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Also, would you recommend high idle during driving,
No. High idle can only be used when in park, intended for pre and post trip use.

If I turn it on after starting the motor it will run the engine at higher rpms correct, if engine temperature is under 200F?
If you turn it on when parked it will stay on until you shift into gear or turn it off, regardless of temp.

Final question regarding the exhaust brake. Yes, it can be used to bring up the RPMS.
Does not seem to be a question, but sure, the exhaust brake make bring up RPM. Should not kick it up to 1,000 or above when parked pre or post trip which is the high idle range.

how would I idle the engine on high without the use of the exhaust brake or cruise control if needed?
Your foot, a rock, a stick pressed against the seat and the petal.
 
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Wow: I have had a Cummins engine for 22 years and all that info confused even me. I have never had a engine problem from any Cummins I have owned. I also drove a diesel at work for 22 years so I have learned a few things about some wear and tear from the mechanics.
FIRST AND MOST IMPROTANLY is always warm your truck first. You can get in it and just go but never consider doing so unless its and emergency. When is it warm-easy to tell as there is a big SOUND difference between a cold idle and a warm idle, at least there has been on every diesel I have ever driven.
First I have never driven any of my diesel unless the were warmed up for a minimum of 5 minutes. That made the engine warm and put oil pressure where it needed to be. I plugged my truck in every time it was 40 or less outside. Yes I know it wasn't necessary as 33 degrees is the bench, but I like keeping my windshield thawed (engine heat rises and helps keep windshield clear of ice) and be able to almost instantly jump into my truck and go as it warms up much faster.
I also don't run the Jake Brake 24/7, instead I run it 12/7, meaning 50% of the time I'm in the truck as it is the BEST thing to keep cylinders clear of soot. That also helps with keeping your diesel from smoking in the future. When doing so it is PERFECTLY NORMAL to get a very slight and short-lasting cloud behind your truck as the soot is burnt off.
Next, The Jake brake gives you your high idle as it drops your gear to help slow you down ant that drop will give you at least another 1000 RPM if your over 40 and slowing. Hauling will also drive up your idle higher as highway driving will.
You should be enjoying this diesel for all it offers and not be intimated with it in anyway. These trucks are a awesome piece of machinery and designed for ease of use with little intervention. There is no more user friendly diesel than the Cummins.
 
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No. High idle can only be used when in park, intended for pre and post trip use.


If you turn it on when parked it will stay on until you shift into gear or turn it off, regardless of temp.


Does not seem to be a question, but sure, the exhaust brake make bring up RPM. Should not kick it up to 1,000 or above when parked pre or post trip which is the high idle range.


Your foot, a rock, a stick pressed against the seat and the petal.

Fresh out of rocks.....
 
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Wow: I have had a Cummins engine for 22 years and all that info confused even me. I have never had a engine problem from any Cummins I have owned. I also drove a diesel at work for 22 years so I have learned a few things about some wear and tear from the mechanics.
FIRST AND MOST IMPROTANLY is always warm your truck first. You can get in it and just go but never consider doing so unless its and emergency. When is it warm-easy to tell as there is a big SOUND difference between a cold idle and a warm idle, at least there has been on every diesel I have ever driven.
First I have never driven any of my diesel unless the were warmed up for a minimum of 5 minutes. That made the engine warm and put oil pressure where it needed to be. I plugged my truck in every time it was 40 or less outside. Yes I know it wasn't necessary as 33 degrees is the bench, but I like keeping my windshield thawed (engine heat rises and helps keep windshield clear of ice) and be able to almost instantly jump into my truck and go as it warms up much faster.
I also don't run the Jake Brake 24/7, instead I run it 12/7, meaning 50% of the time I'm in the truck as it is the BEST thing to keep cylinders clear of soot. That also helps with keeping your diesel from smoking in the future. When doing so it is PERFECTLY NORMAL to get a very slight and short-lasting cloud behind your truck as the soot is burnt off.
Next, The Jake brake gives you your high idle as it drops your gear to help slow you down ant that drop will give you at least another 1000 RPM if your over 40 and slowing. Hauling will also drive up your idle higher as highway driving will.
You should be enjoying this diesel for all it offers and not be intimated with it in anyway. These trucks are a awesome piece of machinery and designed for ease of use with little intervention. There is no more user friendly diesel than the Cummins.
Thank you, very helpful. I appreciate the advice.
 
