5.7 E torque towing capacity 12,750 when properly equipped*; what does that mean?

[Jman23]

Hey Guys I have a 2022 Big Horn hemi 5.7 etorque 5’7” bed that has a towing capacity of 8,110. I realize that the 12,750 towing capability is only available when the truck is properly equipped. Is there a certain gear ratio, suspension or other equipment that the 1500 needs to be fitted with to reach the 12,750 towing capacity? My truck is eventually being brought back as a lemon so I’d like to know what to look for in my next 1500 to reach the full 12,750 capacity. If you guys could help me out in educating me that’d be highly appreciated

 

[04fxdwgi]

Looking at the included spec sheet, the only 2023 1500 capable of that 12,750 number is:
The 1500 Tradesman 4x2 SRW quad cab with 6.4' box hemi 5.7 and 8 speed and a 3.92 rear end

 

[jvbuttex]

LOL... Ram not happy with F150 claims for the past few years.

Yea it takes a stripped down truck without extras, like 2nd cab 4x4 etc. those all add weight to the truck removing it from capacity.

 

[dhay13]

And even then you can only get there with a gooseneck style trailer. You will exceed your GRAWR well before reaching your 12,000lbs. In most cases you will max out GRAWR at about 9000-10,000lbs if properly loaded.

 

[ramffml]

IMHO max tow for any halfton truck is 8000 pounds, give or take a few hundred, the numbers they throw out these days is just marketing nonsense.

They build 2500's to go beyond that number safely.

 

[caulk04]

Mostly it's going to be the gear ratio. My 4th gen is rated for something like 7500lb, but approaches 10k if it were to have the 3.92 gears as the only other change.

Get the cab and bed config that you need/want first. Add any applicable tow package and the deeper gear set.

 

[jvbuttex]

IMHO max tow for any halfton truck is 8000 pounds, give or take a few hundred, the numbers they throw out these days is just marketing nonsense.

Ya know, it reminds me of restaurants. Ever go to BK and see that nice juice burger on the wall.... Then you open up the wrapper at the table, hmmm not quite the same.

 

[crash68]

And even then you can only get there with a gooseneck style trailer. You will exceed your GRAWR well before reaching your 12,000lbs. In most cases you will max out GRAWR at about 9000-10,000lbs if properly loaded.

Not the only way, a 12750 lbs boat with 5% tongue weight(637.5lbs) will get there provided the correct receiver and ball is used. That light of tongue percentage is common with boats.

 

[2003F350]

Not the only way, a 12750 lbs boat with 5% tongue weight(637.5lbs) will get there provided the correct receiver and ball is used. That light of tongue percentage is common with boats.

This is true, though it would still hold that MOST people won't ever get to that high of a number towing.

 

[NCRaineman]

Will add that just because it can tow that much doesn't mean it *shoud*. You always want a safety margin and being at max capacity day in, day out is going to cause more wear. If you plan to run right up to the 1500's capabilities regularly consider stepping up to a 2500 which can better handle the load.

 

[dhay13]

Not the only way, a 12750 lbs boat with 5% tongue weight(637.5lbs) will get there provided the correct receiver and ball is used. That light of tongue percentage is common with boats.

True. My boat/trailer is 8900lbs and my tongue weight is 660lbs so around 7%. But in a traditional trailer setup my post applies about 98% of the time.

 

[tron67j]

Not the only way, a 12750 lbs boat with 5% tongue weight(637.5lbs) will get there provided the correct receiver and ball is used. That light of tongue percentage is common with boats.

And make great YouTube videos when all that boat weight causes the trailer tongue to lift the rear of the truck up. LMAO for hours on end watching those.

 

[dhay13]

When we first bought this boat the boat was too far back on the trailer. On the ride home I could feel and hear the coupler lifting up off the hitch going up hills and over bumps. Got home and moved the winch post forward about 14" and that helped alot. After the boat was off the trailer I moved the bunks forward and thats when I got my weights of just under 7%. Rides great now.

 

[Randy Grant]

How Your Truck Got Its Maximum Tow Rating

Today's heavy-duty pickups are rated to tow a crazy amount of weight. Here's how engineers make sure they can do it safely, without anything breaking.

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Tow GVWR has nothing to do with ware and tear. Wit the 5.7 HP and Torque,, the HP8 transmission, and 3.97 diff, and modern metallurgy, ware and tear will be far less than older trucks that towed more. Ratings are figures on ability to reach certain criteria in speed, stopping and handling. And, with the modern trailer breaks, and fifth wheel superior handling, being at or near max, is not an issue, IMHO....

 

[turkeybird56]

Will add that just because it can tow that much doesn't mean it *shoud*. You always want a safety margin and being at max capacity day in, day out is going to cause more wear. If you plan to run right up to the 1500's capabilities regularly consider stepping up to a 2500 which can better handle the load.

DITTO: Gonna go around pulling over 8K and definitely pulling over 10K, U need to go up to a 2500 or 3500 if U doing the big numbers. IMHO...

 

[Treburkulosis]

DITTO: Gonna go around pulling over 8K and definitely pulling over 10K, U need to go up to a 2500 or 3500 if U doing the big numbers. IMHO...

What does that trailer and hay weigh in Boird?

 

[turkeybird56]

What does that trailer and hay weigh in Boird?

Are U asking about my trailer? Observe full size tonneau fiberglass cover on bed.

 

[Treburkulosis]

Are U asking about my trailer?

Yes just curious since I know you actually use your truck!

 

[turkeybird56]

2006 WW Trailer, OK company, local sales rep. Posted pics post 17: dual axle, electric brakes, wooden floor with rubber mats. Trailer : 2150 lbs. Hossie: 1250 lbs.
Hay: 60-85 lbs per bale, all depends. I can load a total of 44 square bales in trailer. So use average 70 lbs: Hay a lil over 3,000 lbs. My Max load with trailer is 6,000 lbs. SO I pull between 5-6K all depends upon how good the hay is and how packed. Use 7,500 lb hitch and ball on Class IV hitch. l I do not use WDH as I am only going local. Trailer loads evenly between front to rear door, and sits mostly level fully loaded. Regular hitch, no lower drop down adjustments not needed on a 1500.

Too much? lol.

Hemi pulls it no issues. FTR, for all the nay sayers, I do use tow/haul. Trailer unloaded actually gets worse mpg than loaded and pulling totally straight. Just the physics I guess. MPG towing in town, fully loaded, speed listed on loop around town 60 mph. As U see, I am a few mph under max, anybody in a hurry, go around, roflmao. 14.6 mpg pulling in town (even on the lie-o-meter), is for an 1500 friggin outstanding, considering the TQ band on a gas motor in my book.

FTR: I at times borrow my neighbors flat trailer to get hay, it was just not available as it is a Biotch at 104 F to unload a stock trailer of hay and stack.

 

[turkeybird56]

Yes just curious since I know you actually use your truck!

YUP, trailer for move hossie, hay, lumber, if getting more than 8 bags of cement, U know truck stuff. Since I have a full tonneau cover, if anything big, I hook up my 14' stock trailer and TC of bizness. Too much to take off full tonneau cover, a (2) person job and neither my dogs or hossie will help, lol.