Go from 35's to 33's? let's see your 33's!

[jlpowell84]

All depends on tire choice. I had a set of 305/55-20 duratracs and they were just as heavy as my 35x12.50x20 cooper st maxx. Weight is almost just as important for performance as diameter is. For best performance find a light 33

As in light you say closer to 62lbs or so? Some are weighing around 76lbs like the Duratrac 33. I am making my list with specs and including weight but manufacturers are not listing them. I have one weight out of 5 diff 33's so far. Yes I am paying attention though, also I see many are like 32.6 to 33 while some are actually 33.5 like the BF Goodrich KO2. I will put a good bit of thought into this.

Of course Google and the phone could yield all the weights I'm sure and I will do so. Interested what a light 33 is considered though. Hell Friday I didn't know how to read a tire size or how to read tire specs. I mean very generally yes but I spent a good bit yesterday learning all this on the fly. I didn't realize how fun shopping for tires to match my goals for my truck can be!

Edit: Looks like my rim is 27lbs in 18x9 (V-Tec 395 WIZARD 18X9 black machined face), is that acceptable or should I be looking to sell/buy more than just the rubber?

 

[AlphaCT]

As in light you say closer to 62lbs or so? Some are weighing around 76lbs like the Duratrac 33. I am making my list with specs and including weight but manufacturers are not listing them. I have one weight out of 5 diff 33's so far. Yes I am paying attention though, also I see many are like 32.6 to 33 while some are actually 33.5 like the BF Goodrich KO2. I will put a good bit of thought into this.

Looking forward to hearing what you come up with!

 

[jlpowell84]

Looking forward to hearing what you come up with!

Yea me too, I am reading on Jeep forums how people are saying you would be amazed at how much the vehicle drives different and performs with a lightweight rim/tire combo. Without much experience it seems 27lbs for a rim is not bad at all but I could be wrong

 

[usaf2006]

As in light you say closer to 62lbs or so? Some are weighing around 76lbs like the Duratrac 33. I am making my list with specs and including weight but manufacturers are not listing them. I have one weight out of 5 diff 33's so far. Yes I am paying attention though, also I see many are like 32.6 to 33 while some are actually 33.5 like the BF Goodrich KO2. I will put a good bit of thought into this.

Edit: Looks like my rim is 27lbs in 18x9 (V-Tec 395 WIZARD 18X9 black machined face), is that acceptable or should I be looking to sell/buy more than just the rubber?

That's a decent weight for 18x9's I think. my stock 17" steel rims weigh right about there I think.

As far as 76lbs for Duratrac 33" tires, that's insane. You can get 37" tires that weigh around 82lbs.. Most 35's weigh in the mid to high 70's last time I checked.

 

[jlpowell84]

That's a decent weight for 18x9's I think. my stock 17" steel rims weigh right about there I think.

As far as 76lbs for Duratrac 33" tires, that's insane. You can get 37" tires that weigh around 82lbs.. Most 35's weigh in the mid to high 70's last time I checked.

Yes I seen lightweight Enkei wheels for tuner cars that all weight right at 19-22lbs so I think I am good there.

Amazon said the 305/65/R18 Nitto Terra Grappler G2 weighs 53.6lbs. So if that tire really weighs like 51.5lbs that may be the distinct winner. I am well aware I am trying to do what there really isn't a tire designed for although I could see a future market. I need to call manufactures to get weights today.




Pro Comp AT Sport 305/60/R18 32.20” Tire Height 12.50” Tire Width 16.3 Tread Depth

Nitto Terra Grappler G2 305/60/R18 33.58” Tire Height 12.24” Tire Width 17.0 Tread Depth 53.6lbs (Amazon)

Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ P3 305/60/R18 32.60” Tire Height 12.10” Tire Width 18.5 Tread Depth

Falken Wildpeak A/T3W 305/65/R18 33.60” Tire Height 12.00” Tire Width 19.0 Tread Depth 66.6lbs (Falken)

Cooper Discover S/T MAXX 305/60/R18 32.64” Tire Height 12.10” Tire Width 18.5 Tread Depth Unknown weight, said to be very heavy.

