Dean2
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Agreed. The Michellin Ice Radials, which are dedicated winter tires, not All Seasons, definitely earned their price of admission today. I feel way better having these on my wife's Grand Cherokee than trying to save a couple of bucks and use all seasons.Tires are one of the last places to cheap out IMHO.
Same reason I bought Blizzaks for the wife's Durango, firmly planted in snow like the pavement is dry.Agreed. The Michellin Ice Radials which are dedicated winter tires, not All Seasons, definitely earned their price of admission today. I feel way better having these on my wife's Grand Cherokee than trying to save a couple of bucks and use all seasons. You can immediately see the difference when you go to stop. You do have to watch that the guy behind you isn't too close. They are also a whole bunch stickier on off camber corners and the colder it gets the more you can see the difference.
Actually, by Edmonton standards that is no snow at all. We usually have a couple of feet or more by now. This is just a skiff. Saved us from a Brown Christmas though. Merry Christmas to all.What’s all that white stuff on the ground? LoL
I'm glad you're happy, and agree that the right tire for the circumstances makes a world of difference, but those pics don't tell me anything. Coulda been a Ferrari with slicks, sliding down the road...The pictures pretty much tell the story.
The pictures show a really slick road and I am still on it. You will have to take my word for what I was driving and what tires I was using. The Ferrari has been on the lift for over a month. It would have never made it out of the driveway with this ice. It does not go out in this weather ever. That is what the Carrera 4's job is.I'm glad you're happy, and agree that the right tire for the circumstances makes a world of difference, but those pics don't tell me anything. Coulda been a Ferrari with slicks, sliding down the road...
Along with well maintained ride, and tires for the task, helps if U drive to conditions also. TOO many PPL have the mindset: I's got 4 WD, I can go anywhere, anytime, any speed, and does not matter.The pictures show a really slick road and I am still on it. You will have to take my word for what I was driving and what tires I was using. The Ferrari has been on the lift for over a month. It would have never made it out of the driveway with this ice. It does not go out in this weather ever. That is what the Carrera 4's job is.
Saw more than a few of those in the ditches today. Lots of cars, especially EVs for some reason and given they are relatively rare in these parts the number in the ditch kind of stood out. That said, there were also lots of 4x4 SUV types too, but they also comprise about 50 percent of the local fleet. I would be interested to know what it is about EVs that makes them so prone to falling off the road on ice.Along with well maintained ride, and tires for the task, helps if U drive to conditions also. TOO many PPL have the mindset: I's got 4 WD, I can go anywhere, anytime, any speed, and does not matter.
The torque issue makes sense. Low to ground wouldn't have been an issue today, we had less than a 1/4 inch of snow, just REALLY slick ice.Torque to the wheel is there biggest enemy and being low to the ground, add you need winter tires for that EV at $500 a tire.
On an EV, with the electric motors, is this kinda like a 4 AWD setup? (Asking as I do not know). Or is there just torque to a drive wheel? One would think with an AWD setup, if U had good shoes, U should be OK, as much as those EV's weigh. But instant full torque on a wheel is definitely not what works. Maybe they need to have a geared setup like 4 LO to assist in those situations. Just thinking out loud, and why I am always happy I got my lowly Bighorn in the driveway. Because, what we mostly get here is ice, not snow. (Helps I have Falkens AT3W's on also, but I am also reticent and I understand capabilities and conditions).The torque issue makes sense. Low to ground wouldn't have been an issue today, we had less than a 1/4 inch of snow, just REALLY slick ice.
Boy I agree. My neighbor's had lousy luck with his Cooper AT3's and returned to Toyo's.Tires are one of the last places to cheap out IMHO.
Studs only make a small positive difference on ice or had packed snow, and have a negative impact in all other conditions - dry snow, wet snow, slush, wet, dry.If you have a lot of snow and especially ice to deal with, studded snow tires on all four corners make a big difference.