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Ok, big serious question about a serious situation. How would you describe breaking in the motor? Sounds like it has to do with heat and combustion to seat the piston rings? Without hauling or towing, what are the recommendations to apply the load necessary to achieve this? Full throttle uphill? Is a Dyno really a good recommendation for this process?
 
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No. High idle can only be used when in park, intended for pre and post trip use.


If you turn it on when parked it will stay on until you shift into gear or turn it off, regardless of temp.


Does not seem to be a question, but sure, the exhaust brake make bring up RPM. Should not kick it up to 1,000 or above when parked pre or post trip which is the high idle range.


Your foot, a rock, a stick pressed against the seat and the petal.
.....Fresh out of rocks
 

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Per Mcnally institute-which I didn't know existed when I had my work trucks or first diesels, I went by my company's mechanics recommendations and the is as follows. First 500 miles up to 65 MPH max for any amount of time over 10 minutes and then drop to a lowers speed of 50-55 MPH for a few miles. This allows the engine cool down time, then at an even lower speed for a short time.
All this is easy to do by taking a short run on the beltway and returning home. After arriving home let it idle for a few minutes 2 maybe 3 minutes.
Hauling and towing is NOT recommended for the first 500 miles. It should also be noted to check your oil level after about 250 miles as a small amount of oil use is NORMAL.
Diesels do not like short trips. One because they usually don't get heated properly (allowing the oil to flow correctly) and two a great amount of water will accumulate in the exhaust. This cannot be evaporated unless the truck is hot. If you don't use your truck to drive across the street, but to drive 7 or 8 miles to the store I, me, and I based this only on my observations, has been OK as it apparently is hot enough to burn out the water. Remember thou, I keep mine plugged in under forty degrees and not in the summertime of course. I had a 2003 for 16 years using my truck this way and did not have to replace the exhaust due to rust.
The only replacement I have ever had to do was the power cord for the block heater (10-minute job) as the prongs corroded out.
 

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Sounds like it is way more truck than your needs require .Maybe you should think of returning to a half ton gas burner, diesels are mainly used as work horses and need a lot of care to keep them up. For some people on this site it’s second nature cause of prior experience.
I’d return to gas if I was not planning on working that diesel in the future . Lots of extra maintenance compared to gas engine , however if you are happy with it have fun and enjoy.
 
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Sounds like it is way more truck than your needs require .Maybe you should think of returning to a half ton gas burner, diesels are mainly used as work horses and need a lot of care to keep them up. For some people on this site it’s second nature cause of prior experience.
I’d return to gas if I was not planning on working that diesel in the future . Lots of extra maintenance compared to gas engine , however if you are happy with it have fun and enjoy.
Agreed, temperamental whiney diesel motors are alot of responsibility. Don't do this! Don't do that! Just thought what hell, why not get a diesel truck?! But, if I knew what I know now, maybe I would have made a different decision based on needs of a truck.....But you want to know my personal reasons I'm buying this workhorse??? No reason, except I needed to get out from purchasing my Hemi because I was getting buried! @ 20%! So I gave it back after a couple years and walked outside to view new trucks.......there was only one truck on the lot....mine!
2022 Tradesman 4x4 Cummins 6.7 engine @ 6.8%
Better deal yeah? Well soon after that I unwillingly started hearing about diesel engine requirements and procedures. It was this time...(currently) that I realized I have more truck then I need. $80,000 for a workhorse! Well, recently I thought...if you're going to purchase a truck and spend a large amount of money, might as well get a TRUCK! Whether I need it or not...incase I buy my girlfriend a horse or something. Thank you guys for all your suggestions and support! You are appreciated.
 

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The oil temperature and pressure are clearly visible in the truck and I've been researching normal operating temperatures to keep watch.
Those number values on the dash are not actual readings from sensors, they're arrived from algorithms in the ECM.
There is a low oil pressure switch that opens below 6-7psi that turns the low oil pressure light on.
If your working a diesel hard keep tabs on the EGT(preferably pre-turbo) and coolant temperature. Turbo boost pressure is another good value to determine how hard your working the engine.
 
