The Ram 1500 Classic Was a Strange Experiment — But It Worked

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The Ram 1500 Classic Was a Strange Experiment — But It Worked​

Story by Zac Palmer
5 min read


When the pickup truck we now know as the Ram 1500 Classic first entered production, George W. Bush was still president of the United States. Its sales life stretched across touched three decades before Ram finally announced its discontinuation back in August of this year, as the new Hurricane-powered 2025 Ram 1500 hit the market. Simply put, it was the truck that simply wouldn’t die.

A 16-year lifetime is shockingly long for any vehicle, but the Classic's story is a strange one by any sort of modern new-car standard. It officially shifted from oddball dinosaur to automotive anomaly back in 2019, when Ram decided to keep producing it (in Warren, Michigan) simultaneously with the totally new Ram 1500 (built in Sterling Heights, MI) at a plant literally less than 10 miles down the road from the new truck’s assembly line. And this wasn’t just a single model year overlap; Ram produced the previous generation 1500 throughout the entire lifespan of the next-gen pickup. Imagine if you could still buy the previous-generation C7 Chevrolet Corvette brand-new off the dealer lot today, warranty and all. That would be weird, right?

Effectively, that’s what Ram’s been up to. Yes, there was a refresh in the mid-2010s, but the Ram 1500 Classic is essentially a pre-Obama truck still being sold in 2024. The man who led development for the original DS-generation Ram 1500 (later renamed Classic) was Carl Lally, and he’s still with Ram today. Here in late 2024, Lally goes by the fancier title of Vice President Global Ram Sales, but there’s no person more qualified to talk Ram Classic than him.

“The time that we rolled that thing out it was like three or four presidents ago,” Lally recalls. “It’s one of those trivia questions, like, who was president when that truck was introduced?”

Fast forward to the introduction of the next-generation Ram 1500 for the 2019 model year, which the moment when the 1500 went from simply a great-riding pickup to the king of all luxury trucks. It was a sea change that caused other truck manufacturers to step up their refinement efforts to match the Ram on the playing field. That transition upwards had another effect, though; prices jumped, and Ram dropped the entry-level Tradesman trim.

“When we launched the new Ram 1500, the DT generation, as we call it back in 2018 for the 2019 model year, it made all the sense in the world to keep that DS generation of the truck around,” Lally explained. “Felt that it really made a lot of sense to let us continue to go after the value-oriented buyer. At that lower end, the vocational oriented buyer, looking for a Tradesman type of work truck.”

Ram plainly told us that it doesn’t break out sales between the Classic and other Rams, but the Classic’s presence on the market for so many years tells the story. Dealers ordered the Classic in droves to serve more budget-oriented new truck buyers; fleets saw it as a great way to get brand-new trucks on a proven platform. If you wanted a two-door regular cab Ram half-ton, it was the only way to get one.

The Classic was a low-investment pickup for Ram, allowing prices to stay low and, presumably, profits to roll in. But Ram didn't leave it to wither away, either. The company saw fit to add an off-road Warlock trim for 2021, an the 8.4-inch UConnect 4 infotainment system arrived as an option that year, too. Then just one year later, UConnect 5 joined the party, bringing wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. (We bet engineers didn’t have that on the product roadmap when this truck was conceived.)

“So there were minor changes,” Lally told Road & Track. “But it was, I would say, generally, you know, not that heavy investment because whenever we wanted to showcase new technology, the new truck lends itself to that.”

Beyond product updates, one of the toughest parts about selling two trucks that look similar and have the same basic name was simple customer education.

“We had to explain to our dealers and then obviously, explain to the customers, that we've got two trucks called the Ram 1500 of the same model year, but they're not the same truck,” Lally says. “So there's some natural opportunity for confusion there. If you go back to 2018-2019, I think we really had a bit of a learning curve to kind of figure that out over time.”

Truck enthusiasts figured things out quickly enough, and the multi-pronged pickup approach helped Ram put together some epic years of truck sales; it managed to beat the Chevrolet Silverado from 2019–2022, only giving up its second-place throne in 2023.

When asked if Ram would be open to employing the “Classic” strategy into the future, though, Lally squashed the idea.

“So I would take the scenario that we're now looking at, with just the one truck that has this compelling offering at the lower end,” Lally starts. “I think that's the ideal way to do it. Classic was the right answer at that time, but I would stick with where we are today I think, as far as how we move forward.”

The new DT-generation Ram 1500 Tradesman, which is replacing the Classic at the lower end of the lineup.© Stellantis
The compelling offer at the lower end Lally is talking about is the 2025 model year Tradesman (pictured above) that starts at $42,270. For comparison’s sake, that’s only $1,570 more than the totally stripper-spec 2024 Ram 1500 Classic Tradesman. Of course, the new one has a laundry list of additional features and standard equipment compared to the old version, not to mention the option of the potent Hurricane twin-turbo inline-six instead of the 3.6-liter Pentastar V-6.

