Catch can —-> Max Care Warranty

[SteveRG]

Does anybody know if installing a Catch Can will in anyway violate the Max Care lifetime warranty?


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[NoveskeFan]

Short answer is yes, anything not OEM can void the plan. Here’s a thread I started last week, make sure to read ramcares posts:

https://www.ramforum.com/threads/question-for-ramcares.125482/

 

[H1Chester]

Short answer is yes, anything not OEM can void the plan. Here’s a thread I started last week, make sure to read ramcares posts:

https://www.ramforum.com/threads/question-for-ramcares.125482/

SMH Not true. PLEASE do your research!

Google Magnuson Moss Warranty Act!

 

[NoveskeFan]

SMH Not true. PLEASE do your research!

Google Magnuson Moss Warranty Act!

Magnuson Moss apparently only applies to the initial warranty. The extended service plan is governed as a contract under the terms outlined in the plan agreement.

“THE PLAN WILL NOT COVER, OR APPLY TO LOSS OR EXPENSE RESULTING FROM: 9 (i) modifications not approved or recommended by the manufacturer”.

My take is they wont necessarily void an extended care plan if they see something aftermarket installed, but if a factory part fails with an aftermarket part attached to it, it then gives them an out.

 

[SteveRG]

Does that include a Flowmaster muffler?


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[chrisbh17]

Magnuson Moss apparently only applies to the initial warranty. The extended service plan is governed as a contract under the terms outlined in the plan agreement.

“THE PLAN WILL NOT COVER, OR APPLY TO LOSS OR EXPENSE RESULTING FROM: 9 (i) modifications not approved or recommended by the manufacturer”.

My take is they wont necessarily void an extended care plan if they see something aftermarket installed, but if a factory part fails with an aftermarket part attached to it, it then gives them an out.

This is how i take it... And if the cam or lifters wipe out, could they say the modification to the lubrication system caused it?

I won't risk it, myself.

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[Pull Ya]

It seems like the Max care and the regular factory warranty are two different animals with two different sets of restrictions. My advise is to read them both carefully before you make a decision. The Federal Law may protect you on one of them and may not protect you on the other one. "Pay your money and take your chances"
Jay

 

[chrisbh17]

It seems like the Max care and the regular factory warranty are two different animals with two different sets of restrictions. My advise is to read them both carefully before you make a decision. The Federal Law may protect you on one of them and may not protect you on the other one. "Pay your money and take your chances"
Jay

Correct.

I would consider the oil catch can an aftermarket modification under that contract. Whether they void the WHOLE thing because of it, or just choose not to cover oil-related failures, I dont know.

What Im more interested in is if the whole aftermarket part clause includes oil FILTERS as well. Because I much prefer taking care of my vehicles with good oil and filters...unless the Mopar filter is better than Fram Ultra or RP full synthetic, are we penalized for choosing a higher quality option?

 

[Pull Ya]

It seems they choose their vendors based on low bid instead of top quality parts.
Jay

 

[HammerHead]

SMH Not true. PLEASE do your research!

Google Magnuson Moss Warranty Act!

Magnuson Moss does not apply to Lifetime Maximum Care warranty. The manufacturer is under FCA US LLC and the Lifetime Maximum Care warranty is under FCA Service Contracts LLC; two different legal entities with two different warranty/contracts agreements/conditions. The Lifetime Maximum Care warranty starts when the manufacturer warranty ends; per the Lifetime Maximum Care warranty contract if a third party does maintenance on your vehicle you Must keep all recipes to Prove proper fluids/parts were used. I spoke with a Lifetime Maximum Care warranty representative and asked if I could use a better/aftermarket oil filter and they said "All parts used must have the manufacturer part number". So, basically no. If you use an aftermarket part and get caught, it could void you Lifetime Maximum Care warranty, but that has nothing to do with your manufacturer warranty.

 

[HammerHead]

But, a catchcan can be removed in about 15 minutes.

 

[chrisbh17]

But, a catchcan can be removed in about 15 minutes.

2 things:

1. as long as you get the z-bracket one, sure
2. if they see the catch can on, even during the standard factory warranty, can they then void your MaxCare warranty? or note it, so taht once out of factory warranty they can void MaxCare if you ever come in with a lubrication related issue?

And I find it ironic that we do these things to make our truck last longer without needing fixes....which actually helps keep their warranty costs lower. Yet it can still void the whole thing.

 

[Pull Ya]

Makes the Max Care warranty look not very attractive, especially if you want to use anything than other than Mopar parts. That's lots of money to lose over a catch can or an oil filter or different shocks etc etc for example.
Jay

 

[22hemi13]

Well I don’t have the Chrysler aftermarket warranty. I did purchase an aftermarket warranty that “covers everything” it says. I had front hub go out and they replaced it no issues whatsoever. Has bigger than stock tires and I was waiting for that to be an issue. But I’m still hoping and praying nothing else goes wrong cause I just don’t want to have to scream and yell cause it won’t be covered haha. Man these dealerships are such a pain

 

[HammerHead]

Makes the Max Care warranty look not very attractive, especially if you want to use anything than other than Mopar parts. That's lots of money to lose over a catch can or an oil filter or different shocks etc etc for example.
Jay

I agree, only thing I want to do is use a better oil filter. Seems silly to me we aren't allowed to use better products. I understand from a modding stand point, but not from a general maintenance stand point.

 

[Wild one]

The Hellcat/Demon etc have a factory air/oil separator installed,which is a glorified catch can,wonder if you ran that past your warrenty representive if that would change their tone about a catch can.

 

[Ramnewbie]

The Hellcat/Demon etc have a factory air/oil separator installed,which is a glorified catch can,wonder if you ran that past your warrenty representive if that would change their tone about a catch can.

Probably not, anything aftermarket would deffinately be an inferior product in their eyes.

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[William Hastings]

Damn, ive read a lot of posts here about catch cans, seemed to be one of the best, most popular mods. This is the 1st thread that has me thinking twice and making me nervous. I just installed mine yesterday and it can be pretty easily removed just incase. Has anyone actually had a dealer notice their cc and say anything about it? How will you guys handle services, remove it before you go?

 

[HammerHead]

Damn, ive read a lot of posts here about catch cans, seemed to be one of the best, most popular mods. This is the 1st thread that has me thinking twice and making me nervous. I just installed mine yesterday and it can be pretty easily removed just incase. Has anyone actually had a dealer notice their cc and say anything about it? How will you guys handle services, remove it before you go?

I would, especially if you have the Lifetime Maximum Care warranty. But in my opinion it's one of the best mods you can do.

 

[Kinetic]

The only reason warranty companies restrict any modifications is so they can void a certain amount of the warranties and thus not have to honor them, therefore saving themselves money.

Let's all remember that insurance and auto warranties are both the same, they will do whatever they can to not have to pay to fix something, find any loophole, any reason. basically they act like your friends when they want you to buy but they are in no way, shape or form, your friends or here for you when you need them the most if they can get away with not paying.