Should I get a Diesel

[Joe Merchak]

Hi

As you may know I have a 2022 2500 with the 6.4L and 4.1 rear that pulls my Bullet 260RBS. The trailer has a gross weight of 7600lb and a measured tongue weight of 1100lb. We upgraded to the 2500 because my payload was over on my 1500. Some of you know my truck is now in the shop after 10K with a lifter issue. This has me concerned about the strength and longevity of the 6.4L engine and I am thinking of trading it in on a diesel 2500. What do you guys think?

When not towing the trips are around town and trips that are under 50mph. This is why we purchased the 6.4L in the first place since I heard this is not really good for a diesel engine. My current truck has no issues pulling my trailers or doing what I want, just concerned with the motor.

Advice is welcomed.

Thanks everyone
Joe

 

[2003F350]

If you aren't regularly making long trips or hauling heavy weight, I'd avoid the diesel. You are just ASKING for DPF issues doing so.

I would stick with a gasser. Which one is up to you, but I put 102k miles on my last truck ('17 Power Wagon, 6.4, 6 speed, 4.10 gears) and never had any major issues with the truck/engine/trans. In fact the only issues I really had were the parking sensors (salt and sensors don't agree with one another) and the MAP sensor dying on me with no codes. I only ever ran Mobil 1 in it for oil, supposedly it doesn't meet spec but 102k with no issues tells me it works well enough.

 

[flashman252]

Yup. No questions asked... get the diesel. I have had my truck regen at 50-60 mph multiple times and never had an issue. Just be diligent and take it on the hwy for 15-20 min at least once a week if you can. Even then, if you are getting to 50 mph for a decent amount of time, I bet it regens just fine.

 

[KKBB]

Hi

As you may know I have a 2022 2500 with the 6.4L and 4.1 rear that pulls my Bullet 260RBS. The trailer has a gross weight of 7600lb and a measured tongue weight of 1100lb. We upgraded to the 2500 because my payload was over on my 1500. Some of you know my truck is now in the shop after 10K with a lifter issue. This has me concerned about the strength and longevity of the 6.4L engine and I am thinking of trading it in on a diesel 2500. What do you guys think?

When not towing the trips are around town and trips that are under 50mph. This is why we purchased the 6.4L in the first place since I heard this is not really good for a diesel engine. My current truck has no issues pulling my trailers or doing what I want, just concerned with the motor.

Advice is welcomed.

Thanks everyone
Joe

I'm thinking of the same thing. I have always had diesels in the past and in early 2020 I went with the 6.4 because I was worried about emissions issues with the Cummins I had. Now thinking of going back to cummins because of all the lifter/cam issues I keep hearing about with the hemi. I drive only 1 mile to work and never had an issue with my cummins doing that for 2 years. I also would tow our 5th wheel maybe once a month during about a 5 month window in iowa that is good enough weather to go camping. This time, if I do trade I will have the wife drive it to work since she drives 15 miles 1 way at a minimum. I would drive her durango to work. I feel like we would have good luck emissions wise doing it this way.

 

[turkeybird56]

OP asking if U should get a Diesel is like asking which oil, air and oil filter should I run, LOL.

The big thing on Diesel is they need to be worked regularly. One of the reasons why I got rid of my ED. But U do what works for U.

 

[flashman252]

OP asking if U should get a Diesel is like asking which oil, air and oil filter should I run, LOL.

The big thing on Diesel is they need to be worked regularly. One of the reasons why I got rid of my ED. But U do what works for U.

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[Joe Merchak]

OP asking if U should get a Diesel is like asking which oil, air and oil filter should I run, LOL.

The big thing on Diesel is they need to be worked regularly. One of the reasons why I got rid of my ED. But U do what works for U.

Yes I know, but I did not get a diesel at first because when not towing or going to work (WFH 90%) the truck sits. What I am really asking is getting a diesel smart since the trailer I have is not real heavy and the fact wont be giving it alot of chances to regen. I guess would I be hurting the diesel worse by the type of using I am doing ver the fear I have with my gas engine now since they had to take it apart after 10K.

 

[ramffml]

Yes I know, but I did not get a diesel at first because when not towing or going to work (WFH 90%) the truck sits. What I am really asking is getting a diesel smart since the trailer I have is not real heavy and the fact wont be giving it alot of chances to regen. I guess would I be hurting the diesel worse by the type of using I am doing ver the fear I have with my gas engine now since they had to take it apart after 10K.

Financially, you were betting off making that decision before you purchased your truck. Now you're better off running your gasser, and taking care of it really well. Do 5000 to 7000 mile oil changes (under no circumstances should you just blindly follow the oil monitor, track it with mileage). Put in the best oil you can afford, guys on this forum heavily recommend Redline 5w-30, I used that but run "HPL no vii" right now, but get something with a lot of moly.

Your use case is hard on modern diesels. There is a heavy duty diesel mechanic on YT:
https://www.youtube.com/@TheGettyAdventures

He loves cummins, but fixes them daily, and would never recommend a modern diesel for your use case. They need to be driven hard.

So it's a risk for you: the risk of getting hemi tick (which is very low, all things considered, and can be lowered by doing proper OCI with a good 5w-30 or 0w-40 oil), vs getting diesel emissions issues (which is much higher and probably more expensive, IMHO given your use case).

 

[Joe Merchak]

Financially, you were betting off making that decision before you purchased your truck. Now you're better off running your gasser, and taking care of it really well. Do 5000 to 7000 mile oil changes (under no circumstances should you just blindly follow the oil monitor, track it with mileage). Put in the best oil you can afford, guys on this forum heavily recommend Redline 5w-30, I used that but run "HPL no vii" right now, but get something with a lot of moly.

Your use case is hard on modern diesels. There is a heavy duty diesel mechanic on YT:
https://www.youtube.com/@TheGettyAdventures

He loves cummins, but fixes them daily, and would never recommend a modern diesel for your use case. They need to be driven hard.

So it's a risk for you: the risk of getting hemi tick (which is very low, all things considered), vs getting diesel emissions issues (which is much higher and probably more expensive, IMHO given your use case).

Thats the thing, the oil was changed at the dealer ever 5K, in fact it was just changed prior to the failure.

Thank you for the info, from all of you. It does help.

 

[ramffml]

Thats the thing, the oil was changed at the dealer ever 5K, in fact it was just changed prior to the failure.

Thank you for the info, from all of you. It does help.

What oil are you running?