What Ram should I buy?

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PVilefort

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Before you buy a RAM you need to know that there are class action lawsuits over engine failures that FCA has not been able to fix and it continues to put the failing engines in the new vehicles. This involves the 3.6 Pentastar V6 and the 5.7L & 6.4L hemi engines.
Here is some information on the hemi engine lawsuit. https://mycarvoice.com/news/hemi-problems-leads-to-class-action-lawsuit/
 

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Before you buy a RAM you need to know that there are class action lawsuits over engine failures that FCA has not been able to fix and it continues to put the failing engines in the new vehicles. This involves the 3.6 Pentastar V6 and the 5.7L & 6.4L hemi engines.
Here is some information on the hemi engine lawsuit. https://mycarvoice.com/news/hemi-problems-leads-to-class-action-lawsuit/

Class actions just mean some lawyer decided he could make a bunch of money for not much effort if he can get them to settle. Hardly unique to Ram.
 

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The original post indicates they have had 3/4 yin vehicles so assume they would know what to expect, but I have to say my newer 2500 rides as good as my cousin's 1500, so offered as an option.

I'm not saying a 3/4 ton's ride is objectionable these days, but unless you're driving on table top smooth roads all the time it will not ride as well as a similar 1/2 ton. The physics of dampening the movement of heavy AF solid front axle vs IFS guarantees that even without figuring spring rate, tire sidewall flex, etc. Hit a nice pothole in a sweeping curve and there's no way you can't tell a difference in ride and handling between the two. Get a passenger with a low cut top and some calibrated sweater puppies and drive expansion joints to see which one creates more jiggle. This is a fun test which may need to be repeated a few times. For science.

The absolute best ride in a truck I've personally tried is the current Chevy 1500 ZR2. Specifically has to be the ZR2, as it's the only one with the DSSV shock package. That thing floats over rough terrain. A lot of other stuff about the truck was not to my liking, but the ride is *chef's kiss* and the 6.2L/10 speed is a great combination.
 

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Greetings from Florida. 58 years old, not a gearhead but like to tinker, do things myself, and am very particular (since I can't use the anatomical word) about researching things I'm looking to buy, gathering opinions, etc. before pulling the trigger.

In my life I've owned and operated various cars and trucks (Olds, Toyota, Ford, Chevy, Suzuki, Honda) but never a Dodge product.

I've had two 2004 2500 series Suburbans, a v6 Ford F150, an F250 (2008 with v10), and currently a 2015 Expedition with the EcoBoost.

Recently on a trip while towing my travel trailer (5500 pounds) for the first time, we got stranded 4 hours from home when the transmission took a dump. I've put a bit of money recently into the Expedition (brakes, tune up, ironically the transmission service (drain, filter, fill - this MIGHT have caused this issue if done improperly but I'll never be able to prove it)) and the wife likes it a lot so we're going to get a new transmission and keep chugging along.

My other vehicle is a 2014 Prius that I use around town, commuting to work (5 miles one way). 3 days after our little experience with the Expy I got rear-ended on my way to work by an uninsured driver. Due to age I didn't have collision on my Prius so I'm stuck with the repair bill. I got damn lucky it wasn't totalled and I wasn't seriously injured.

We've decided we are going to replace it with a full sized truck for safety, utility, and as another tow vehicle for our trailer and boat (which would allow us to bring both with us on vacation).

Since I've owned Ford and GM trucks/large SUVs, I decided to perhaps give the other guys a try. I'm not interested in Nissans, and Toyota Tundras seem . . . . overpriced and the seats and interior comforts seem sub-par. I know they are "reliable" but they just aren't singing to me. GMs are . . . . sort of pathetic in my humble opinion. I'm a little leery now of Fords after my side-of-the-road experience with the Expy, though that may not have been Ford's fault if the people who did my transmission service screwed something up.

This leads me to this forum. Obviously you guys own Rams and are biased, but I'd love to hear some opinions.

My needs:

I only commute to work 10 miles a day (5 each way). When we take long trips, we are using our 2015 Expedition (73,000 miles). I have a 5000 pound travel trailer (empty, so maybe add another 500-1000 if weighted down with items) that is about 23 feet total in length. I also have a 20 foot Tritoon with a 90hp Suzuki, probably about 4000-4500 pounds total. My other car is a 2014 Prius with 100k on it. I use it primarily for driving to work and occasional errands, but most of the long trips I'm using the Expedition for comfort and safety, or I'm towing.

I've been wanting to get a truck to replace the Prius. 10 miles a day commuting is nothing, and even though I get 45 mpg in the Prius, and get about 18 in the Expedition, in the grand scheme of things it isn't a huge deal overall given how few miles it is. I've been thinking about a truck for backup towing, and also to allow me AND the wife to tow both the travel trailer and the boat when we go on trips.

I've since decided against the Tundra for many reasons (cost, difficulty finding what I want, and seat comfort). Given my usage of perhaps less than 5k a year of driving, I just can't justify the extra $$ for one. What do I care if I'll get another 100k out of it if I am realistically only going to put 50k on it in the next 10 years?

I've owned a 2008 F250, a 2011 F150 v6, a few 2500 Suburbans (2004), and now a 2015 Expedition with Ecoboost.

Never owned a Ram. I read good things about them from 2020 and on (not sure I want to dip my toe into the EcoDiesel, especially given how little I drive, short commutes, etc.) but the Hemi is solid, I believe. The one thing a lot of people mention is COMFORT of the Rams, and I know that is important to my wife (and me, honestly, as I am 58 and not getting younger, and my job involves a lot of heavy lifting, I'm tall, and I like the idea of a comfortable road experience).

