Hind site is 2020. Help!!!

[Ram1967]

So here it goes. Traded my 2014 Big Horn in on a 2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk. Thought I was doing the right thing. I love the Trailhawk as we vehicle camp all over New Mexico especially during COVID. Fast forward 9 months and I am in need of a second hand pickup truck. It will live mainly at a lake house to be used mainly to tow boat, gather wood, run errands a total of about 3 months a year. The lake house is in Northern Michigan so temps will be chilly. Over the years I have owned a 2003 F150 FX4, a 2007 Toyota Tundra Doublecab Limited 4x4, and the latest a 2014 Ram 1500 Big Horn. Having owned all 3 I felt the Ram pulled the best, the Tundra was the most comfortable, and the F150 was fun to drive. My F150 had 289,000 miles when I traded, Tundra had 120,000, and the Ram had 64,000. Hard to compare reliability with the mileage differences. All of the Trucks I am looking at look to be in great shape with higher miles. Your thoughts on reliabilityL
Sorry for the length.
4 Trucks I’ve narrowed it down too
1) 2013 Ram 1500 Laramie 5.7 Hemi with 144,000 price $21,000
2) 2012 F150 FX4 with 124,000 with 5.0 V8 motor price $18,750
3) 2013 F150 Lariat with 188,000 with 3.5 Ecoboost price $18,900
4) 2014 Toyota Tundra Double Cab 5.7 with 189,000 miles price $22,900

all are very similarly equipped leather, heated seats, etc.

I’m really stuck on which to choose from. Loved my Ram but I did have a few more maintenance issues over the 60,000 miles.

any input would be greatly appreciated

 

[Loudram]

Avoid the Ecoboost. I've heard of to many issues. And $23k for a Toy with 190K miles? Hard no.

Ram all the way, which of course I'm partial too. Or the F-150 with the 5.0.

That being said I drove my brother in law's 2010 F-150 with a V-8 (I don't think it was the 5.0). I wasn't impressed at all. Power and ride quality very much lacking.

What year did Ford start going to the aluminum foil beds?

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[Ram1967]

I loved the ride in my Big Horn. It only had cloth heated seats but I could drive 18 hours straight with no fatigue. My only issue was some of the quality. New front struts at 50,000, fuel sender at 52,000, water pump at 60,000

that being said had to put a water pump and starter into my Tundra which was much more expensive!!

 

[Quyonmob]

Avoid the Ecoboost. I've heard of to many issues. And $23k for a Toy with 190K miles? Hard no.

Ram all the way, which of course I'm partial too. Or the F-150 with the 5.0.

That being said I drove my brother in law's 2010 F-150 with a V-8 (I don't think it was the 5.0). I wasn't impressed at all. Power and ride quality very much lacking.

What year did Ford start going to the aluminum foil beds?

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Was probably a 2V 4.6 triton in that 2010 F150. Pretty boring motor, but it does the job.

If I was looking for a pickup to leave at a lake house, it would be older. Older vehicles seem to handle sitting for long periods of time better, plus the cost is significantly less.

 

[danoday]

I think there is point at which age and milage lose any real measurable reliability. I think all of your choices are at that point and any of them could experience a costly repair at anytime. The question might be which one are you will to rebuild a motor or tranny in? In order to keep for the long haul. For that kind of money I'm probably buying new or much older and a lot less money.

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[Loudram]

Was probably a 2V 4.6 triton in that 2010 F150. Pretty boring motor, but it does the job.

If I was looking for a pickup to leave at a lake house, it would be older. Older vehicles seem to handle sitting for long periods of time better, plus the cost is significantly less.

I think your right. I think it was the 4.6.

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[CamperMike]

I think you should trade off leather for something with less miles and or age. Of the one you listed if condition is similar id actually buy the Ford. I did strongly consider buying a 2013 ford with similar miles to the one you're considering when I got my Ram... But decided to spend a bit more and get a newer truck. And the hemi with 8 speed is so much nicer than the 5.0 with a 6 speed.

 

[warwagon98xj]

I wouldn’t buy anything with over 150k after that sensors start to fail and it can get to a game of a new sensor every week.700$ tow home for a 44$ sensor.


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[jws123]

All of your choices to me look over priced when it comes to the mileage then again i am cheap lol. I paid $5500 for my 2011 ram big horn wth 160k it had a bad cam fixed it myself cheap I now have 208k on it no major repairs since but like stated above with higher miles I bought it with the expectation that it can blow the motor or tranny at any time and id be fine with it.

