Any devices that could be tracking vehicle location? (For privacy reasons)

[jejb]

You just keep believing yourself but it happens every day..

I don't have to believe myself. I believe my results.

 

[lordzeus]

Depending upon where you purchased vehicle, or whom, there could be a 3rd party tracker wired into vehicle under dash without you even knowing, that is done more by 3rd party vendors than dealerships.

Yep, I did some digging and didn't find lojack or anything. Looked at fuses/battery too to make sure nothing was obviously tapped in. Looks clean. I bought from a mom and pop ram dealer just outside of Houston TX so should be alright. But you're definitely right.

 

[lordzeus]

You work for a IT company and your worried about the tracking on a veh? Your phone shares more information about you than your truck ever will and their is no way on your phone you can ever shut it all off. Go have a conversation with someone about something you have never talked about before and then look at all the adds on the websites and FB and see what pops up.. 100% what you were just talking about will be in their..

I know in newer veh manufacturers are looking at geofencing so they know when the veh hits the dealer for repairs and how long its their to make the dealers more accountable.

Yes, that's pretty common with most peoples phones. You can't go off grid unless you leave the phone at home, but you can minimize what you give. Not to dive into the weeds, but I use a google pixel with a custom privacy OS (grapheneos) to minimize my footprint. Of course I still ping cell towers etc, but at least I'm closer to being free. As free as one can nowadays.

I'm a very small minority of people who go to this extreme, but any small step matters for me.

 

[Magfan2]

I do have a blocking wallet, a gift, but I carry several cards in a stack. I have been told that makes skimming impossible. Either way, O.K. till some restaurant server walks off with your card to pay your bill! A strange time!

 

[lordzeus]

That's 100% a marketing gimmick. There are zero confirmed cases of RFID scanning of cards for fraud/criminal purposes. One, the distance NFC chips can can be scanned at is very very close, like a few mm if in your wallet and a few cm if open air. Two, the information is encrypted and is useless without the processing network "talking" to the chip as you read it. The encryption also resets every transaction, each time you tap to pay it's a one time code.

I mean, if you like the wallet otherwise, NBD, but it's not a feature that actually does anything or is worth paying extra for.

Well as far as your debit/credit card, this is usually the case yes. However, with debit/credit cards, it's encrypted and even if you scan it with a NFC reader, you won't get the full info. You'll get the CC number, but not the expiration or the CVV. I know this firsthand from owning a flipper zero and diving into this a bit. I run a RFID blocking wallet anyways just to be sure.

However, this is stories (and doorbell footage) of people using RFID antennas to boost signal from your vehicle and key, in order to get that relay the signal and jack the truck. It's pretty cool tech, but it's scary. I use a faraday box at home and just leave the keys in it at night. Completely stops this attack.

Example in action: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ri1uK7nbpK4

 

[Docwagon1776]

Well as far as your debit/credit card, this is usually the case yes. However, with debit/credit cards, it's encrypted and even if you scan it with a NFC reader, you won't get the full info. You'll get the CC number, but not the expiration or the CVV. I know this firsthand from owning a flipper zero and diving into this a bit. I run a RFID blocking wallet anyways just to be sure.

However, this is stories (and doorbell footage) of people using RFID antennas to boost signal from your vehicle and key, in order to get that relay the signal and jack the truck. It's pretty cool tech, but it's scary. I use a faraday box at home and just leave the keys in it at night. Completely stops this attack.

Example in action: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ri1uK7nbpK4

Yeah, the key fob thing is different for a few reasons, most importantly that it's reading info from both sides of the "conversation" so it's getting the key to break the encryption.