With the price gap being as small as it is and the equipment gap being as wide as it is, Lally said that the time was right to finally say goodbye to the Classic. It’s an argument that’s tough to disagree with; the last real leg Ram’s Classic has to stand on is the 5.7-liter Hemi V-8, which is still available in the Classic but not in the refreshed 2025 pickup. But it’s officially the end of the line now — and with that we bid adieu to what was easily one of the strangest automotive sales experiments of the 21st century.


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I'm very partial to the "Classic" styling.
I find it very distinctive in its body lines, stance, and overall compelling (for me anyways) styling.
I bought my 19' new and put almost 5 years on her and call it 170,000Km's of virtually zero issues (say for the Uconnect and exhaust manifold...but who cares...trivial tid-bits).
I then got my new Warlock SLT at the end of February this year and absolutely love it!
Big step up in trim level from my 19' Express Sport blackout series, but still a "Classic" line truck.
I get going to the new styling, and while I don't hate it; I don't love it either, but it's growing on me...a little ;)
Either way, the Classic styling was then and still is today, a unique and distinctive design that, in my opinion, really set the Ram's apart from the others.
 

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Decent article but it has errors. The Tradesman didn't go away with the new Ram 1500. I could be mistaken for 2019, but I don't believe they ever dropped it the entire time the 1500 Classic was available.

I'm very partial to the "Classic" styling.
I find it very distinctive in its body lines, stance, and overall compelling (for me anyways) styling.
I bought my 19' new and put almost 5 years on her and call it 170,000Km's of virtually zero issues (say for the Uconnect and exhaust manifold...but who cares...trivial tid-bits).
I then got my new Warlock SLT at the end of February this year and absolutely love it!
Big step up in trim level from my 19' Express Sport blackout series, but still a "Classic" line truck.
I get going to the new styling, and while I don't hate it; I don't love it either, but it's growing on me...a little ;)
Either way, the Classic styling was then and still is today, a unique and distinctive design that, in my opinion, really set the Ram's apart from the others.
I agree. Ram really nailed it with the 4th gens.
 

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IMG_3164.jpegIMG_0101.jpegWe looked at everything available in 19.The only thing that I wanted was a 8’ bed,some chrome and a V8 that could accept 7-8 lbs without lower end work.The thin metal and rotary shifter weak trans and - that’s all I got. it’s a tradesman and was cheap,my 09 Silverado work truck had a dog of a v6 and crank windows.
 

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I wish they would've kept the classic body style, and just have updated the interiors.

That style Ram is unmistakeable, you know what it is from a mile away. I do not totally dislike the 5th gen, even though the 4th gen looks better, IMO. Plus the loss of the Hemi powerplant is a mistake as well.
 

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View attachment 554152View attachment 554153We looked at everything available in 19.The only thing that I wanted was a 8’ bed,some chrome and a V8 that could accept 7-8 lbs without lower end work.The thin metal and rotary shifter weak trans and - that’s all I got. it’s a tradesman and was cheap,my 09 Silverado work truck had a dog of a v6 and crank windows.
Siccc Sleeper!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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The classic got me, was a tough choice but the main deciding factor was not wanting E torque at time of building. Crew cab 6’4 box. Don’t see many of them at all anywhere.
 

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The classic got me, was a tough choice but the main deciding factor was not wanting E torque at time of building. Crew cab 6’4 box. Don’t see many of them at all anywhere.
Think that was bad I spent a lot of time trying to get a GM 8’ 2dr.4x4 then ford Toyota ect. But same thing in august when we wanted a truck alternative that had a lot of specs we wanted and after giving up on a grand Cherokee because they couldn’t get us the hemi,and wound up with caddy.
 

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I think it's wild that the Rams had that unique look in the front, starting in 1997, and not too long after that, all the other manufacturers started making their trucks look similar to the Ram.

Then, Ram changed things so that they no longer had that distinct look, and instead started looking like everyone else's trucks.
 

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Great read! I started liking Ram trucks when they came out in 95. At that time, as a 19 year old, it was not a practical vehicle to own, so I never bought one. When the 3rd gen came out, I was not a fan at all. When the 4th gen came to market, I felt Ram did an exceptional job of getting the interior and exterior styling perfect!

The 5th gen is nice, but I still am not a fan of the front end look. Recently, a full size truck had been on my radar, as it was a more practical vehicle for this point in my life. I had been looking at the Silverado’s because their styling is really nice, but the prices for the options I wanted(4 doors, 8cyl engine, 4wd) were through the roof. Just about every one I found was a 4cyl with a $45-55k price tag.

