IS IT TIME 5.7 TO GET DROPPED ???

[GTyankee]

I don't think that the Flathead Ford would not last long in todays 3/4 ton truck on todays highways

But they were fun to drive in a 41 Ford

 

[pacofortacos]

Let's face it, gas motors are done. It'll be electric from here on out as mandated by Cali and the feds. Maybe a hybrid but that's questionable even.

 

[Fatbob Frank]

I've had 3 5.7L Hemis and all were great, but if I could have checked a box and gotten an optional 6.4L
( or even an N.A. 6.2L they use for the TRX) I would have been all over that.
The 5.7L is getting outdated.
I wouldn't be opposed to them bringing back a modern version of the venerable 318ci 5.2L Magnum in an aluminum block, VVT, high compression motor to compete with Ford's 5.0 Coyote...

 

[slickracer]

If you don't like it, buy a Ford.

 

[Docwagon1776]

Man, people cry about hemi tick and MDS but as soon as anyone questions the motor's relevance it's all hands on deck defense!

FCA did work on a 6 cylinder forced induction replacement with the project name of "Tornado". Rumor mill was it would be roughly 3 liters and over 500hp. But for whatever reason it was cancelled. I suspect to focus on hybrid powertrains/EVs but that's just a guess.

I like the hemi and it's pretty laughable to me to call it underpowered or inefficient. Roughly 400/400 and 20mpg on midgrade gas with natural aspiration? What a golden age we live in if that's underpowered and inefficient.

The 6.2L is a solid motor as well, but requires premium gas to make it's numbers and it comes wrapped in the ugliest truck currently produced. An LSA version (supercharged) would be absolutely nuts if you could get the truck to put it down. A modern "454SS" sort of truck but with real brake and suspension upgrades would probably sell pretty handily. Wandering off topic, but all the "super trucks" are desert racer types, why no street/track versions?

 

[Kart20]

Ain't no substitute for a normally aspirated V8. The torque, the tone, the driveability, the longevity, the simplicity. There's nothing else I'd rather drive. Engineering can sure produce something that has better power and efficiency numbers. But it won't have the same feel or the same rumble.

hot rodded Turbo 6 or V8? Let's just see which one is still running 25 years later.

 

[jllrue]

I have been Chryslers customer for better than 20 years, long time mopar owner, long time with to many cars trucks and suv to list, but im also open minded and specially if I have to drop 60k on a new truck , I like to get the latest and greatest best thing for my dollar , like I said b4 ( IMO yours might be deferent , I think the hemi in our trucks is getting old and underpowered and inefficient, ) if you still happy with it good for you brother , keep on trucking.

You mentioned the Ford 5.0, before, I had a 2018 Ford F150 and the 5.0 has an oil consumption problem, Fords fix was to change the dipstick and reprogram the PCM, obviously that fix didn't work. They have a class action lawsuit now pending on that engine. I traded that crap in for my 2020 Ram, and I'm very happy with it so far. I know in my case, the 5.0 is crap!

 

[runamuck]

I have had a cpl. 5.7 hemis and they have been great. In my view, trucks used as trucks should be kept simple and as low tech as possible. put the small twin turbo high tech glitzy motors in automobiles. the only thing I would do with regard to the hemi motor if I was in charge of Ram would be to offer the 6.4 in the 1500's like gm does theirs. the 6.2L they offer is not really designed to be an all day everyday truck motor, but the guys I know that have one like the power it has...they all gripe about it sucking gas tho.

 

[2012RAM1500RT]

Ain't no substitute for a normally aspirated V8. The torque, the tone, the driveability, the longevity, the simplicity. There's nothing else I'd rather drive. Engineering can sure produce something that has better power and efficiency numbers. But it won't have the same feel or the same rumble.

hot rodded Turbo 6 or V8? Let's just see which one is still running 25 years later.

You're right, NOTHING sounds better than a good ole American V-8 of any brand or a V-TWIN Harley! I don't care how much longer anything else last!

 

[ChaosMike]

With only a few exceptions the manufacturers aren't going to spend money for new engines that they have to drop upon any mandates that they can't sell IC engines in the rapidly approaching future. If they're going to spend development money it's on full electrics or other things they'll be allowed to sell not something that only has a few year lifespan after being released.

 

[Farmer Fran]

The 5.7 is a great engine. Especially paired to the ZF.

 

[Rlaf75]

Sadly because of the "climate change" bull$h!t every combustion engine will eventually be phased out.

 

[Farmer Fran]

Until then... me and Bee will rumble away,

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[Docwagon1776]

More to the point - 20 years is long in the tooth. You don't wait till you've been rendered obsolete to start new products.

The Chevy small block would disagree. Induction systems changed, and there were generations, but the bones were the same for decades. The 350 alone ran for nearly 40 years, and continues to as a crate motor.

 

[Tim7139]

I think its time, CHRYSLER ARE YOU LISTENING ?

They're listening, but they're unlikely to act.

The number of people that want a v8 is a low number. Remove the people that just want the HEMI. Then remove the I won't buy a new design until it's met *** goal (age, sales numbers, etc.) and they probably don't have enough numbers to justify the cost of development even if they hit it out of the park problem free.

 

[Tim7139]

Sadly because of the "climate change" bull$h!t every combustion engine will eventually be phased out.

Even without climate change there is only so much oil, and it is handy stuff for uses.

 

[Octane]

If the power of the 5.7 was improved then they would have to up the 6.1 and 6.4.They couldnt have the 5.7 to close in power.GM used to put last years corvette engines in new model camaros.Then up the corvettes newer model with more power.Didnt want a camaro to outrun the vette.But they did want to upgrade them both.Ram wants to leave us with the same old 5.7 forever.But for a truck Im happy with the 5.7

 

[HEMIMANN]

The Chevy small block would disagree. Induction systems changed, and there were generations, but the bones were the same for decades. The 350 alone ran for nearly 40 years, and continues to as a crate motor.

Yes, I just think Hemi Gen III has too serious a flaw to continue as-is, and a new V8 ain't happenin'.

I know we cooked the planet, but I don't see a way out, either. Electricity portability is still an issue - where you gonna refill your e-juice in Flin Flon Saskatchewan? I know, I know - "don't live there". But that doesn't work during a civilization upheaval period. Maybe most city vehicles going EV is enough to fix the environment? I dunno.

 

[Treburkulosis]

I love my Hemi. I dont care for the styling of the F150. Long time Ford guy here. Not a big GM guy. Growing up it was always Ford vs Chevy and I liked being the odd ball of my friends while walking them down the track. I like Dodges approach to lets just throw a Hellephant motor at it. Most car companies are going smaller and adding a turbo. Not dodge. The hemi works and works well. Why change it?

 

[Ewoodard]

I love my Hemi also. My company truck is a 2018 F150 with the 5.0 and it is the biggest piece of sh*T I have ever had. Ford put an engine in it at 10,000 miles because it was using 1 qt of oil for every 1000 miles. Truck is now at 84,000 with 74,000 on the motor and it is consuming oil again. I will never own a Ford product. The Chevy’s at work are no better, transmission all crap out at 100,000 miles.