Ram Hurricane engine chief engineer explains: Why Hemi 5.7L V8 was replaced

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Ram Hurricane engine chief engineer explains: Why Hemi 5.7L V8 was replaced, stop changing oil every 3,000 miles​

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Story by Tim Esterdahl


The replacement of the Hemi 5.7L V8 as Ram’s top engine remains one of the most controversial decisions in recent Ram truck history. Yet according to the Ram Hurricane engine chief engineer responsible for both the Hemi engine and the new Hurricane inline-six, the move wasn’t simply about emissions regulations.

In an interview, Stellantis Director of Propulsion Systems Alan Falowski explained why the company developed the 3.0-liter Hurricane twin-turbo inline-six, how it was engineered to replace the Hemi and why many common concerns about turbocharged engines may be rooted in outdated thinking.

Why Ram Chose an Inline-Six Instead of Another V8​

Falowski said the Hurricane program began with a simple objective: create an engine that could outperform the Hemi in every meaningful category.

According to Falowski, engineers established three primary targets:
  • More horsepower
  • More torque
  • Better fuel economy
After determining those goals, the engineering team concluded a turbocharged engine offered the best path forward. The next question became what engine configuration would deliver those results.

Rather than developing another V8, Stellantis chose a 3.0-liter inline-six because it could meet power targets while also offering inherent balance advantages.

“In an inline six they’re perfectly balanced,” Falowski explained. “They’re smooth, they feel great whether you’re idling or racing all the way to redline.”

He also noted the smoother operation fit well with luxury-oriented trucks like the Ram 1500 Tungsten, where refinement is increasingly important to buyers.

Stellantis Says Turbo Reliability Concerns Are Based on Old Technology​

One of the biggest criticisms of the Hurricane engine has been its twin turbochargers.

Falowski acknowledged many consumers still view turbocharged engines as less reliable than naturally aspirated engines, but said that perception largely comes from earlier turbo applications where manufacturers simply bolted turbos onto engines that were never designed for boost.

The Hurricane, he said, was engineered from the beginning as a turbocharged engine.

Engineers modeled cylinder pressures, temperatures, cooling requirements and material specifications before production began. The same durability and design principles used for decades in turbocharged diesel engines were applied to the Hurricane gasoline engine.

Extreme Durability Testing Includes Simulating a Race Track​

Falowski provided new details on how Stellantis validates Hurricane durability.

Rather than simply accumulating miles, engineers use damage accumulation models that simulate the stress customers place on engines throughout their ownership experience. The company then creates accelerated tests that generate the same amount of wear in significantly less time.

One example involves running the engine at sustained high output for hundreds of hours, far beyond what most owners would ever experience.

Stellantis also uses a specialized gimbal-mounted dynamometer capable of tilting the engine to simulate extreme cornering conditions while monitoring oil flow.

The goal is to ensure the engine never experiences oil starvation even under aggressive driving conditions.

How Stellantis Solved a Common Turbo Problem​

Another interesting detail involved turbocharger cooling.

Falowski said the Hurricane uses a dedicated low-temperature cooling circuit that not only cools compressed intake air but also continues cooling the turbochargers after the engine is shut off.

The system uses an electric water pump to continue circulating coolant after shutdown when necessary.

According to Falowski, this helps prevent oil coking inside the turbochargers, which was a common failure point on older turbocharged engines.

Hurricane Oil Requirements and 10,000-Mile Oil Changes​

Perhaps the most controversial topic involved oil.

Falowski confirmed the Hurricane Standard Output engine uses 0W-20 full synthetic oil, while the High Output version requires 0W-40 because of its higher boost pressures and bearing loads.

He also defended the engine’s 10,000-mile oil change interval.

According to Falowski, modern synthetic oils and additive packages are dramatically more advanced than oils available even a decade ago. The Hurricane’s oil life monitoring system continuously evaluates engine operation and can request earlier service if the vehicle experiences severe use.

He went even further near the end of the interview, calling the 10,000-mile recommendation a conservative number.

“The 10,000 miles that we recommend, it’s a very safe number,” Falowski said.

No Dipstick? Stellantis Thinks That’s Better​

Another surprising revelation involved engine oil monitoring.

While many truck buyers dislike the disappearance of traditional dipsticks, Falowski said newer Stellantis vehicles, like the 2025 Ram 1500 with the Hurricane engine, use oil level sensors that continuously monitor oil levels. If the oil level falls below a specified threshold, the system alerts the driver immediately.

