New options for rear control arms/Trackbars for RAM 1500/2020 Jeep Gladiator

[ram1500rsm]

I put together an excel spreadsheet today showing all the options we have.
Most of them are coming from the Jeep gladiator which is sharing the same rear control arms and rear trackbar with our trucks
I recently switched from Mevotech to Freedom Offroad, but now given all this new info and bushing styles i think i'll more likely switch again since my truck is more of an overlander/offroad type so i guess i need to stop being cheap with my arms and get into the flexy bushing wagon clevite should be good for a street oriented rig. I'm affraid i can't let you guys know if my truck will exhibit wheel hop with the Freedom offroad arms, but If you guys think my diff will be fine doing a burnout on 37 KO2's i can do that test and find out before i remove those from my truck, lol
Best for me will be do burnouts in the dirt since they're easier on the drivetrain.

In case you need new hardware, this is what is showing in one of the Mopar sites.
We will need 8 bolts
BOLT Hex Flange Head M16x1.50x100.00
6509206AA

and 8 nuts
NUT Hex Flange Lock M16x1.50
6104720AA

Don't know if the bolts and nuts can be sourced cheaper ? that's fairly expensive from Mopar.


Rear control Arms
(Core 4x4 and Freedom Offroad have the provisions for the rear parking brake line) the others will not, but is not a big deal, i'm sure we can get creative with something to grab that thing out


Rear Trackbars

 

[Graygoose]

Looks good man, appreciate the extra work!!!!

 

[crazykid1994]

Well I have drifted my truck more times than I should have on the street with my 35s and have yet to break anything so give it a shot in the dirt. It’ll probably just spin and no hop in the dirt anyways. I don’t experience any hop in the dirt with stock control arms. I need to upgrade to core arms myself. I’m nowhere near your level of off-roading but some trails can test these trucks. Surprisingly the stock control arms hold up very well offroad. 30,000 miles with a good bit of trails and no noticeable cracks.

 

[69GWC]

Well I dont have 37s just 35s and my truck is holding up fine doing the every now and then burn out..lol
It also does not wheel hop any more with my Core arms and with the stock ones it was pretty bad.

 

[ram1500rsm]

I'd like to be different, lol. Looking at Mevotech to see if they can refund me the money or send me new arms I can sell to recup that money, sell the Freedom ones and I'll either buy Clayton or Metalcloak.

 

[Graygoose]

How are the Freedom ones working, or still too early to tell?

 

[Tim Garceau]

I did get a response from FO that the durometer of the bushing are slightly higher than OEM.

 

[Graygoose]

I did get a response from FO that the durometer of the bushing are slightly higher than OEM, but also mentioned the OE version is for lifted trucks only?

So factory height or lowered rear will need to purchase the ADJ part number which are near CORE prices anyway.

well, sounds like waiting to buy Cores again LOL

 

[ram1500rsm]

How are the Freedom ones working, or still too early to tell?

Still early but so far so good. I was playing around in my local offroad spot yesterday evening trying to gauge them out so far not a single hint of wheel hop in the dirt. Trucks feels nicely different in the corners too more likely cause the bushings are not cracked so overall I like them.

 

[Tim Garceau]

Correction!

 

[ram1500rsm]

I did get a response from FO that the durometer of the bushing are slightly higher than OEM, but also mentioned the OE version is for lifted trucks only?

So factory height or lowered rear will need to purchase the ADJ part number which are near CORE prices anyway.

?? I have the OE version and they measure the same as the stockers eye to eye: 16 3/8" for the uppers and 23 3/4 for the lowers. Reassuring to hear about the bushings. Thanks a lot.

I think all bracket lifts do come with control arms relo brackets so nobody is messing with control arms to extend their axles a little backwards and fix pinion angles either? For lifted Jeeps we make the lowers longer while shortening the uppers. Cheapy way you shorten the uppers after lift.

Stock length should be good up to 2" lift.

Never lowered anything in my life but id guess you want longer uppers? And perhaps shorter lowers? Depending how low you went.

 

[ram1500rsm]

Correction!

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Wonder what they mean with the Adj only for lifted trucks. Can you ask them about the adjustable min and max length?

 

[ram1500rsm]

Rockauto will send me brand new Mevotech arms (all 4). I contacted Mevotech yesterday and they told me to contact Rockauto and they will deal with the warranty.(I bought them from Rockauto) No questions asked so far. I shipped the old ones out today.

 

[Graygoose]

Now thats service!

 

[RedSRT4Me]

Wonder what they mean with the Adj only for lifted trucks. Can you ask them about the adjustable min and max length?

If the mopar 4" lift kit doesn't provide provisions
on the rear. 1.5" would be in the ballpark. Someone fact check the mopar lift to see what's included. Just thinking out loud aside FO reporting their specs

 

[Tim Garceau]

"FO-D708R-ADJ/D707R-ADJ are for a 0-6” lift range. We have them on our Gladiator (same rear suspension as Ram 1500) and they work great. Even have the provisions for headlight level sensors and load sensors for the trucks with rear OE air springs."

 

[ram1500rsm]

If the mopar 4" lift kit doesn't provide provisions
on the rear. 1.5" would be in the ballpark. Someone fact check the mopar lift to see what's included. Just thinking out loud aside FO reporting their specs

I can tell from my diff angle at 1.5" rear lift stock lenght is good for 1 and more likely 2", perhaps at 2.5" you might want to extend the lowers about 1/4" or so or shorten the uppers by a smidge, either way.
2020-03-19_09-22-48 by RAM RSM, on Flickr

 

[ram1500rsm]

I was talking to the folks over at Clayton offroad about their Giiro bushings this morning. I decided to give them a try so i ordered their full Overland set, COR-1710120
I'll have a very low miles FO arms full set for sale soon at a better price than new , and soon a new set of Mevotech that i'll be selling as well at a better price than new.

 

[Tim Garceau]

https://apocindustries.com/collecti...18-ram-2500-3500-adjustable-rear-control-arms

 

[Graygoose]

https://apocindustries.com/collecti...18-ram-2500-3500-adjustable-rear-control-arms

those look nice, decently priced too.