shop put wrong oil in my truck —

[992wire]

Thank you very much for that!! I totally get it now —- well
To the extent that I need to get it- Me
Being an electrician and not a mechanic … but now I am thinking of stopping at autozone or Napa or somewhere on my way to the katzenjammer kids Garage to have them put in the correct oil filter and oil if needed so I can figure out if my interference motor was screwed up when they ran my truck out of time, or jf we both got lucky …..

Ok so now I need to research which oil filter to get….. I’m gonna search forum for p1524

 

[Ken226]

Lol, "Alice" In Wonderland and the Band later years, that played out the "far fetched fantasy" of Alice in their song " White Rabbit", by Jefferson Airplane on the album Surrealistic Pillow, 1967.

I was negative 9 in 67.

As to how far fetched it is, I suppose depends on how well one can apply "Pascals Law of Hydraulics" to an engines lubrication system.


Here's a simplified description for those of us from Texas: Turn on the water hose and pinch it with your fingers. Your fingers are the anti drainback valve, upstream of the pinch the hose swells and gets tighter (higher pressure), downstream of the pinch, the hose gets floppy and loose (lower pressure). The harder you pinch, the bigger the pressure difference between upstream and downstream.

All legal and in compliance with Pascals Law.

 

[Ken226]

Ok so now I need to research which oil filter to get….. I’m gonna search forum for p1524

Check out the comments in the video i posted earlier. Two of the first few comments fixed the issue with the Mopar OEM mo-899 filter:



The mo-899 filter mentioned in the comments is available on Amazon and Oreilly Auto parts locally.

 

[Ken226]

Another case of the oil filter causing low oil pressure:

2011 Ram 5.7 Hemi Low Oil Pressure. codes P1524, P0344 and P3497

This 2011 Ram was brought in for the MIL on and a Low Oil Pressure message. Ended up changing the oil and filter.

www.youtube.com

In this video, the offending filter is a luberfiner PH48, which has a rubber anti-drainback valve in the bottom of the filter. (in the video he claims that it doesn't have one, but it does. Just not in the location he's looking).

FleetFilter - NapaGold/Wix and Baldwin filters: Wix/Gold Napa vs Luberfiner Filter

We offer NapaGold/WIX filters, FRAM filters, and BALDWIN automotive filters all at wholesale pricing with heavy discounts for bulk orders.

www.fleetfilter.com

When he replaced the "luberfiner" filter with a Wix 57899 that has a silicone anti-drainback valve, the problem resolved.

 

[Sherman Bird]

here is the anti-drainback valve.

The pump has to force the oil under pressure through the holes, which forces its way past the soft seal. Depending on the material, thickness, etc, the amount of force may be significantly different from one brand to the next.



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That's my theory anyway. I could be wrong.

That different filters result in different oil pressure values has been observed many times both here and elsewhere, so that part of it isn't really in question.
Lol, that went over some folks head!

Lol, "Alice" In Wonderland and the Band later years, that played out the "far fetched fantasy" of Alice in their song " White Rabbit", by Jefferson Airplane on the album Surrealistic Pillow, 1967.

Maybe the men on the chess board can lend a solution! LOL!

 

[Ken226]

Maybe the men on the chess board can lend a solution! LOL!

Respectfully sir, The solution is well known.

I can explain it for you but I can't understand it for you.

 

[992wire]

Respectfully sir, The solution is well known.

I can explain it for you but I can't understand it for you.

Ok so I’m at a bit of a loss . I contacted them and the salesman said “ oh it’s an oil pressure sensor - it’ll cost you about $60 “. I was absolutely dumbfounded … I could not believe that after giving them $6600 that he would have the audacity to tell me that the check engine light was my problem. Smh…. I told him “I’ll call you back “. And that’s where I left it .
So my dilemma is, is it my responsibility I mean you walked with such a purpose that he threw me completely for a loop . I mean, am I wrong expecting them to fix this? I’m here there now. I’m thinking of stopping and telling him fix this ******* thing, but am I in the wrong or acting like that? part of me says yes, part of me says no. Then when I think that I could buy all these parts that are needed for less than 1000 bucks a whole kit to replace the cam or add another 500 bucks I can get an MDS deterkit from a high-performance engine shop. But these jokers charged me over $500
Just for gaskets … and they charged me $917 for fuel injectors without notifiying me about it . I’m extremely bitter, but at the same time I don’t want to be that guy that has a problem with everything no matter what . So I ask you ; do they have an obligation to fix this issue ?

Jim

 

[Ken226]

Ok so I’m at a bit of a loss . I contacted them and the salesman said “ oh it’s an oil pressure sensor - it’ll cost you about $60 “. I was absolutely dumbfounded … I could not believe that after giving them $6600 that he would have the audacity to tell me that the check engine light was my problem. Smh…. I told him “I’ll call you back “. And that’s where I left it .
So my dilemma is, is it my responsibility I mean you walked with such a purpose that he threw me completely for a loop . I mean, am I wrong expecting them to fix this? I’m here there now. I’m thinking of stopping and telling him fix this ******* thing, but am I in the wrong or acting like that? part of me says yes, part of me says no. Then when I think that I could buy all these parts that are needed for less than 1000 bucks a whole kit to replace the cam or add another 500 bucks I can get an MDS deterkit from a high-performance engine shop. But these jokers charged me over $500
Just for gaskets … and they charged me $917 for fuel injectors without notifiying me about it . I’m extremely bitter, but at the same time I don’t want to be that guy that has a problem with everything no matter what . So I ask you ; do they have an obligation to fix this issue ?

