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Ha! #4 was owned by Jerry Werden who knew the owner of the wheel company I used to work for. He had #4 taken to our warehouse to test fit wheels and tire packages (Pirelli) for both their companies.

The owner of that wheel company wanted to buy #4 but Jerry didn't want to sell it lol .... after that they stopped doing business together lol ....

But that #4 was something else, just the sound of that engine was a goose bumps maker lol ...
 
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Ha! #4 was owned by Jerry Werden who knew the owner of the wheel company I used to work for. He had #4 taken to our warehouse to test fit wheels and tire packages (Pirelli) for both their companies.

The owner of that wheel company wanted to buy #4 but Jerry didn't want to sell it lol .... after that they stopped doing business together lol ....

But that #4 was something else, just the sound of that engine was a goose bumps maker lol ...
As a AMC fan,the smallblock AMC 8's with a big cam were one tough sounding engine.I ran a healthy 401 in a 74 HornetX for a few years in the late 80's early 90's,and it was probably one of the best sounding engines i ever heard idling.
 
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As a AMC fan,the smallblock AMC 8's with a big cam were one tough sounding engine.I ran a healthy 401 in a 74 HornetX for a few years in the late 80's early 90's,and it was probably one of the best sounding engines i ever heard idling.
I never knew about these until Jerry showed up at the warehouse with it, I remember both of the talking about the 360ci V-8 it had in it which is why Don my boss wanted to buy it ... Jerry bought it for $9k !!! Don offered him $200k and Jerry still said no lol .... but I think it's because he actually didn't own it anymore, some German guy was rumored to had already bought it from Jerry by then and this was in 1997 ....
 
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I did read that #4 could of had the 401 but wasn't ready and the 390 wasn't being built anymore right ? .... I don't remember where I read about that ....
It's in the article,lol


AMX/3 #4: Painted teal-blue, this car was finished to show quality by Diomante and Bizzarrini for the Turn auto salon in the fall of 1970. Considered the production prototype, it was the first to have a revised body including four inch longer rear quarter panels, bigger fender flares, full side glass, semi-concealed windshield wipers with a raised cowl, and different hood vents for the radiator. It also lost the active, pop-up rear spoiler, a novel feature that wouldn’t show up on production cars for decades. Number 4 and number six had the smaller 360ci V-8 installed, possibly for budget reasons or because by then the 390 had ceased production but the 401 wasn’t yet available. Purchased for $9,000 by Jerry Werden and Bill Demichielli in 1971, according to one source it remained in Werden’s possession until his death in 2018 and was sold to an anonymous collector who bought it from the Werden trust in 2020. Hemmings, though, has Demichielli selling #4 in 1976, with it later passing into the possession of Walter Kirtland of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, in 1989, who subsequently sold it to a German collector in 2014.
 
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It's in the article,lol


AMX/3 #4: Painted teal-blue, this car was finished to show quality by Diomante and Bizzarrini for the Turn auto salon in the fall of 1970. Considered the production prototype, it was the first to have a revised body including four inch longer rear quarter panels, bigger fender flares, full side glass, semi-concealed windshield wipers with a raised cowl, and different hood vents for the radiator. It also lost the active, pop-up rear spoiler, a novel feature that wouldn’t show up on production cars for decades. Number 4 and number six had the smaller 360ci V-8 installed, possibly for budget reasons or because by then the 390 had ceased production but the 401 wasn’t yet available. Purchased for $9,000 by Jerry Werden and Bill Demichielli in 1971, according to one source it remained in Werden’s possession until his death in 2018 and was sold to an anonymous collector who bought it from the Werden trust in 2020. Hemmings, though, has Demichielli selling #4 in 1976, with it later passing into the possession of Walter Kirtland of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, in 1989, who subsequently sold it to a German collector in 2014.
That is it! ...

So I think Jerry didn't sell because that guy Walter owned it back then which makes sense now that I read the article again ....

Wonder who owns it now though ... fawk, it's changed hands a lot lol ..
 

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A great thread. I remember those days. Didn't know that much about the mid engine AMCs. Especially nice to hear about CheechDogg's personal experiences.

I had a neighbor car salesman who wanted me to buy a Pantera he had on display. After I drove that Pantera I thought if I own this car I'll either die in a crash, be in jail for excessive speeding, go broke paying for tickets, or my wife might divorce me. ;)
 
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A great thread. I remember those days. Didn't know that much about the mid engine AMCs. Especially nice to hear about CheechDogg's personal experiences.

I had a neighbor car salesman who wanted me to buy a Pantera he had on display. After I drove that Pantera I thought if I own this car I'll either die in a crash, be in jail for excessive speeding, go broke paying for tickets, or my wife might divorce me. ;)
John, I wish I could of driven it ... back then honestly I really had no clue what the big deal about that #4 was lol ... only after I saw that the partnership they had going went south did I find out what the big deal about that #4 was ... Don the owner "My Boss" was so pissed that he refused to sell wheels to people that new Jerry lol ...
 

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John, I wish I could of driven it ... back then honestly I really had no clue what the big deal about that #4 was lol ... only after I saw that the partnership they had going went south did I find out what the big deal about that #4 was ... Don the owner "My Boss" was so pissed that he refused to sell wheels to people that new Jerry lol ...
That's pretty pissed all right. Wish you had driven it, you would be our hero today
 

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Boy, I don't remember that. I just shudder when I think of Ramblers and Gremlins.
Amos Johnson and Team Highball ran Gremlins and AMXs in IMSA fairly successfully before switching to Mazdas. Amos ran two AMC Spirits at the 24 Hours of Nurburgring and picked up a class win.

Of course as Amos admitted later, the Germans had to create a class for the cars since they didn't fit in any of the established classes...

I'm old enough to remember these but I don't think I ever knew about them. Thanks for posting!
 

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A great thread. I remember those days. Didn't know that much about the mid engine AMCs. Especially nice to hear about CheechDogg's personal experiences.

I had a neighbor car salesman who wanted me to buy a Pantera he had on display. After I drove that Pantera I thought if I own this car I'll either die in a crash, be in jail for excessive speeding, go broke paying for tickets, or my wife might divorce me. ;)
I saw the Pantera at the New York Auto Show. Somewhere around 70-71. Dam I wanted that car! It cost $10,000 or so as I remember. I would have tried to get a loan if I wasn't living in NYC at the time. Hated that place. Sorry Nyakers. I had a 69 Cougar with the 428 Cobra Jet at the time. NYC streets ate the ball joints in that car every year. I finally moved to Houston. Oh and my NYC wife did divorce me :D
 

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Had a 65 Daytona with 4 speed, brother still has it, ran a few AMC and Studs, later years Dad was restoring a couple
I remember seeing a article about those cars.
 
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Had a 65 Daytona with 4 speed, brother still has it, ran a few AMC and Studs, later years Dad was restoring a couple
I remember seeing a article about those cars.
You're brother has one of the 6 Shelby Daytona's,i find that a bit hard to believe,so post some pic's of it.


 
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