I know either the F150 (either 5.0 or Eco) is popular and has a lot of good things going for it, but my recent experience with losing a transmission at 73k miles, not to mention the "cheap" feel of the interior and components and niggling little things over the years with the various Fords I have had has me thinking of giving the Ram a try.

Always appreciate your opinions, guys - thank you.
You will hear lots of opinions in this and other forums. I own three Dodge trucks: A 2004 3/4 ton diesel; a 2006 1/2 ton 3rd gen Hemi; and a 2009 1/2 ton 4th gen Hemi. I've done all the work on the 04 and 09 since I bought them new and more or less totally rebuilt the 06. They all have between 190k and 290k miles on them. My opinion for what it's worth: Dodge does not and probably never did build dependable vehicles, UNLESS you compare them to Ford and GM; in which case they look pretty good.

If I were you I'd go with the Toyota.
 

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Why should you buy a Ram?? You shouldn't. Buy whatever you like and want.
 
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I ended up with a 2020 Ram Laramie with 5.7 Hemi. 60k miles. The test drive blew me away - the Hemi + the 8 speed transmission were a dream, and it really looks like (to this semi-gearhead tinkerer) that working on it is going to be a LOT easier than the Expedition or any of the more modern "shove as many hoses, gadgets, parts, wires, etc.) in as small a space as possible. Just for peace-of-mind I got an Endurance 60 month warranty that covers practically everything, but it is month-to-month so I can cancel at any time. My total price, including warranty, and factoring in my sale of the Prius, equates to me spending about $21,000 to swap out the Prius for the Ram with a 5 year warranty. Not bad.
 

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I wouldn’t buy a Toyota without researching them first. Lots of turbo problems with the new models and if you are wanting a roomy interior the Toyota is noticeably tighter. An older V8 Tundra might be good buy.


But I agree that RAM can’t be considered a highly reliable make - unless comparing it to Ford or GM.
 

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I ended up with a 2020 Ram Laramie with 5.7 Hemi. 60k miles. The test drive blew me away - the Hemi + the 8 speed transmission were a dream, and it really looks like (to this semi-gearhead tinkerer) that working on it is going to be a LOT easier than the Expedition or any of the more modern "shove as many hoses, gadgets, parts, wires, etc.) in as small a space as possible. Just for peace-of-mind I got an Endurance 60 month warranty that covers practically everything, but it is month-to-month so I can cancel at any time. My total price, including warranty, and factoring in my sale of the Prius, equates to me spending about $21,000 to swap out the Prius for the Ram with a 5 year warranty. Not bad.

Congrats on the truck. The 5.7/8 speed is a great combo.

That said, extended warranties suck and 3rd party ones suck more. I used to work in the industry and they have worse payouts than casinos. Huge profit margin for the seller, though. Personally I'd give the truck a good going over for any unusual noises or wear, maybe get an oil analysis, then if no issues cancel immediately and just bank money in case of needed repairs.
 
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Congrats on the truck. The 5.7/8 speed is a great combo.

That said, extended warranties suck and 3rd party ones suck more. I used to work in the industry and they have worse payouts than casinos. Huge profit margin for the seller, though. Personally I'd give the truck a good going over for any unusual noises or wear, maybe get an oil analysis, then if no issues cancel immediately and just bank money in case of needed repairs.
Am definitely going to consider that.
 

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Telling a fellow what brand to buy is about the same as telling him what brand of beer to drink
Btw scotch was mine
I did pay for extra insurance and of course never used it
I have never had any warranty work done on any of my Rams/ Dodge
But never needed fire or live insurance :)

Btw, the last consumers report I got was not happy with the Tundra’s
 

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Within 100 miles of me there are at least a dozen new '23s still on the lots. Use Auto Trader to search. End of year would be a good time to buy. Be merciless when you negotiate with the dealers. They deserve it. '23 was the first year the E-torque was mandatory though on the 5.7
 

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If I was you, I'd look for a 1500 classic with the hemi. I would stay away from the v6, the etorque and the hurricane. Or wait till the new models come out with the new v8. Speculation is CJRD is reducing prices 35% for 2026 models and you will get better options
I’d say speculation is being generous for what that statement is. Prices coming down 35% for 2026… who told you that? Biden?
 

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I think you've already found the perfect truck; get a 5th gen 1500 with the 5.7 hemi, I prefer one without ETorque but you can't find those new anymore. The 1500 has more than enough to support your towing needs, while being very comfortable to use as a daily driver. I tow a similar sized trailer and have 0 issues.

You can’t get a new 5.7 Hemi…they’re discontinued, replaced by the Hurricane engine…which tho’ a recent introduction, has good reviews.

I suggest a Ram 2500 with a gasoline engine, perhaps the Hurricane, for payload. But be aware the 2500 is a H.D. suspension and not a “luxury-ride” suspension. It’s good…it’s comfy…but it’s H.D.

Prices should be easily negotiable right now as LOTS of unsold PU/s are sitting on lots right now.
 

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I suggest a Ram 2500 with a gasoline engine, perhaps the Hurricane

There is no Hurricane option for 2500s *yet*, though it may be moving that way. Still the 6.4L Hemi.
 

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Seems to me a 1500 is a great truck for you, great towing and extremely comfy and refined. The EcoDiesel is not a bad engine, but you do NOT drive enough miles and ownership to justify owning one. It will regen just when you are pulling into your driveway and create frustration. Just decide on a Hemi (great engine) or one of the new I6's, which appear to be good as well. I've owned a 2016 EcoDiesel Longhorn and a 2020 5.7 Hemi Longhorn. Both trucks towed, the EcoDiesel slightly better, transmissions are very solid. Pick the trim that suits your need and you shouldn't be disappointed. I bought my 2016 brand new and the 2020 3 years old, both have been incredibly reliable and great trucks overall.
 
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