Whoever designed this oil pan should be shot dead!

[HangmanNY]

Since I have the entire front end removed, there was some minor surface rust on the oil pan. I started with different types of wire wheel on a cordless drill. After about two hours, I realized there was a dent on one side. And it was a very minor surface crack
(@ 1/2”). On the inside, there was only a small dimple. But just trying to get the pan out the top edges got a little scraped up. A couple of years ago some ******* drop a 5 gallon bucket of joint compound on a main road. It was at night and I didn’t see it. I was cleaning up joint compound for weeks under there. So I’m assuming that’s possible where the dent came from (with a very small surface crack). I had no leaks.

I’ll probably try a new oil pan. Are any of them better than the rest? I already have some high heat primer and high heat black paint. Would there be anything wrong with giving a new oil pan a couple more coats?

I decided to remove the pan and that’s where my fun began! Not only did they have three different wiring, harnesses connected to studded pan bolts, but it requires removing eight bolts from a brace between the back of the oil tan and the transmission. And one of the bolts is behind another bracket. I watched one guy on YouTube who cut part of it away. I did not have a die grinder. So I went out there with a small grinding stone at the end of a drill. I even used the dremel at some point. It took forever, but I got cut a bit away to remove that last bolt.

Even breaking the seal on the oil pan took a long time. I see that they don’t sell just a gasket anymore and then it’s part of that other metal pan underneath. I see there’s the oil tube. Looks like two bolts. What else is required to remove that piece underneath the oil pan?

Looks like the factory put some RTV seal near the two back corners of the pan.

 

[yogibear18]

Yes, whatever cheap metal they used to make them and to rust at a fast rate rather then for the long haul, mine after 8 years looks like it sat in a salt bath and gotten cancer from it, I’ve seen 40-50 year old engines not even nearly the same amount of rust on them .. their is no quality in making anything anymore, just lets save a few pennies and make the consumer pay the bucks to replace it later, enough of my rant

 

[Wild one]

Since I have the entire front end removed, there was some minor surface rust on the oil pan. I started with different types of wire wheel on a cordless drill. After about two hours, I realized there was a dent on one side. And it was a very minor surface crack
(@ 1/2”). On the inside, there was only a small dimple. But just trying to get the pan out the top edges got a little scraped up. A couple of years ago some ******* drop a 5 gallon bucket of joint compound on a main road. It was at night and I didn’t see it. I was cleaning up joint compound for weeks under there. So I’m assuming that’s possible where the dent came from (with a very small surface crack). I had no leaks.

I’ll probably try a new oil pan. Are any of them better than the rest? I already have some high heat primer and high heat black paint. Would there be anything wrong with giving a new oil pan a couple more coats?

I decided to remove the pan and that’s where my fun began! Not only did they have three different wiring, harnesses connected to studded pan bolts, but it requires removing eight bolts from a brace between the back of the oil tan and the transmission. And one of the bolts is behind another bracket. I watched one guy on YouTube who cut part of it away. I did not have a die grinder. So I went out there with a small grinding stone at the end of a drill. I even used the dremel at some point. It took forever, but I got cut a bit away to remove that last bolt.

Even breaking the seal on the oil pan took a long time. I see that they don’t sell just a gasket anymore and then it’s part of that other metal pan underneath. I see there’s the oil tube. Looks like two bolts. What else is required to remove that piece underneath the oil pan?

Looks like the factory put some RTV seal near the two back corners of the pan.

The gasket is part of the windage tray,and you'll also want a new o-ring for the pick-up tube.Ma Mopar uses a dab of their good quality RTV on the pan corners including at the front where it intersects with the timing cover

 

[HangmanNY]

The gasket is part of the windage tray,and you'll also want a new o-ring for the pick-up tube.Ma Mopar uses a dab of their good quality RTV on the pan corners including at the front where it intersects with the timing

The gasket is part of the windage tray,and you'll also want a new o-ring for the pick-up tube.Ma Mopar uses a dab of their good quality RTV on the pan corners including at the front where it intersects with the timing cover

Is there any company making a better oil pan? Or are they all cheaply made?

 

[stenerson]

Is there any company making a better oil pan? Or are they all cheaply made?