Jim

Objectively, It still isn't fixed, so you're not being "that guy".

At this point, I think you may be at the point where you need to fix your truck yourself, or take it to a different shop.

I think we established quite a while back that they are not competent. Maybe your attorney can recover some of the fraudulent charges.

Like pretty much all of the labor and parts related to the bent pushrods. That is a rookie mistake, and if a shop makes it, they eat the costs.

 

[992wire]

Objectively, It still isn't fixed, so you're not being "that guy".

At this point, I think you may be at the point where you need to fix your truck yourself, or take it to a different shop.

I think we established quite a while back that they are not competent. Maybe your attorney can recover some of the fraudulent charges.

Like pretty much all of the labor and parts related to the bent pushrods. That is a rookie mistake, and if a shop makes it, they eat the costs.

I am most likely going to
Take it to
The first shop and have the oil changed and see if the code goes away. I believe in the case of a lawsuit , that would for sure prove they were negligent. Or
At least prove it was their fault . ? Or no? My reason for using the first shop for the oil change is because my truck was not throwing a 1524 then . Yes ? No ?
Or can I just change the filter ?

No… I’m thinking now that I need to do the oil change also to inspect the oil for pieces of metal … then,
If they are present in the oil , I know I have to park
My
Truck because they really screwed it
Up …..


jim

 

[Ken226]

No… I’m thinking now that I need to do the oil change also to inspect the oil for pieces of metal … then,
If they are present in the oil , I know I have to park
My
Truck because they really screwed it
Up …..


jim

That sounds like a good plan. Change the oil, see what the oil pressure is after the new oil/filter is installed.

Then cut open the old filter and see what is In it. But, some flakes in the filter doesn't necessarily mean the engine is toast, just that the filter did it's job. It's not a good sign, but maybe not the end of the world either, depending on what it is you find.

Start with the oil change and filter, then see where it goes from there. Keep record of everything you do.

 

[Ken226]

I am most likely going to
Take it to
The first shop and have the oil changed and see if the code goes away. I believe in the case of a lawsuit , that would for sure prove they were negligent. Or
At least prove it was their fault . ? Or no? My reason for using the first shop for the oil change is because my truck was not throwing a 1524 then . Yes ? No ?
Or can I just change the filter ?

No… I’m thinking now that I need to do the oil change also to inspect the oil for pieces of metal … then,
If they are present in the oil , I know I have to park
My
Truck because they really screwed it
Up …..


jim

Just to clarify what I said earlier, when I said:

"some flakes in the filter doesn't necessarily mean the engine is toast, just that the filter did it's job."

The typical path of engine oil is from the oil pan, through a screen and into the pickup tube, then through the oil pump. Then it goes through the filter, then from the filter up into the bearings and other passages.

So any residual metal that was not properly cleaned out and left in the oil pan from the cam swap, by the shop, would be in the filter, and not necessarily have ever been near the bearings or lifters.

 

[Sherman Bird]

I am most likely going to
Take it to
The first shop and have the oil changed and see if the code goes away. I believe in the case of a lawsuit , that would for sure prove they were negligent. Or
At least prove it was their fault . ? Or no? My reason for using the first shop for the oil change is because my truck was not throwing a 1524 then . Yes ? No ?
Or can I just change the filter ?

No… I’m thinking now that I need to do the oil change also to inspect the oil for pieces of metal … then,
If they are present in the oil , I know I have to park
My
Truck because they really screwed it
Up …..


jim

So, I take it that you are confused due to being in the midst of this POOP storm.

Clarity: These buffoons are like the 3 Stooges. You've said here just as much. You got boffed, plain and simple!

Do you like hitting your head against the wall just because it quits hurting when you stop? I'd think not.

So, let's just take this in a direction of "Fix The Damned Problem"! Is that your primary desire?

You seem to actually enjoy going back for more pain in that you are thinking about having THEM do an oil change.
I'm flummoxed at that idea!

PUT DISTANCE between yourself and these chowderheads! GET a competent shop to fix the damned truck. Sympathy can go only so far!

 

[Rustypipes12]

If you have to drive the truck anyway I'd get a bottle of Redline fuel system cleaner and dump it in. Manifold leak could just be bolts . 5.7s are known to warp exhaust manifold and snap bolts. It's fairly easy to check. When it's cold grab the heat shield and see if it rattles. If it does you probably have some exhaust studs busted. There's a wealth of info on this site about that. Run top tier gas preferably 89 octane. If it is lifter failure none of this helps. Cross your fingers.

 

[4xdad]

i don’t even know how you would bend 7 pushrods. 1 maybe 2 no did they show you the old ones