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Agreed, temperamental whiney diesel motors are alot of responsibility. Don't do this! Don't do that! Just thought what hell, why not get a diesel truck?! But, if I knew what I know now, maybe I would have made a different decision based on needs of a truck.....But you want to know my personal reasons I'm buying this workhorse??? No reason, except I needed to get out from purchasing my Hemi because I was getting buried! @ 20%! So I gave it back after a couple years and walked outside to view new trucks.......there was only one truck on the lot....mine!
2022 Tradesman 4x4 Cummins 6.7 engine @ 6.8%
Better deal yeah? Well soon after that I unwillingly started hearing about diesel engine requirements and procedures. It was this time...(currently) that I realized I have more truck then I need. $80,000 for a workhorse! Well, recently I thought...if you're going to purchase a truck and spend a large amount of money, might as well get a TRUCK! Whether I need it or not...incase I buy my girlfriend a horse or something. Thank you guys for all your suggestions and support! You are appreciated.
Not wanting to sound mean or anything but if you paid 80k for a tradesman you sure made a salesman happy. They are about 55k new if you check around some.
 

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Agreed, temperamental whiney diesel motors are alot of responsibility. Don't do this! Don't do that! Just thought what hell, why not get a diesel truck?! But, if I knew what I know now, maybe I would have made a different decision based on needs of a truck.....But you want to know my personal reasons I'm buying this workhorse??? No reason, except I needed to get out from purchasing my Hemi because I was getting buried! @ 20%! So I gave it back after a couple years and walked outside to view new trucks.......there was only one truck on the lot....mine!
2022 Tradesman 4x4 Cummins 6.7 engine @ 6.8%
Better deal yeah? Well soon after that I unwillingly started hearing about diesel engine requirements and procedures. It was this time...(currently) that I realized I have more truck then I need. $80,000 for a workhorse! Well, recently I thought...if you're going to purchase a truck and spend a large amount of money, might as well get a TRUCK! Whether I need it or not...incase I buy my girlfriend a horse or something. Thank you guys for all your suggestions and support! You are appreciated.
Warm it up, drive it, enjoy it. Eventually you'll probably think about camping or boating, then you'll have the perfect truck for towing. Don't over think it.
 
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Those number values on the dash are not actual readings from sensors, they're arrived from algorithms in the ECM.
There is a low oil pressure switch that opens below 6-7psi that turns the low oil pressure light on.
If your working a diesel hard keep tabs on the EGT(preferably pre-turbo) and coolant temperature. Turbo boost pressure is another good value to determine how hard your working the engine.
I haven't worked the truck at all really . I'm probably under requirements
I randomly go through the screen to view all the filters, temperatures and such. All mine are barley used. So far my filters like fuel filter is at 97% good. Other filters the same 1 to 2 % used.
 

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I haven't worked the truck at all really . I'm probably under requirements
I randomly go through the screen to view all the filters, temperatures and such. All mine are barley used. So far my filters like fuel filter is at 97% good. Other filters the same 1 to 2 % used.
Both fuel filters are good for up to 15,000 miles, oil change interval is 12 months or up to 15,000 miles depending on how its used ( along with if your using a high % of Bio diesel) and the oil your using ( dyno or synthetic like Rotella T-6 and yes you can use 5w40 T-6 in your engine year round, IMHO if you using a lot of 20% Bio diesel use synthetic oil not dyno unless you like 5-7500 mile oil change intervals) as for warm up being your in warm CA let it idle for 1-2 minutes then drive at moderate speed for the first 1-2 miles, what's hard on your engine is not lettings it get up to full operating temps ( it can take 7-10 miles of driving to get it up to operating temp), as for engine break-in the easy way it to keep 1000 to 1500 of weight in the bed for 5K or tow a 7500 lb loaded trailer for 3-4K either way will help work the engine, diesel engine like to work hard, as for exhaust break unless hauling or towing I would put it on auto that way it will let you coast some when you take your foot of go fast pedal but if your on your brakes a lot to stop then try full exhaust brake. The above is MHO, YMMV...
 
