PW payload strangeness

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Looking at the payloads for various 2021 PW’s on the ram site, I’m noticing some inconsistencies in some of these built trucks and how they’re optioned. In a few instances some significantly more optioned trucks are turning up higher payloads than the barer bones trucks. Is there something else at play here or is the website known to have errors for this? I’m looking them up by VIN.
 
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I would guess there are errors. The most the barest boned pw has is something like 1500 pounds if memory serves me right. Wanna say mine is under 1300.
 

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1,500 pound barest boned PW = 3/4 ton Power Wagon.

Tradesman PW = 3/4 ton capabilities
 

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my vin when entered matches my door sticker mine is a level 1 pw. So here is the odd thing I went and weighed my truck and with a full tank of gas it weighs 6950 so my payload is actually greater than what it says. This is with 35" tires including a 35" spare and tranny skid plate and mopar tube steps that I added. I figured I added ~100lbs . Many truck stops have the CAT scales and they are supposed to be dead nuts on.

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1,500 pound barest boned PW = 3/4 ton Power Wagon.

Tradesman PW = 3/4 ton capabilities


No, a tradesman power wagon does not have the same capabilities as a normal 2500...if that is what you were referring to.
 

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I think what @Grand Mesa means is that 3/4 ton is 1500 pounds. The Base Tradesman with Powerwagon package for 2019+ can have 1620lbs...so more than 3/4 ton capable lol.

The CAT scales do have a +/- 20 pound leeway per pad. So you could be 40 pounds off...which gets the number close.

But I for sure would guess with adding stuff it should weigh more...not less.

GVWR 8565 minus 1565 payload means the base weight should be 7000lbs. So you are 50 pounds off...did you change wheels also? Could be your tire and wheel package saved you some weight, @retired

For reference, my Tradesman Crew 8' bed with only protection group and tow mirrors as the only option weighs 7002lbs.

And the chart lists a Tradesman with Powerwagon Package having a max payload of 1620. Of course you can option the tradesman up to weigh more than a base Powerwagon trim.

But 1620 would be the most and I have seen door stickers as low as 1065.

The 2 heaviest options would be RamBox and sunroof.
 

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My wheel package is heavier anyway you do the math 35 Toyo R/T's on AEV Salta wheels are 74lbs+33lbs=107lbs. stock tire weighs 54lb and wheel has to be around 30lbs so 84lbs apiece so for the 4 on the ground that is 92lbs over how it came and the spare adds 20lbs over stock tire on stock spare wheel. the skid has to weigh a bit over 35lbs probably more. the side rails add around 30lbs so I have probably added 172lbs give or take a couple of pounds. that would put my truck at 6778 as it came from the factory and hence my actual payload should have been 1787lbs by my fuzzy math.
 

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I think what @Grand Mesa means is that 3/4 ton is 1500 pounds. The Base Tradesman with Powerwagon package for 2019+ can have 1620lbs...so more than 3/4 ton capable lol.

The CAT scales do have a +/- 20 pound leeway per pad. So you could be 40 pounds off...which gets the number close.

But I for sure would guess with adding stuff it should weigh more...not less.

GVWR 8565 minus 1565 payload means the base weight should be 7000lbs. So you are 50 pounds off...did you change wheels also? Could be your tire and wheel package saved you some weight, @retired

For reference, my Tradesman Crew 8' bed with only protection group and tow mirrors as the only option weighs 7002lbs.

And the chart lists a Tradesman with Powerwagon Package having a max payload of 1620. Of course you can option the tradesman up to weigh more than a base Powerwagon trim.

But 1620 would be the most and I have seen door stickers as low as 1065.

The 2 heaviest options would be RamBox and sunroof.


Are you saying RAM is showing a tradesman power wagon having more payload than a normal 2500? I would highly doubt that. Or are you saying anything over 1500 is a 3/4 ton?

Im so lost lol!
 

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I weighed my PW on a CAT scale a while back and it shook out to 7,080 lbs with 3/4 tank.

Door sticker states 1,450 lbs max payload.

Not sure what that all means, all I know is I have about 125 pounds or so of recovery gear and 350 pounds of dog kennels, CargoGlide and Softopper weight when daily driven. Add another 120 or so pounds when the dogs are loaded.

EDIT: Plus all 170 pounds of my sexy ass in the driver's seat.
 

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Are you saying RAM is showing a tradesman power wagon having more payload than a normal 2500? I would highly doubt that. Or are you saying anything over 1500 is a 3/4 ton?

Im so lost lol!
this was the tradesman with pw package I looked at before buying my pw.DD58FF67-F67C-473C-8652-28AD511A2068_1_201_a.jpeg
 

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Are you saying RAM is showing a tradesman power wagon having more payload than a normal 2500? I would highly doubt that. Or are you saying anything over 1500 is a 3/4 ton?

Im so lost lol!
No. I am assuming he is being sarcastic. 1500lbs = 3/4 ton.

Everyone knows a Powerwagon takes a payload hit. But 1500lbs is 3/4 ton.

A Powerwagon loses payload to a regular 2500.

But...1500lbs is 3/4 ton:Good or Bad:
 

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That tradesman grill is so clean next to that ugly plastic kidney bean on the PW. Why Ram decided that customers have to choose between having chrome bumpers or an ugly plastic grill to have a PW is beyond me.
I agree the PW grill is the worst of all the grills (and the rebel) even with the chrome bumper it looks 100X better than the PW front end. Only reason I went with the power wagon was when we were test driving them I asked my wife which one and she liked the PW interior much better and the rest is history lol.
 
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