Leaving a Chevy dealership, I passed by a local Ram dealer. They had a beautiful ‘18 quad cab sitting out front. I immediately thought, the truck looked far from good, it was actually far from good. I decided to stop in and check it out. There are times in your life when you look back and think, “damn, that was a good idea”.

I ended up purchasing it that day. It had everything I was looking for. Low miles(21k), 4 doors, 8cyl engine, 4wd…. a brand new topper. The icing to the cake was that I only paid $22k! I saved $20k+ by getting this truck.
 

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In general, I don’t like the look of the 4th gen. But my 3rd gen (2003) died this year. While it was at the dealer, for 6 weeks being worked on, they loaned me 3 different 5th gen. I did not like driving them at all. I was in a conundrum - about to look at a Ford or GMC. On Memorial Day the dealer just happened to have a sale and just happened to have Black 24 Warlock 4x4 with 5.7 Hemi. Literally the only ram that has piqued my interest since my 03. I pulled the trigger and love it. Funny thing, the tech, while severely lacking the 5th gen and my wife’s 24 genesis, is vastly superior to what I was driving.
 

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Nothing wrong with the Classic. Has everything a person needs in a truck and at the time was the cheapest full-size on the market. Ours just crossed 50k miles and hasn't given a lick of trouble in our five years of ownership. Will probably keep it for five more unless they offer 0% financing on the 2500s. I have no desire for etorque or a Hurricane.
 

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The Ram 1500 Classic Was a Strange Experiment — But It Worked​

Story by Zac Palmer
5 min read


When the pickup truck we now know as the Ram 1500 Classic first entered production, George W. Bush was still president of the United States. Its sales life stretched across touched three decades before Ram finally announced its discontinuation back in August of this year, as the new Hurricane-powered 2025 Ram 1500 hit the market. Simply put, it was the truck that simply wouldn’t die.

A 16-year lifetime is shockingly long for any vehicle, but the Classic's story is a strange one by any sort of modern new-car standard. It officially shifted from oddball dinosaur to automotive anomaly back in 2019, when Ram decided to keep producing it (in Warren, Michigan) simultaneously with the totally new Ram 1500 (built in Sterling Heights, MI) at a plant literally less than 10 miles down the road from the new truck’s assembly line. And this wasn’t just a single model year overlap; Ram produced the previous generation 1500 throughout the entire lifespan of the next-gen pickup. Imagine if you could still buy the previous-generation C7 Chevrolet Corvette brand-new off the dealer lot today, warranty and all. That would be weird, right?

Effectively, that’s what Ram’s been up to. Yes, there was a refresh in the mid-2010s, but the Ram 1500 Classic is essentially a pre-Obama truck still being sold in 2024. The man who led development for the original DS-generation Ram 1500 (later renamed Classic) was Carl Lally, and he’s still with Ram today. Here in late 2024, Lally goes by the fancier title of Vice President Global Ram Sales, but there’s no person more qualified to talk Ram Classic than him.

“The time that we rolled that thing out it was like three or four presidents ago,” Lally recalls. “It’s one of those trivia questions, like, who was president when that truck was introduced?”

Fast forward to the introduction of the next-generation Ram 1500 for the 2019 model year, which the moment when the 1500 went from simply a great-riding pickup to the king of all luxury trucks. It was a sea change that caused other truck manufacturers to step up their refinement efforts to match the Ram on the playing field. That transition upwards had another effect, though; prices jumped, and Ram dropped the entry-level Tradesman trim.

“When we launched the new Ram 1500, the DT generation, as we call it back in 2018 for the 2019 model year, it made all the sense in the world to keep that DS generation of the truck around,” Lally explained. “Felt that it really made a lot of sense to let us continue to go after the value-oriented buyer. At that lower end, the vocational oriented buyer, looking for a Tradesman type of work truck.”

Ram plainly told us that it doesn’t break out sales between the Classic and other Rams, but the Classic’s presence on the market for so many years tells the story. Dealers ordered the Classic in droves to serve more budget-oriented new truck buyers; fleets saw it as a great way to get brand-new trucks on a proven platform. If you wanted a two-door regular cab Ram half-ton, it was the only way to get one.

The Classic was a low-investment pickup for Ram, allowing prices to stay low and, presumably, profits to roll in. But Ram didn't leave it to wither away, either. The company saw fit to add an off-road Warlock trim for 2021, an the 8.4-inch UConnect 4 infotainment system arrived as an option that year, too. Then just one year later, UConnect 5 joined the party, bringing wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. (We bet engineers didn’t have that on the product roadmap when this truck was conceived.)

“So there were minor changes,” Lally told Road & Track. “But it was, I would say, generally, you know, not that heavy investment because whenever we wanted to showcase new technology, the new truck lends itself to that.”

