don't fall for it recall 67a

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Oh ten year warranty, or 4 year if your truck is old great, until you look at what it warrants.

If you are dumb enough to get this recall, all you are going to do is gum up your system by forcing more DEF in your exhaust stream. This horrible recall puts your entire engine at risk. From turbo to tail pipe is at greater risk, they will have you believe that you will look like the Marlboro man if you get this done, but in reality you will look like Beavis and Butt-Head.

their new trick because not enough of you fell for it with the free Cummins gym bag is a great extended warranty and warrants like absolutely nothing that is going to break.
 

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Marketing smoke and mirrors. Stellantis spelled like (circus). You gotta be smarter than the average bear but ppl believe all the marketing. Just IMHO.
 

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Oh ten year warranty, or 4 year if your truck is old great, until you look at what it warrants.

If you are dumb enough to get this recall, all you are going to do is gum up your system by forcing more DEF in your exhaust stream. This horrible recall puts your entire engine at risk. From turbo to tail pipe is at greater risk, they will have you believe that you will look like the Marlboro man if you get this done, but in reality you will look like Beavis and Butt-Head.

their new trick because not enough of you fell for it with the free Cummins gym bag is a great extended warranty and warrants like absolutely nothing that is going to break.

I have read post of a few who did get the 67a done and they stated they were happy they did so as the extra warranty paid off when a covered part broke, they also state that after the update the engine used less EGR, the down side it used more DEF fluid, as I understand it less EGR means less dirty oily exhausted is pushed/pulled back in to the engine, I have no horse in that mess, I can only pass on what those who did so have reported/posted...
 

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Never ever let them do a recall or update,until you're researched the living hell out of said recall or update.
In alot of cases once done,it can't be reversed,so word to the wise do your research first,if you don't it might very well bite you in the rear.
 
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That's right, do a search. This doesn't benefit you in anyway and the horror stories are plentiful, so why put your truck at risk? Today your truck is running great and tomorrow after recall it wont be and the dealers cant do anything about it and your warranty is long gone, and read the warranty you get. Dealers aren't or cant help you, get the recall and then go out of pocket for the repair if you can get it. Just don't fall for their gimmicks. just be informed before you make a decision nobody cares about your truck, your exposure, your pocket book, your feelings when their mistake costs you, except you, but then guess what? What? Its too late.

Its a software recall and the "new" warranty doesn't cover... wait for it.... software.
 

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DEF is better than EGR by a long shot, and it never touches the engine, and up through 2024 the SCR is after the DPF, so there is nothing to gum up.
 

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DEF is better than EGR by a long shot, and it never touches the engine, and up through 2024 the SCR is after the DPF, so there is nothing to gum up.
learned something new thanks tj, so I am wrong about it gumming the dpf.

But that also doesn't change the poor results this recall is doing. As you know any gumming is like a long term issue with any Cummins and perhaps this recall wont effect that thing that happens on short trip trucks anyway. If you see the reviews of the recall, there is a bunch of stuff like emission codes that pop up right after and dealers shrug their shoulders on it. Thanks for the info
 

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learned something new thanks tj, so I am wrong about it gumming the dpf.

But that also doesn't change the poor results this recall is doing. As you know any gumming is like a long term issue with any Cummins and perhaps this recall wont effect that thing that happens on short trip trucks anyway. If you see the reviews of the recall, there is a bunch of stuff like emission codes that pop up right after and dealers shrug their shoulders on it. Thanks for the info
It's bizarre how some trucks seem to repsond differently. I know several people who had it done, and are motoring along with no ill effects, yet there are so many reports of folks having issues. It doesn't make sense.
 
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It is good to learn the difference from EGR DPF and how DEF works, why? The clean air act which like everyone should support forces dealing with particulates. Thanks again to tj as I missed that in the video from freedom worx.

I actually have a new appreciation for DEF, now can we double up on it but get rid of EGR coolers and dpf?

EGR systems can significantly reduce the formation of NOx. However, this is less effective than an SCR system, with some older systems only reducing NOx by about 40%.
  • DEF is injected into the exhaust stream after combustion. Inside a catalytic converter, the urea in the DEF converts NOx into harmless nitrogen and water vapor.
  • Effectiveness: SCR systems using DEF can reduce NOx emissions by as much as 90%.
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No I'll effects except using more DEF?

It's not a significant amount more, in fact many people don't even notice a difference in DEF consumption. And as mentioned it doesn't even come near the engine, turbo, DPF etc so it's not harming anything.

There has been all kinds of paranoid rumors over this, to include "they are locking your ECM" which is completely false. Social media (youtube influencers) just like to stoke the fire for views so that doesn't help the situation.