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Both fuel filters are good for up to 15,000 miles, oil change interval is 12 months or up to 15,000 miles depending on how its used ( along with if your using a high % of Bio diesel) and the oil your using ( dyno or synthetic like Rotella T-6 and yes you can use 5w40 T-6 in your engine year round, IMHO if you using a lot of 20% Bio diesel use synthetic oil not dyno unless you like 5-7500 mile oil change intervals) as for warm up being your in warm CA let it idle for 1-2 minutes then drive at moderate speed for the first 1-2 miles, what's hard on your engine is not lettings it get up to full operating temps ( it can take 7-10 miles of driving to get it up to operating temp), as for engine break-in the easy way it to keep 1000 to 1500 of weight in the bed for 5K or tow a 7500 lb loaded trailer for 3-4K either way will help work the engine, diesel engine like to work hard, as for exhaust break unless hauling or towing I would put it on auto that way it will let you coast some when you take your foot of go fast pedal but if your on your brakes a lot to stop then try full exhaust brake. The above is MHO, YMMV...
I thought of loading the truck to achieve the break in recommendation. Thank you for all the advice. Day by day I'm starting to understand the Tradesman. Wow 12 months, 15,000 miles! That's a change in mileage for sure. I also hear its good to get the 1st oil change around 5000 miles?? Since I have the Tradesman in my driveway, I've decided to keep it. Problem is, my occupation doesn't need heavy payloads. 5000 miles is along time for me. I believe I average 20,000 a year. I'm only now learning about the Cummins motor. I've heard about the diesel trucks and their reliability, but never owned one. Truck doesn't have 300 miles yet. Curious what to do about my choice I've made. I mean, for instance, ther was only one new truck on the lot! Mine.
 
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2022 Ram Tradesman 6.7 cummins 4X4 turbo engine, brand new! What to do? Only 300 miles on the motor, she's brand new and needs your advice on propper operations and driving procedures. My 1500 Ram 5.7 HEMI seemed like any other vehicle to operate, same with my Dakota, but not this 6.7 Cummins Turbo 4X4!!!! I hear if I don't run the diesel motor properly I can cause harm to the engine! I don't even need this type of work truck, I don't tow or typically haul heavy loads, but I wanted the truck because I was getting screwed on my Ram Hemi and traded it in for this work truck. I typically drive around town like anyone else, using the freeway when needed. Is this a bad choice for me, or can I use this truck without all the hauling or towing???
I've been reading and watching videos about my new truck. I had no idea owning a diesel truck was so fricken complicated!
Engine high RPMs, idle up, idle down! Break in periods, under loads ect. I feel like I'm going to hurt the engine. Someone PLEASE inform me what to do! I drive like a grandma and I'm currently just below 300 miles on the motor. I've never ran the high idle, never had a payload and I feel like I'm doing it all wrong! Engine warm up, engine cooling. Why are these engines so complicated? I bought it because I hear they last forever, but I didn't know it requires so much attention.
The high RPMS...When? Just at start up? During driving? Cooling the turbo after driving? Everytime you turn the engine off? Even short distances? Payload or under load? What's it all mean??? Inform me on the important issues that I should pay most attention to. I typically drive slow or at the speed limit, is that good for the motor? I have tried the exhaust break, I like the way it gears down when letting off the acceleration, should it only be used while hauling or towing? Engine warm up temperature, high idle. I'm tired of being worried and confused. Should I break in the motor by taking the truck to a Dyno?? Please help me save a new truck! All advice is greatly appreciated.
Confusion leads many to buy a diesel. :)
 

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I thought of loading the truck to achieve the break in recommendation. Thank you for all the advice. Day by day I'm starting to understand the Tradesman. Wow 12 months, 15,000 miles! That's a change in mileage for sure. I also hear its good to get the 1st oil change around 5000 miles?? Since I have the Tradesman in my driveway, I've decided to keep it. Problem is, my occupation doesn't need heavy payloads. 5000 miles is along time for me. I believe I average 20,000 a year. I'm only now learning about the Cummins motor. I've heard about the diesel trucks and their reliability, but never owned one. Truck doesn't have 300 miles yet. Curious what to do about my choice I've made. I mean, for instance, ther was only one new truck on the lot! Mine.
I just got a 2022 Bighorn in March, I will do first oil change around 3K, I will be putting synthetic oil in as I've had very good luck using it in my 2006 for the 15.5 years I owned it, if you had the time and $$$ you could help break in your engine quickly with a 72 hours run by putting 2,000 weight in the bed and run it non stop ( except to refuel and eat) one way for 30 hours and then do the same on the return trip, I did this in my 06 never did use oil and it ran like a top until I sold it back in Jan.. One nice thing about having a Cummins in your truck is the higher resale value when you go to sell it, so long as its been taken care of and well maintained. So far with mine I have noticed that it is getting over 15 mpg mixed driving and it only has 1220 miles, I hand calculated over 18 MPG on trip home from dealer in Idaho driving speeds from 55 to 75 MPH...
 
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