PPE makes one for the 3.6L but I don't think they got one for the Hemi.

 

[HangmanNY]

PPE makes one for the 3.6L but I don't think they got one for the Hemi.

I wish they would. I have their transmission pan cover and rear differential cover

 

[diymirage]

Is there any company making a better oil pan? Or are they all cheaply made?

Whatever you do, do not get a milodon pan

Ever

I would trust a cardboard and duck taped pan made by my 7 year old over a milodon Pan

 

[HangmanNY]

Is there any company making a better oil pan? Or are they all cheaply made?

 

[HangmanNY]

The gasket is part of the windage tray,and you'll also want a new o-ring for the pick-up tube.Ma Mopar uses a dab of their good quality RTV on the pan corners including at the front where it intersects with the timing cover

The gasket is part of the windage tray,and you'll also want a new o-ring for the pick-up tube.Ma Mopar uses a dab of their good quality RTV on the pan corners including at the front where it intersects with the timing cover

Is it the two bolts (on the oil pickup tube) to remove that inner tray & gasket? Or is it more involved?

Felpro has a kit on rock auto . Looks like an o ring and a tube of RTV sealant.

 

[Wild one]

Is there any company making a better oil pan? Or are they all cheaply made?

Gen III Hemi Oil Pans 5.7, 6.1, 6.4 | 6.2 Hellcat Oil Pans

www.milodon.com

 

[Wild one]

Is it the two bolts (on the oil pickup tube) to remove that inner tray & gasket? Or is it more involved?

Felpro has a kit on rock auto . Looks like an o ring and a tube of RTV sealant.

I'd hit up the local dealer for the RTV and o-ring.
Wash the pick-up tube when you have it out.I use gas and my syphon wash gun hooked to my compressor,to wash them,but if you don't have that ability,wash it out a few times with brakeclean.

https://www.amazon.com/Guardair-79SG012-Syphon-Spray-Gun/dp/B01KWHZT9W?crid=36U3K3QWO4JZZ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.yS2KKKSFDDNlsHt2mGg-tjKE1P1y2PYNaTmLMvMMjlLN1ygM7l5p4XamO0iXllRmLqAbL-qqng11Gw3p2sqyErFpLAfakOUeRQCLqC3lx1YrRdV1ysRP-8v4YB5pqkhuPzCeHyCYF_x-z4WMhxOnWGDKOZ3a16h4mBYPbvHW2otXwc3H3EBsFKa2v83C2KxYxux5bAXQy28T9SMy-SJHTnOt3svtgKTUcYLSmIYpUzY5xFh7pc_gN_Ond9GDz5kZNv-MIXg5lO5sCV72GpkLMOALmmMXKEZSjjsrEgEFMiI.Zfo1UH1uF5i90_TwEzLvpiwnnRb3Bse94n6Cu3y3L2o&dib_tag=se&keywords=Guardair%2BPneumatic%2BSyphon%2BSolvent%2BSpray%2BGuns&qid=1774570860&s=hi&sprefix=guardair%2Bpneumatic%2Bsyphon%2Bsolvent%2Bspray%2Bguns%2Ctools%2C137&sr=1-1&th=1

 

[jws123]

Is it the two bolts (on the oil pickup tube) to remove that inner tray & gasket? Or is it more involved?

Felpro has a kit on rock auto . Looks like an o ring and a tube of RTV sealant.

yes just remove the pickup tube and it will come down. I personally have never had a pan rot on me and ive had a lot of hemis. I also live in the rust belt however I have seen some rot like crazy I just assume some are made here and some are made there whever that is lol cheap metal.