As part of the plea deal with the government Ram agreed to update "x" % of the trucks out there to comply, they obviously haven't met that and continue to try and entice people in with free give away's etc. At the end of the day, if they don’t meet that number, I’m sure there will be additional fines…. Which in-turn will probably be passed down to the consumer in the form of higher priced trucks (to maintain their profit margins).

Get it done, don't get it done, either way I don't think it's something worth losing sleep over.
 

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Lots of reports up here of DEF tanks freezing in the winter,so they should address that issue ,with a better heated/insulated tank system,that won't freeze when the trucks parked on the street away from an electrical outlet in the winter
 

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It is good to learn the difference from EGR DPF and how DEF works, why? The clean air act which like everyone should support forces dealing with particulates. Thanks again to tj as I missed that in the video from freedom worx.

I actually have a new appreciation for DEF, now can we double up on it but get rid of EGR coolers and dpf?

EGR systems can significantly reduce the formation of NOx. However, this is less effective than an SCR system, with some older systems only reducing NOx by about 40%.
  • DEF is injected into the exhaust stream after combustion. Inside a catalytic converter, the urea in the DEF converts NOx into harmless nitrogen and water vapor.
  • Effectiveness: SCR systems using DEF can reduce NOx emissions by as much as 90%.
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I recall just after buying my 2006 with 5.9 CTD about how Nox was so bad and why the 2007 6.7l CTD trucks would have the EGR junk, what i don't get and fail to understand is why are we forced to use Bio diesel when I recall back in mid 2006 that Bio diesel increased Nox out put in a diesel engine by I think it was like 18-20%... IMHO the EPA an com munist California making Bio a mandate was to help increase the cost of diesel trucks an reducing the number of diesel trucks on the road all in hope to get rid of them completely from being manufactured an replaced with all electric trucks that have yet to pan out......
 

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Not even a big difference in DEF consumption, on average.
As I understand it, the 67A recall has different effects based on the model year. I have a 2015 and had the 67A recall done. Using an iDash data monster and comparing current parameters to past parameters, I've seen what has been reported. I use a bit more DEF when towing, but that is it. I'll take the lower EGR percentages and the extra warranty, which will prolong the time I keep this truck.

Labeling a group of people who have had the recall done to their trucks as "dumb" is a bit strong. I did my due diligence and found no reason not to have the recall done. Perhaps, if I owned a 2018 model year, for example, my choice might have been different.

FYI, you get an insulated lunch box, not a gym bag.
 
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Don’t own a diesel, but do understand that doesn’t sound like something I’d want done to my truck.
 

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As I understand it, the 67A recall has different effects based on the model year. I have a 2015 and had the 67A recall done. Using an iDash data monster and comparing current parameters to past parameters, I've seen what has been reported. I use a bit more DEF when towing, but that is it. I'll take the lower EGR percentages and the extra warranty, which will prolong the time I keep this truck.

Labeling a group of people who have had the recall done to their trucks as "dumb" is a bit strong. I did my due diligence and found no reason not to have the recall done. Perhaps, if I owned a 2018 model year, for example, my choice might have been different.

FYI, you get an insulated lunch box, not a gym bag.


So you specifically said 2018 year. What have you heard about that year specifically?
 

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I recall just after buying my 2006 with 5.9 CTD about how Nox was so bad and why the 2007 6.7l CTD trucks would have the EGR junk, what i don't get and fail to understand is why are we forced to use Bio diesel when I recall back in mid 2006 that Bio diesel increased Nox out put in a diesel engine by I think it was like 18-20%... IMHO the EPA an com munist California making Bio a mandate was to help increase the cost of diesel trucks an reducing the number of diesel trucks on the road all in hope to get rid of them completely from being manufactured an replaced with all electric trucks that have yet to pan out......

As I understand the politics involved, the farmers in Minnesota lobbied their State politicians to get Bio Diesel made the only diesel available in Minnesota. It is crap and the reason that I am glad to never again need to fuel up in Minnesota.

And yes, the state is very Democrat, but I would wager (based on signage seen during last year's election) that farmers are mostly Republican.

No *********s, just greedy businessmen cornering a market.
 

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I didn't get the gym bag, but I did get 4 more visits to the dealer for CEL. My 24-month extended warranty has 9 months left, and I am terrified. DO NOT DO IT!
 

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learned something new thanks tj, so I am wrong about it gumming the dpf.

But that also doesn't change the poor results this recall is doing. As you know any gumming is like a long term issue with any Cummins and perhaps this recall wont effect that thing that happens on short trip trucks anyway. If you see the reviews of the recall, there is a bunch of stuff like emission codes that pop up right after and dealers shrug their shoulders on it. Thanks for the info
And there lies the problem. “ I am wrong about it gumming up “ , your quote . So much misinformation including yours about this recall .

I have to guess you got the recall , and have had issues ??? If not then whatever you’ve read , you took as gospel, and you assumed it gummed up the dpf because you read someone had said it did ??? :oops:
 
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