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2019 3500 CTD HO 4x4 Crew Cab SRW and 16500 lb 5th Wheel

Discussion in 'Towing & Hauling' started by Blazin383, May 20, 2020.

  1. Blazin383

    Blazin383 Senior Member

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    I'm new to the Ram diesel and have a question regarding towing my new 5th wheel. I traded my 15 Ram 2500 6.4 Hemi w/4:10 for a 2019 Ram 3500 HO Cummins single rear wheel.
    Until this weekend my toy hauler was a 26' tow behind that the Hemi pulled just fine, but the Cummins scoffs at. That trailer, loaded with gear and a 1700 lb side by side tipped the scales at about 10,500 lbs. However, on our way home to WA from Moab last weekend we made the mistake of stopping in UT and buying a new 40' Torque 371 5th wheel that weighs about 14,500 empty with a pin weight of 3200 lb. Obviously the weight will only go up from there with toy, fluids and lots of stuff!
    I'm preparing the truck in anticipation of driving back to UT this weekend to pick up the trailer. I'm in the process of getting a B&W flip over ball hitch installed in the truck, and have decided to go with the Andersen hitch because of the overwhelmingly positive reviews and it's light weight. My payload rating is 3633 so I know the payload limit is getting real close.

    Is this trailer too much for the single rear wheel 3500?
     
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    MADDOG Cummins Driver Administrator Supporting Member Military

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    Yup...you might be over because it appears you haven't included the weight of gear, hitch, passengers and other stuff inside the truck with the pin weight of the trailer. It all counts as payload weight.

    You've added a ton, literally a ton - 2000 pounds of tow weight - before you even add any gear to the trailer as well.

    Another thing to note is the pin weight calculation. Is that max pin weight or is that pin weight of the trailer when it's empty?

    What is your trailer's Gross Vehicle Weight Rating?
     
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    Your payload is only 3600? I have a 3500 Laramie mega cab SO and mine is 4200.
     
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    The Aisin in the HO is like 150lbs more. Not sure what the rest would be.
     
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    I'm assuming the 3200 lb advertised pin weight is the empty figure. Will putting a 1700 lb side by side hanging behind the axles take any weight off the pin?
     
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    My truck is a loaded Limited version, and apparently all that bling must be heavy!
     
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    When I bought new in 2014 the payload for the diesel was quite a big lower than the 6.4 because of the added weight of the engine.
     
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    that’s always been crazy to me how the added features take so much off the payload. The only feature I don’t have would be the moonroof.
     
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    That would make sense
     
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    Take the rig to a CAT scale and get the actual numbers for each axle with your normal load of stuff. Only way to know for sure all the effects of water / waste, and stuff inside the trailer being either in front of or over the axles and the SXS, tool box, etc slightly over or behind the axles. All of those factors will affect the pin weight.
     

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