate surroundings, unless you live by Mark Dodge, you're unlikely to get the best deal. Remember, he who cares least wins when it comes to negotiations. I gave my local dealers a chance to meet or beat the price I got out of town, none would come close.

When I bought my 75th PW I told them what I would pay before I drove there, assuming good condition. They gave me their price again, I said no. They asked to meet in the middle, I said no. They asked if my offer was my only offer and I said it was, and that somebody could come in there the next hour and give them exactly what they were asking, but I wasn't moving. If I didn't get my price, I'd just wait and order the 2023. I literally didn't care, I had not developed an emotional investment.

New cars, I don't even bother to negotiate in person. I buy cars like a fleet does. I send out bid requests. Granger, Koons, Gupton, etc. make it real easy now. They tell you up front what it'll be.

 

[Docwagon1776]

I once owned a Burgandy 1962 Ford
I never liked the color & delmonico red is just as ugly

My current Ram was a factory order
I ordered a Red Ram, no one had even seen a 2 X 2 image of the color Delmonico Red, i figured Red is Red.
I never thought that Red was Burgandy

I repainted it very quickly

Agreed on Delmonico. While I understand how subjective it is, I'd have to wrap a Delmonico truck.

1st choice colors IMO:
Flame Red, Hydro Blue, Patriot Blue, Olive Green Pearl

 

[GTyankee]

Is Hydro Blue, the same color as those perty Blue Mustangs that i see around my little town ?


Velocity Blue Metallic

 

[huntergreen]

They did not mention anything of fees like that, granted sales people are mostly shady the guy I was dealing with was more than happy to order the specific truck I wanted because none were on the lot even close & special orders were not something new to him. Yes I wish I would have negotiated before hand but unfortunately I was not in the buying a new vehicle state of mind, dealing with a lemon I had for the last year canceling warranty plans coming from another dealer before ending up at the one I placed a order with it didn’t slip my mind. Was used to the Toyota way where now you pay msrp & get a vehicle closest to what you want, not what you exactly want. If I can get some off msrp that would be wonderful, if not it’s a lesson learned the hard way. Ordering a special built vehicle I didn’t think I would have the room to negotiate price as it’s not something sitting on the lot that they want gone.

What did you order that is special that they can’t sell it on their lot if you don’t buy it ? Check for any rebates that might be available before you go in to get it. Shop around for interest rates. Is it legal in your state to have non refundable deposits ? Until you sign the dotted line, the price is negotiable. As you said, you remain in the drivers seat if your prepared to walk away.

 

[BuschLatte420]

Is Hydro Blue, the same color as those perty Blue Mustangs that i see around my little town ?

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Velocity Blue Metallic

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Patriot blue

 

[BuschLatte420]

What did you order that is special that they can’t sell it on their lot if you don’t buy it ? Check for any rebates that might be available before you go in to get it. Shop around for interest rates. Is it legal in your state to have non refundable deposits ? Until you sign the dotted line, the price is negotiable. As you said, you remain in the drivers seat if your prepared to walk away.

Fully loaded a truck most people buy for a base cheap truck

 

[jejb]

If you do go ahead & buy it
You can save about $1000 by buying an Extended Warranty through Zeigler, they sell the same MOPAR plan that your dealership will sell you, but at a large discount

Obtaining A Genuine Manufacturer Warranty Quote Is Easy!

Probably save even more if you go to Granger, as they are running a $50 over cost deal right now.

 

[Irishthreeper]

If anyone is selling $50 over cost you can bet there is “trunk money” involved…money the manufacturer gives back to the dealer.

 

[CAGEYAR]

You can save about $1000 by buying an Extended Warranty through Zeigler, they sell the same MOPAR plan that your dealership will sell you, but at a large discount

Obtaining A Genuine Manufacturer Warranty Quote Is Easy!

Good point. You can often get a genuine Mopar service contract cheaper online sold by Ram dealers around the country. Just make sure you are buying an actual Mopar contract backed by Stellantis and not some after-market service contract. Mopar contracts are exclusionary meaning they provide a short list of what is NOT covered with everything else covered. Exclusionary contracts usually cover more. Most if not all after-market service contracts are inclusionary meaning they list what is covered. Anything not on that list is not covered. Inclusionary contracts are usually cheaper but not always and cover less. Always and only buy a factory contract from Mopar. It's a shame Stellantis discontinued the Mopar lifetime MaxCare contract. It was expensive but worth the cost.

 

[turkeybird56]

Unfortunately I think so, but we will see. Can’t blame anyone but myself. In the end if the truck comes without issues and treats me well in the long run I would be greatful just for that it’s self these days.

DITTO, I doubt ne thing under MSRP< only hope for none of the "added" availability charges dealers have been tacking on. If U walk out the door with MSRP, and got the truck U wanted, U should be Very Very Happy. Future stuff: IMHO, never order anything on the blind than walk in with the poke and hope routine, U will get hosed. Always have a Price written in stone so U have a Point that U can try and lower, and not have a Dealer hose U.

Hopefully, U will come out all right in the deal, get and enjoy your truck and BE a Lil Wiser. All IMHO.....