His argument is straightforward: most owners never checked their oil anyway.

By continuously monitoring oil levels electronically, Stellantis believes the system actually offers better protection than relying on drivers to remember periodic checks.

Bottom Line from the Ram Hurricane Engine Chief Engineer​

Whether Ram fans like it or not, the Hurricane wasn’t developed simply because someone wanted to kill the Hemi.

According to the engineer who helped develop both engines, the Hurricane program focused on delivering more power, more torque, improved fuel economy and greater refinement while meeting increasingly stringent global requirements.

The bigger challenge may not be convincing customers the Hurricane is capable. It may be convincing lifelong V8 owners that modern turbocharged technology, longer oil change intervals and electronic monitoring systems have evolved far beyond what they remember from decades ago.


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Thanks for posting that. Interesting but I would hardly expect the guy that lead development to call them a piece of sh$t, so hard to give the arguments full credibility. I don't like no dipstick on transmissions, and I like it even less on the motor. There are enough of us that do check levels that they should have left them in place.

The other really big issue is all the electrical problems they are having with the new electrical architecture they installed.
 

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Thanks for posting that. Interesting but I would hardly expect the guy that lead development to call them a piece of sh$t, so hard to give the arguments full credibility. I don't like no dipstick on transmissions, and I like it even less on the motor. There are enough of us that do check levels that they should have left them in place.

The other really big issue is all the electrical problems they are having with the new electrical architecture they installed.
Used as a "Valid" excuse to not have to engineeer a way to install a dipstick through and around all the other crap the engine is wrapped in and a way to validate the use of sensors instead so they wouldn't have to do that.

Just a BS way of skirting the issue.
They won't guarantee these sensors or it's wiring won't fail later (Outside of warranty in particular) so they can't do that or every single Hurricane engine equipped vehicle would have to be "Corrected" and no way they are going to do that if they don't have to.

Sensors for anything else go bad all the time and wiring problems are a thing too but I can also guarantee the manufacturers of these sensors themselves had a bit of push/influence to make it happen this way because it's cheaper to have it this way - Cheaper for them that is but not for you..... And profitable for the manufacturers of these sensors too.
And yes, all the electrical issues as of late in these pickups really inspires confidence in reliance on these sensors too you know....:dancingpoop:

I've said it before and will yet again - No engine oil dipstick, no deal.
 
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Please remember that if you are going to post an article in the Dodge Ram News Section that an image, either from the article or one that is relevant to the subject matter, is include in the thread.

That way the image is visible on the front page of the forum.

I added one to this thread.

Thanks for posting up the article. It was an interesting read.
 

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Might be the greatest engine of all time on paper. An engine is only as good as the parts used. Cutting corners affects quality and we see this across all mfgs.
 

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NICE PR there on what behooves Stellantis. IMHO the bigger problem right now seems to be the funky/fluky new Atlantic Electrical Architecture. How well the new inline 6's hold up may be to use: I would think as GG and general use be OK. Working that motor as a TRUCK, only time will tell and an engineer telling me how great a silly twin turbo DI motor is to me, well that is kinda funny. MAY explain why my 2019 is still parked out front.
 

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Never driven one, probably should at some time. Don't mind a six, like turbos and other power adders, but think Ram could have and should do both.

Not everyone wants a six. Glad thst mistake has been corrected
 

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More horsepower, more torque and better fuel economy. Where's equal or better long term reliability. Just a bunch of talk about how they've improved turbo engines in the last 10yrs? Throw a turbo on anything and get 2 of the 3. I want 200,000 miles or better on a drivetrain. Really with the prices nowadays I'd expect at least that.
 
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Because plastic arms in a thermostat is completely normal to these idiots. My best friend has one and I get to drive it. It hasn't broken yet. Looking forward to see howt long it holds up.

To be fair he drives it like it's stolen, so that probably helps itb :peace: same reason my HEMI runs smoothly.
 