Beyond product updates, one of the toughest parts about selling two trucks that look similar and have the same basic name was simple customer education.

“We had to explain to our dealers and then obviously, explain to the customers, that we've got two trucks called the Ram 1500 of the same model year, but they're not the same truck,” Lally says. “So there's some natural opportunity for confusion there. If you go back to 2018-2019, I think we really had a bit of a learning curve to kind of figure that out over time.”

Truck enthusiasts figured things out quickly enough, and the multi-pronged pickup approach helped Ram put together some epic years of truck sales; it managed to beat the Chevrolet Silverado from 2019–2022, only giving up its second-place throne in 2023.

When asked if Ram would be open to employing the “Classic” strategy into the future, though, Lally squashed the idea.

“So I would take the scenario that we're now looking at, with just the one truck that has this compelling offering at the lower end,” Lally starts. “I think that's the ideal way to do it. Classic was the right answer at that time, but I would stick with where we are today I think, as far as how we move forward.”

The new DT-generation Ram 1500 Tradesman, which is replacing the Classic at the lower end of the lineup.© Stellantis
The compelling offer at the lower end Lally is talking about is the 2025 model year Tradesman (pictured above) that starts at $42,270. For comparison’s sake, that’s only $1,570 more than the totally stripper-spec 2024 Ram 1500 Classic Tradesman. Of course, the new one has a laundry list of additional features and standard equipment compared to the old version, not to mention the option of the potent Hurricane twin-turbo inline-six instead of the 3.6-liter Pentastar V-6.

With the price gap being as small as it is and the equipment gap being as wide as it is, Lally said that the time was right to finally say goodbye to the Classic. It’s an argument that’s tough to disagree with; the last real leg Ram’s Classic has to stand on is the 5.7-liter Hemi V-8, which is still available in the Classic but not in the refreshed 2025 pickup. But it’s officially the end of the line now — and with that we bid adieu to what was easily one of the strangest automotive sales experiments of the 21st century.


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My 2016 Ram 1500 Hemi BigHorn 4WD has 145k troublefree miles.Perform 5k OCF, serviced trans at 60 k intervals, diffs at 30 k, coolant and plugs at 90 k. Put a battery in it at about four years, never put brakes on it, third set of tires. Took it on an Alaska odyssey this year - 13,117.9 miles, averaged 21.5 mpg. It’ll be my last truck since I have the real MOPAR lifetime warranty. Best vehicle I’ve ever owned, including my two current Benzes. Cheers.
 

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The downside is they used up all the left over parts building the Classics,and now there's nothing left if you need to repair one.I read an article back about 19 and at the time FCA wanted to reduce inventory on left over 4th Gen parts,so the Classic was born to reduce that inventory,and that's starting to bite 4th Gen owners in the ^ss now.
 

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People forget , they did the same thing with the minivan. They kept producing the old RT platform for years after introducing the new RU minivan. Both were built in the same plant (Windsor Assembly) Even at the end the RT's were selling like hotcakes. The new ram is nice, but they no longer build what I want (reg cab shortbox 2wd ) so when the time is due I'll most likely be buying a Ford
 

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I came back to Dodge in 1994 when they brought out the redesigned 1500. That was a SHARP truck and still is. BUT in 2002 the 3rd gens were just NICE. So in 19 I bought my 1st new truck ever. I bought a Classic because the 5th gens look like Toyotas. They have grown on me but still not my cup of tea. So in 1/24 I bought a new 23 Classic again because it was the last of the run and the hemi. All of my RAMs and Dodge trucks have the hemis. Plus at my age I will probably never need another new truck again, because of the ones I have now. So Mopar or no car or no truck LOL
 

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I will not be buying Ram DT

I have had 2 DS Dodge Ram 1500 SLT Quad Cab,
both were New
a 2009 Dodge Ram SLT, i still see it driving by.
& now the 2016 Ram Bighorn SLT

Neither of them left me stranded & the 2009 broke down with a bad rear end, it was 100% the dealers fault.

I can not have a vehicle that is longer than a Quad Cab, anything longer & i would be partially blocking a sidewalk.

I dislike foreign vehicles, but the TRD, may be in my future, or not.

I can see myself in something like this

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It would not matter if it had the Wide Rear Window or not

although Ghost Flames would make it stand out
 

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My 36 k 19 classic is stored inside either on a 4 post or under it. No accidents only PDR 2 yrs ago. Little dents inner and outer and a good sized one on ds fender. Although it’s so thin it’s never going to stop getting dents,I took it to the place where my Audi was repaired.The estimate on the ram is 3 pages long and $3500. If anyone wants to see it I can post it.But I thought it was two or three dents.
 
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