2018 Tradesman vs Laramie payload

[Kev12]

Out looking at ‘18 models yesterday afternoon while my truck was at the dealership. Payload on Tradesman is roughly 2200lbs and payload on Laramie is 3100lbs. Both had the same Diesel engine... what gives? Another marketing tool to buy the more expensive tuck?

 

[BWL]

Out looking at ‘18 models yesterday afternoon while my truck was at the dealership. Payload on Tradesman is roughly 2200lbs and payload on Laramie is 3100lbs. Both had the same Diesel engine... what gives? Another marketing tool to buy the more expensive tuck?

Was one a dually. Tradesman is usually higher as it's a lighter truck

 

[Kev12]

Both were SRW

 

[14hemiexpress]

Then one was a 2500 and 1 was a 3500. The larmie will be a heavier truck so less room for payload than a tradesman a crew cab 4wd diesel will weight between 7500-8000lbs. The 2500 is limited by 10k gvw a 3500 srw will have roughly a Gvw of 11100 theres your 1k difference if they weigh 7800lbs if it's a 2500 theres your 2200lbs of payload 10k-7800lbs You jump to a 8klb truck due to increased interior weight of the larmie now take 11100-8000 theres your 3100lbs of payload. Only other thought would be 2wd vs 4wd and cab configuration if they both were 2500s.

 

[Deki]

Definitely 2500 vs 3500. My Laramie has less payload than any tradesman.

 

[Kev12]

Wonder why the Tradesman only getting the 9,000GVWR label?

 

[Jimmy07]

Wonder why the Tradesman only getting the 9,000GVWR label?

What models exactly were you looking at? All 2500 diesels in the US are 10,000 GVWR. 9900 in Canada. I don’t know if they offer 5.7 hemis on the 2018 2500s, but in 2017, a 2500 with the 5.7 had a GVWR of 9000lbs.

 

[Kev12]

I’ve looked at 5 different Tradesman past 2 days and the payload has ranged from 2090-2180Lbs(on the door jam sticker) When I decode the vin, they have all said 9,000GVWR. All diesels

 

[Kev12]

Looked at a Big Horn also, 2070 lbs. that’s low correct?

 

[AFMoulton]

Nope that is about right for a diesel 2500. The one with 3100 lbs was either a gasser 2500 or a 3500 diesel.

This is my truck with a gasser. 2500 4x4


Almost identically equipped 2500 4x4 but a Diesel.



2018 2500 6.4 4x4 4.10 Amsoil SS 0w-40, Softopper
Black Rhino Armory 18x9 +12mm
Cooper Stt MAXX LT295/70R18

2016 Durango 5.7 AWD 3.07 Amsoil SS 5W-30
1996 Nissan Altima 2.4 Amsoil SS 5W-30

 

[Kev12]

That’s hard to swallow. I tow a light 5er with my 2500 Hemi and right at payload, maybe a little over. I would be 100% over payload on the 2500 with the diesel. I would spend $50k on new truck but legally not able to tow a 9,000lb 5th wheel with my family of 4.

 

[Jimmy07]

I’ve looked at 5 different Tradesman past 2 days and the payload has ranged from 2090-2180Lbs(on the door jam sticker) When I decode the vin, they have all said 9,000GVWR. All diesels

Can you post a link to where you’re getting these numbers? Tradesman 2500s come STANDARD with 9000lb gvwr IF it has the 5.7 Hemi. Once you upgrade it to the 6.7 Cummins, it will have 10,000lb gvwr. What did the stickers on the doors say (not the sticker on the door jamb)?

 

[AFMoulton]

Yep, even with 6.4 Hemi it’s 10,000 GVWR.


2018 2500 6.4 4x4 4.10 Amsoil SS 0w-40, Softopper
Black Rhino Armory 18x9 +12mm
Cooper Stt MAXX LT295/70R18

2016 Durango 5.7 AWD 3.07 Amsoil SS 5W-30
1996 Nissan Altima 2.4 Amsoil SS 5W-30

 

[Kev12]

I got the numbers off the door stickers(true payload). All 5 ranged from 2090-2180 lbs. that’s all the numbers I looked at

 

[ronheater70]

Diesel 2500 is useless in terms of Payload.. If you look at diesels look no less than a 1 ton. Of course the 2500 will pull the same mountain the 1 ton will!

Shameful cause many 1/2 tons have numbers surpassing that now.

 

[22hemi13]

Diesel 2500 is useless in terms of Payload.. If you look at diesels look no less than a 1 ton. Of course the 2500 will pull the same mountain the 1 ton will!

Shameful cause many 1/2 tons have numbers surpassing that now.

 

[mohemipar]

2500 is a lot about keeping the extra costs of ownership down that come with registering at the higher GVWR. Especially bad in certain states. It is not really a reflection on the capabilities of the truck. You get leafs in the 3500 but coils can be just as capable if designed right. The ones on 2500 seem to handle weight exceptionally. Ram engineers themselves even said they can do anything they want with coils. Everything else about the trucks is pretty much identical until you go up to 4500 and 5500.

Ram did a great thing IMO with the 2500 and gave it coils. They are capable but give the truck a softer ride. I find mine the best riding HD truck I've ever been in and actually really like the way it feels. Even empty I have no issues with the ride and actually prefer the stout feeling of it to the uber smoothness of the 1500. With the 6.4 my door sticker rates the truck for 3,010 pounds.

 

[BWL]

The axle ratings on the truck is what matters so your trailer can only put X lbs on the truck. As far as trailer goes it's a licensing thing. Over a certain weight you get into inspections, higher licenses etc. I drove a 1999 F350 SRW licensed at 14,500KG GVW and was completely legal. That truck is nowhere near as strong as the new 1tons. I frequently see SRW diesels licensed at 16500KG GVW for commercial carriers in all makes. Although a 1500 may have similar tow ratings off the lot, you wouldn't even try to run those weights on a 1500, while a 3500 has no trouble with it.

 

[Jimmy07]

That’s hard to swallow. I tow a light 5er with my 2500 Hemi and right at payload, maybe a little over. I would be 100% over payload on the 2500 with the diesel. I would spend $50k on new truck but legally not able to tow a 9,000lb 5th wheel with my family of 4.

This is why the payload number doesn’t matter. All that number is is what’s left over when you subtract the weight of the truck from it’s gvwr. RAM offers a class 2b truck (2500) for marketing purposes. Class 2b trucks are limited to 10,000lb gvwr. They could build a truck entirely out of titanium that weighs 9,999lbs and is capable of handling a million pounds, but if they want to sell it as a class 2b truck, it will still have a payload of 1 lb. Now, the 2500 with the Cummins weighs roughly 1000lbs more than the gasser 2500, which is why the payload is less. BUT...most of that weight is over the front axle, so why wouldn’t you be able to put the same amount of weight over the rear axle between the two. That’s why you go by your axle and tire weight ratings. Lucky for us, FCA doesn’t write legislation, and there are no laws against being over payload for non commercial recreational haulers, As long as you are within the weight that you registered your vehicle for.