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More horsepower, more torque and better fuel economy. Where's equal or better long term reliability. Just a bunch of talk about how they've improved turbo engines in the last 10yrs? Throw a turbo on anything and get 2 of the 3. I want 200,000 miles or better on a drivetrain. Really with the prices nowadays I'd expect at least that.
How can you know the long term reliability of something that's only been around for 4 or 5 years? In that 4 or 5 years, there are no widespread failures in the hurricanes. I have no data to back this up, but I'd wager they've had less failures than the hemis lifters wipe out cam lobes...
And, just to be clear I'm a fan of BOTH engines. It's odd to me that so many try to make it a competition when we have both choices...
P.S. off the factory floor, my hurricane does EVERYTHING better than the same truck with a hemi.
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P.S. off the factory floor, my hurricane does EVERYTHING better than the same truck with a hemi.

Little nit; you're making the same flawed argument as the engineer; comparing the 5.7 to the SO/HO and trying to extrapolate "hurricane > hemi". Why does the 5.7 have to carry the burden of being the best hemi?

Because I'm pretty sure the 777 SRT will wipe the floor with your HO, and sound a lot better doing it; never mind the 1025 hp demon. If that's what you're going for. Yeah I know they didn't put the demon in a truck (yet).

"EVERYTHING" is completely false. It's a less durable engine, we know materials science and how to make a strong reliable engine that can take an absolute thrashing and come back for more. Hemi in various iterations has those qualities, hurricane does not. It does make more power than the 5.7. So? There are more hemis.

If you're towing hot and heavy, the turbo will feel stronger, but the hemi will BE stronger. What matters more to you, is up to you, but clearly EVERYTHING is simply false.

I'll take a NA 6.4 please. Y'all can keep your forced induction, not for me in either engine arch.
 

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If the Hurricane was so great, why are the bringing back the Hemi?

when i researched it, this came up:

"Ram has officially brought back the legendary 5.7-liter HEMI V-8 to the Ram 1500 lineup. After pausing the V-8 for the 2025 model year in favor of the new twin-turbo Hurricane inline-six engines, Ram's leadership acknowledged the decision was a mistake and brought the beloved V-8 back as an optional upgrade."
 

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If the Hurricane was so great, why are the bringing back the Hemi?

when i researched it, this came up:

"Ram has officially brought back the legendary 5.7-liter HEMI V-8 to the Ram 1500 lineup. After pausing the V-8 for the 2025 model year in favor of the new twin-turbo Hurricane inline-six engines, Ram's leadership acknowledged the decision was a mistake and brought the beloved V-8 back as an optional upgrade."

Same reason Ford offers the 3.5EB and the 5.0 Coyote. Customers have different preferences. Manual transmissions are objectively worse than automatic transmissions today. They are slower and they are weaker, but people like them for reasons other than objective metrics, so enthusiast cars tend to continue to offer them. No different here, the V8 is slower and weaker. Maybe it's got better longevity, maybe it doesn't, but people still like them.
 

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Nobody doubts the power, capability, efficiency of the new hurricane engines, that's proven. The reason why buyers opt-out is because of longevity & durability. Now, if stellantis slotted the hurricane in their 2500 and 3500s, then I would be more of a believer that the durability and longevity is there.

If i were buying a new 1500, I'd probably choose the hurricane. F150 coyote would be a close 2nd.
If I were buying a new HD, it would be an f350 with the 7.3.
 

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How can you know the long term reliability of something that's only been around for 4 or 5 years? In that 4 or 5 years, there are no widespread failures in the hurricanes. I have no data to back this up, but I'd wager they've had less failures than the hemis lifters wipe out cam lobes...
And, just to be clear I'm a fan of BOTH engines. It's odd to me that so many try to make it a competition when we have both choices...
P.S. off the factory floor, my hurricane does EVERYTHING better than the same truck with a hemi.
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My point was why wasn't reliability one of the primary targets.
 

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Nobody doubts the power, capability, efficiency of the new hurricane engines, that's proven. The reason why buyers opt-out is because of longevity & durability. Now, if stellantis slotted the hurricane in their 2500 and 3500s, then I would be more of a believer that the durability and longevity is there.

If i were buying a new 1500, I'd probably choose the hurricane. F150 coyote would be a close 2nd.
If I were buying a new HD, it would be an f350 with the 7.3.

None of the current half ton power trains are in the HD.

They did focus group the Hurricane for HD trucks, but feedback was pretty negative. I was part of one of them. Truck buyers are conservative, and HD truck buyers even more so.

I don't really need a 2500, it's just the only way to get a Power Wagon. I am fine with the dumb ol' 6.4L/ZF8. The last Ford I had was a 7.3L, but not the gas version.
 
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