BF Goodrich AT KO2 305/65/R18 33.50” Tire Height 12.20” Tire Width 15.0 Tread Depth 62.8lbs (BFG) 619Revs/Mile

Toyo Open Country R/T 33x12.5x18 32.80” Tire Height 12.50” Tire Width 15.0 Tread Depth 75.0lbs (Tiresize.com) 634Revs/Mile


So I really like the Toyo R/T look the best probably but it's basically a mud tire so I think it's out the window with it's weight. Prob the top three are BFG A/T KO2, Nitto Terra Grappler G2 and the Pro Comp A/T Sport. Cooper Zeon LTZ is intriguing but can't get my size I think. Goal is dry pavement hookup for performance while maintaining ability to hit trails and snow effectively. I have spent a good bit on performance mods and I really want to feel that torque but maintain the 4x4 leveled look of my truck with 12.5" wide tires.

 

[jlpowell84]

Looks like the Terra Grappler G2 in 305/60/R18 is the winner. 33.58" tall, 12.24" wide and only 52lbs for $1100 installed and lifetime warranty from Tire shop and Nittos warranty also. Definitely taking a turn with my truck in deciding not to lift it and to go performance so I will shave the ICI Magnum RT steps also. Torque converter coming in a week, should all come together nicely

I just seen the 305/60/R18 is 32.4" tall vs 33.58"tall in the 305/65/R18. Both are 12.24" wide and 54lbs vs. 52.5lbs. The smaller one only has 13.9/32 tread depth vs 17.0 on the bigger one. Not quite sure how tread depth works if they all have 50k mile warranty...

It seems my current 35s are actually 34.5" tall by 12.5" wide. So going to the 33.58 nets me only 0.92" gained. Is that enough to make a difference? Should I go of the 32.4" instead? 3.1mm tread depth less?

 

[jlpowell84]

I ended up ordering the 305/60/R18s instead of 305/65/R18. I go from 34.5" tires to 32.4" and gain 2.1". If I did the 305/65/R18 then I would go from 34.5" to 33.58" and gain 0.92". I am hoping the smaller ones do not look to small especially moving from a super aggressive looking 35 mud terrain. But 2.1" less diameter should yield some good performance results along with the Torque Converter. Terra Grappler G2s...52lbs each

 

[AlphaCT]

I ended up ordering the 305/60/R18s instead of 305/65/R18. I go from 34.5" tires to 32.4" and gain 2.1". If I did the 305/65/R18 then I would go from 34.5" to 33.58" and gain 0.92". I am hoping the smaller ones do not look to small especially moving from a super aggressive looking 35 mud terrain. But 2.1" less diameter should yield some good performance results along with the Torque Converter. Terra Grappler G2s...52lbs each

Great info! How long before you get your new shoes on? Please post lots of pics - and give us your review after driving with them on.

 

[Ronan]

I know people might be nay Sayers but I've heard some decent reviews about atturo trail blade xt's. I just ordered them last night so I'll keep you posted. It has some aggressive shoulder lugs with a good looking tread in between, looks like my old terra grapplers on steroids. Price is right too.


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[Ronan]

Also as far as weight goes, 27 lbs for a rim is pretty light, you are going to pay big money for a lighter 4x4 wheel. I have the 22" r/t wheels and they weigh in a 27lbs They are a forged alloy wheel. The tires I stated above only weigh in at 51lbs. So I'm looking at 78lbs total now as opposed to the 105lbs I just took off with the 20x9 and 325/60/20.


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[jlpowell84]

Great info! How long before you get your new shoes on? Please post lots of pics - and give us your review after driving with them on.

Ordered today should have them on by weekend I guess.

I know people might be nay Sayers but I've heard some decent reviews about atturo trail blade xt's. I just ordered them last night so I'll keep you posted. It has some aggressive shoulder lugs with a good looking tread in between, looks like my old terra grapplers on steroids. Price is right too.


