New Ram owner here...5100 bilsteins question...

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If you add the Eibach springs to the bilstein at 0 setting and buy a cheap 1" rear spacer you will have about a 3/4" Rake. Cheap rear spacer can be had 30-50 bucks depending on where ya look. Thats what I have and it rides better than the Bilsteins set at 1.4 with OE springs and no rear spacer.

You running stock tire and yours is a reg cab? Wonder how that would work on a crewcab.
Im at a 2⅛-2¼ rake right now at stock suspension running 305/55s
 

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My tires are over 34" tall but that has nothing to do with the rake . The tires look small as I also have a 1.5" Body lift, its all in the signature below. My guess is you will be a hair high in the front to dead level . I had about the same rake when stock. I went from Bilstein at 1.4 w/OE springs and went up almost 1.5" in the front just by switching to the Eibach springs and going to the stock setting. I prefer about an inch rake. I added either a 3/4 or 1" spacer in the back figuring the front will probably settle a little some day .
 

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My tires are over 34" tall but that has nothing to do with the rake . The tires look small as I also have a 1.5" Body lift, its all in the signature below. My guess is you will be a hair high in the front to dead level . I had about the same rake when stock. I went from Bilstein at 1.4 w/OE springs and went up almost 1.5" in the front just by switching to the Eibach springs and going to the stock setting. I prefer about an inch rake. I added either a 3/4 or 1" spacer in the back figuring the front will probably settle a little some day .

Yup i was just curious what size tire you had on there, if i start lifting front and back i may need taller tires lol
I may be lower in the rear due to a crew cab, im at 38¾ roughly maybe a hair more.
 

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Seems like some who do the Eibachs in the front go with Eibach springs in the back which they refer to them as the 1" rear Eibach springs I don't remember what they were after as far as rake. To me anything less than about an inch seems level to look at so I try for at least an inch as I prefer a little rake all said and done . I have many spacers to choose from to get exactly what I want . I have had many Jeep Wranglers that I replaced spacers with taller springs and the spacers are the same as used on Rams so between two Rams I am always changing one of them. My front is roughly 41.25" in the front
 
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I run the 5100 at 2.8 which sat a bit nose high at first. I ended up adding a 2" spacer to the rears which gave about a 1 inch rake but pretty close to level. My main reason for the spacer was so that I could still tow/haul. With 35" and originally no lift in the back, the rear sat way too close to the tires. 2" spacer made it perfect.
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My tires are over 34" tall but that has nothing to do with the rake . The tires look small as I also have a 1.5" Body lift, its all in the signature below. My guess is you will be a hair high in the front to dead level . I had about the same rake when stock. I went from Bilstein at 1.4 w/OE springs and went up almost 1.5" in the front just by switching to the Eibach springs and going to the stock setting. I prefer about an inch rake. I added either a 3/4 or 1" spacer in the back figuring the front will probably settle a little some day .

I forgot to mention i dont see signatures unless i turn my phone sideways lol

I cant make my damn mind up lol
Do i keep my bils and order eibach springs or do i just go all out and go for the fox 2.0 coils?!?
I scored the bils for 93 a piece off amazon back in November. I just dont wanna lose the ride i have now. I really dont have much off roading around here either, lotta pot holes tho!
 

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I had the Fox 2.0 on a Tacoma I had for a short time as a toy and they were OK . Just a little stiffer than stock like I have now on the Ram with my present combo I'd say. I don't think they are worth the money though compared to 5100/Eibach price. The one thing I did like about the Fox was the ability to adjust any lean the truck had pretty much out but thats not really a big deal. I doubt you will find anything that duplicates the OE ride and lifts it a couple inches , maybe King if ya want to spend that much money. I am happy with my ride and its much smoother than the OE springs set on 1.4 on the 5100s were. That being said some people seem happy with the OE springs at 2.1 and 2.8 but I know from experience that ride does not compare to what I have now at this height. They also may not know how much better it can be until you have ridden in this set up also. I feel mine is close to stock ride which I liked too but can't really compare because I did not have these tires on when I had OE suspension. Its not far from it I can tell you that much just seeing how much the tires did effect it when they were added as I did have the oe tires on when I installed the 5100's at 1.4 with OE springs. I also have not ridden in a Ram with the complete Eibach strut and spring or Bilstein 6112s either , they may be even better but then again more money and like you I already had the 5100s. I did it this way because I already had the Bilsteins and just did not care for the exaggerated rebound I had. Eibachs cured it along with an even softer ride so I am pleased not to mention its cheap and quick enough to try . I reset the tow and I can see the camber is off a hair but I will have that taken care of in a week or so, I just wanted the springs to settle if they are going to first . I probably didn't help but added to your head scratching .
 

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I had the Fox 2.0 on a Tacoma I had for a short time as a toy and they were OK . Just a little stiffer than stock like I have now on the Ram with my present combo I'd say. I don't think they are worth the money though compared to 5100/Eibach price. The one thing I did like about the Fox was the ability to adjust any lean the truck had pretty much out but thats not really a big deal. I doubt you will find anything that duplicates the OE ride and lifts it a couple inches , maybe King if ya want to spend that much money. I am happy with my ride and its much smoother than the OE springs set on 1.4 on the 5100s were. That being said some people seem happy with the OE springs at 2.1 and 2.8 but I know from experience that ride does not compare to what I have now at this height. They also may not know how much better it can be until you have ridden in this set up also. I feel mine is close to stock ride which I liked too but can't really compare because I did not have these tires on when I had OE suspension. Its not far from it I can tell you that much just seeing how much the tires did effect it when they were added as I did have the oe tires on when I installed the 5100's at 1.4 with OE springs. I also have not ridden in a Ram with the complete Eibach strut and spring or Bilstein 6112s either , they may be even better but then again more money and like you I already had the 5100s. I did it this way because I already had the Bilsteins and just did not care for the exaggerated rebound I had. Eibachs cured it along with an even softer ride so I am pleased not to mention its cheap and quick enough to try . I reset the tow and I can see the camber is off a hair but I will have that taken care of in a week or so, I just wanted the springs to settle if they are going to first . I probably didn't help but added to your head scratching .

Great advice thanks!
Im leaning towards the bils cause i have them and add eibach coils, may even purchase the spring perches and hardware just so i can build them b4 i rip mine apart.
Can always try something different if i do like em.
If adding a rear 1" spacer do stock rear shocks still work or longer is needed?
 

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Im still using OE Rears . I have rear 5100s sitting in a corner in the garage ( yes they were bad I thought to stiff) and the new Flag nuts and removal tool for the upper ends if I get to the point I have to use them. I think they were for 1" or so lift. I just didn't care for them on my 2014 so I put the OE shocks back on. I have not had it off road to seee if the rears are a little short in that enviroment
 
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