 

[Ram1967]

I thought of an older model. My issue is I’m planning on pulling a small uhaul trailer bringing some essentials as we work on the cabin over the next year. Want to make sure it will make it the 2000 miles from New Mexico. Last thing I need is to break down half way there with my wife sitting next to me. I actually loved my 5.4 Triton in my 2003. Obviously not near the performance of any of the modern engines but it would haul my boat and get me out of a snowy ditch. May have to rethink the age of the trucks I’m looking at. Only requirement is heated seats cloth or leather

 

[tron67j]

Why not have wood delivered, have someone pull boat for you if Jeep won't do it, and get nice utility trailer for bigger errands. A lot cheaper and you don't have two vehicles to maintain and fix. Leaving a truck to sit for 9 months will cause problems.

 

[ScLeCo]

Where are you shopping for trucks and are they going to buy you dinner first?
Because if you pay that much for ANY of those trucks you're getting ******.

 

[indept]

Where are you shopping for trucks and are they going to buy you dinner first?
Because if you pay that much for ANY of those trucks you're getting ******.

Maybe Kurt Russell

 

[GsRAM]

You want your cake and eat it too.

Why do you need a truck with all the bells and whistles only to let it sit 9 months of the year? The reality is that trucks today hold their value very well. $20k buys you a 10 yr old truck with 100k+ miles, so I'm not surprised at all by the figures the OP mentioned. That was my experience and why eventually just went new. No way I was going to put $20k into someone else's 10+ yr old, 100k+ mile problem child. Better to save your money ,have a good down payment and go new.

All those extras are just more stuff to go wrong and they will just sitting for 9 months unless its going to be garaged, then it may not be as bad but sitting is worse for vehicles than getting run every week. Seals dry out, corrosion happens, moisture gets into fluids and never burned off.

If you were going to remote camp like that why didnt you just put a nice cap on your ram? You'd have way more room to sleep and still have a truck.

I think you should reconsider this situation. Sell the JC, buy a new ram and put a nice cap on it. That way you'll have the utility and reliability you need making a run like that and not have a vehicle sitting 2,000 miles away from you for 9 months a year.

I'm not afraid of high mileage on something I'm running locally, but not on a 2,000 mile trip with my wife and kids along, for the concern you mentioned.

Good luck Sir.

 

[2019 Ram Classic]

https://www.tomahl.com/all-inventory/index.htm?year=2020,2019,2017&make=Ram

this is the dealer I bought my Ram from if you look at his prices you will see there are better deals out there

 

[Travelin Ram]

The 5 liter F150 has fewer miles than the Toyota and is just as reliable. That’s a bulletproof power train. EcoBoost are mixed in their reliability, and nobody knows when a high mileage hemi will eat the cam.

 

[Chadlebrun]

Instead of another vehicle have you considered a utility trailer?

 

[Narg]

With the miles on all of the examples, you will need to consider upkeep. That many miles, there are things that will need to be replaced soon. The Toyota will be the most expensive, the Fords, not bad the RAM will be the easiest and cheapest. It'd be a toss up between the V8 Ford and the RAM for me.

 

[ram1500rsm]

Avoid all of those vehicles you listed for that price with that much miles. My good that dealer must be the only thing in Town within 200 miles of distance. 150k miles is beater territory at least if your buying a gas powered vehicle. The Diesel dudes will tell you 150k miles is a barely broken-in diesel engine, sure but the trans, turbo, intercooler etc may not be that new

Buy an old pickup truck for $5k or so, keep the change for repairs. If you want a RAM you could look into the 2001 RAM 2500's. They made a 5.9L v8, an 8L V10 and a diesel engine for them.

 

[bigred90gt]

Avoid the Ecoboost. I've heard of to many issues. And $23k for a Toy with 190K miles? Hard no.

Ram all the way, which of course I'm partial too. Or the F-150 with the 5.0.

That being said I drove my brother in law's 2010 F-150 with a V-8 (I don't think it was the 5.0). I wasn't impressed at all. Power and ride quality very much lacking.

What year did Ford start going to the aluminum foil beds?

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2010 would have been a 4.6 or a 5.4, both of which were pretty much turds. The 5.0 was much better in terms of power delivery. Ride quality wont be the same as the ram, but being it's not a DD, I'm not certain that is an issue.

F150 went aluminum body in 2015.

How big, and how heavy, is the boat? That may need to factor in as well, unless it's pretty small and not an issue for any of them.

Of that list, I'd go with the F150 5.0 if the boat wasn't huge and heavy. It has the least miles and is the lowest price. FX4 in that year range, if I'm not mistaken, should have an e-lock rear as well and usually has 3.73 gears.