 

[HangmanNY]

I'd hit up the local dealer for the RTV and o-ring.
Wash the pick-up tube when you have it out.I use gas and my syphon wash gun hooked to my compressor,to wash them,but if you don't have that ability,wash it out a few times with brakeclean.

https://www.amazon.com/Guardair-79SG012-Syphon-Spray-Gun/dp/B01KWHZT9W?crid=36U3K3QWO4JZZ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.yS2KKKSFDDNlsHt2mGg-tjKE1P1y2PYNaTmLMvMMjlLN1ygM7l5p4XamO0iXllRmLqAbL-qqng11Gw3p2sqyErFpLAfakOUeRQCLqC3lx1YrRdV1ysRP-8v4YB5pqkhuPzCeHyCYF_x-z4WMhxOnWGDKOZ3a16h4mBYPbvHW2otXwc3H3EBsFKa2v83C2KxYxux5bAXQy28T9SMy-SJHTnOt3svtgKTUcYLSmIYpUzY5xFh7pc_gN_Ond9GDz5kZNv-MIXg5lO5sCV72GpkLMOALmmMXKEZSjjsrEgEFMiI.Zfo1UH1uF5i90_TwEzLvpiwnnRb3Bse94n6Cu3y3L2o&dib_tag=se&keywords=Guardair%2BPneumatic%2BSyphon%2BSolvent%2BSpray%2BGuns&qid=1774570860&s=hi&sprefix=guardair%2Bpneumatic%2Bsyphon%2Bsolvent%2Bspray%2Bguns%2Ctools%2C137&sr=1-1&th=1

I have a lot of brake clean. Will try that.

 

[HangmanNY]

yes just remove the pickup tube and it will come down. I personally have never had a pan rot on me and ive had a lot of hemis. I also live in the rust belt however I have seen some rot like crazy I just assume some are made here and some are made there whever that is lol cheap metal.

The rust was not severe. Only mild surface rust. That’s why I spent a couple of hours sanding that off. I was going to use a high heat spray primer and high heat paint. And re-coat it in place.

Then I found a small dent on the outside. And a fine hairline crack on the outside. It wasn’t leaking. But I decided to remove it.

Once I got the inside cleaned out, I saw the dent on the inside (no crack).

But since I already had the front end completely out, I’m making the decision to replace it. I might lightly scuff the new pan lightly with scotch brite. Then give it two more coats of high heat black paint. For more protection going forward.

Doing more rust removal on drivers side front end tomorrow.

 

[04fxdwgi]

If you get a Milodon pan, don't scratch it up. That gold color is the plating to protect it from rust. Paint over it is OK.

 

[TimboRam77]

What's really stupid is a 300k German car with a PLASTIC oil pan.
Ok maybe it's just me being stupid.
Don't get me started on the oil filter stupid location on the 5.7.

 

[49ers]

Get a Banks oil pan..

 

[49ers]

Get a Banks Oil pan

 

[ItsJeffie]

Since I have the entire front end removed, there was some minor surface rust on the oil pan. I started with different types of wire wheel on a cordless drill. After about two hours, I realized there was a dent on one side. And it was a very minor surface crack
(@ 1/2”). On the inside, there was only a small dimple. But just trying to get the pan out the top edges got a little scraped up. A couple of years ago some ******* drop a 5 gallon bucket of joint compound on a main road. It was at night and I didn’t see it. I was cleaning up joint compound for weeks under there. So I’m assuming that’s possible where the dent came from (with a very small surface crack). I had no leaks.

I’ll probably try a new oil pan. Are any of them better than the rest? I already have some high heat primer and high heat black paint. Would there be anything wrong with giving a new oil pan a couple more coats?

I decided to remove the pan and that’s where my fun began! Not only did they have three different wiring, harnesses connected to studded pan bolts, but it requires removing eight bolts from a brace between the back of the oil tan and the transmission. And one of the bolts is behind another bracket. I watched one guy on YouTube who cut part of it away. I did not have a die grinder. So I went out there with a small grinding stone at the end of a drill. I even used the dremel at some point. It took forever, but I got cut a bit away to remove that last bolt.

Even breaking the seal on the oil pan took a long time. I see that they don’t sell just a gasket anymore and then it’s part of that other metal pan underneath. I see there’s the oil tube. Looks like two bolts. What else is required to remove that piece underneath the oil pan?

Looks like the factory put some RTV seal near the two back corners of the pan.

Hmmm. Ever consider just pulling the engine, putting it on a stand? Turn it upside down, work sitting in a chair. It’s a lot easier to change the pan. Especially since you have the front all apart?

 

[Bad Tiki]

This was in my 2020 PW