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I can't remember your tire journey and current reason for switching? Did you approve of the terra grapplers? What size did you have?

I REALLY like those tires and I REALLY wanted to go with the new KO2 BFG...But I had to keep reminding myself why I was changing. Performance, torque...it's way too expensive for me to change gearing (2012 4x4) so with 3.55 gears the next best thing is smaller tires and torque converter. The TQ is ordered in 2800 rpm and now I chose to go with the 305/60 at 32.40" in height. I wish the sidewall was more aggressive but it's okay enough I suppose. And the main reason is weight. The tire you got is 63lbs which ballpark Ko2 at 64 and Pro Comp A/T Sport at 64lbs. The 305/60 terra grappler is only 52lbs.

Overall I am going for the leveled 4wd truck with 33s look. Wide/aggressive stance with tires sticking out a tad and can hit the trail or snow. But really she can get up and go!

 

[Ronan]

Gotcha, probably because it's an 18, the 305/45/22 I ordered are 51 pounds. I'm on the same boat. Performance!!!! Going from a 35.3 to a 32.8 and going from 105lbs per wheel to 78!!!! Right now I'm running the stock tires on the rt rims weighing in at 74lbs and measuring about 31 3/4. With the stall and smaller lighter wheels, performance has increased tenfold! Just waiting on the tires to get my stance back. Your gonna love the tq !! Smile every time you goose it!


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[jlpowell84]

Well thats exactly what I am after! I think we operate on the same wave length lol! I want the aggressive stance, would prefer a more aggressive looking tire like yours and tires poking out a tad. Keeping the "leveled 4wd" look but having a beast at the wheels ready to crush those dudes that think stock is fast. Really in my heart I like torque (I bought all my mods unplanned/spur of the moment so that should tell ya) and so I sacrificed the 6 inch lifted 35s look.

I am stoked to get the TQ. Ordered Friday so Edge is assembling it and I guess to see it this Friday or the following Monday. Scheduling with my mechanic will be the tough part as he is always super busy so it could take a couple weeks.

My main worry is that the tires will not look aggressive enough. Maybe I should wait and get bigger rims then I can afford the weight of a more aggressive tire with enough traction still. Other worry is they will look too small. And the last worry is a question also...I am hoping they will stick out far enough to keep that aggressive stance which will enhance the look overall making the tires acceptable. Have you ever used wheel spacers., are the safe, effective? Wondering if a half inch out of the gate would be a good idea.

 

[Rampitt]

dumb question but going from 35'' to 33'' will that make the truck 2 inches lower due to 2 inch difference in tires?

 

[LifeSTRONG]

1" lower

 

[jlpowell84]

Yea 1" lower which is why I am selling my Magnum RT steps.

 

[Rampitt]

I'm good I don't want to sacrifice 1 inch lol.

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[jlpowell84]

I'm good I don't want to sacrifice 1 inch lol.

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Well I could have went 305/65 instead of 305/60 and went from 34.5" to 33.58" and only 0.92" total meaning just 0.46" of truck being lower. I really wanted to do that for appearance but felt the 0.92 was not enough to gain performance so I went to the 305/60 at 32.4" tall and gained 2.10" so 1.05" drop in truck height.

Appearance wise I really am/was apprehensive but I am HOPING it will still looks good. If not I may get 20" rims...Anyone know the rims Cruiser has?

 

[jlpowell84]

This one looks interesting, I dont see it on Mickey Thompson site, maybe discontinued? It's not the ATZ so maybe Amazon has it titled wrong and it's older model...

Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ Radial SLT Tire Reviews

 

[NWRQC]

All depends on tire choice. I had a set of 305/55-20 duratracs and they were just as heavy as my 35x12.50x20 cooper st maxx. Weight is almost just as important for performance as diameter is. For best performance find a light 33

Both current the tires and the 35's were Nitto Terra Grappler G2's. I just went back down in diameter.
But yes, the lighter the rotating assembly the better.