2016 2500 Cummins PO868

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My 2016 has given a PO868 several times over the past year. This has always occurred during full throttle passing while pulling my camper. Truck has engine tune and trans tune. I've heard that this is a known issue after tunes. Anyone experiencing this issue?
 

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That's a low line pressure code. Shouldn't have a single thing to do with the tune as it's on the engine. IF the trans was also tuned, it should have increased the line pressure and not decreased.

Do you still have the tuner? If so, try putting the trans tune back to stock. If the tune is a hotter than stock engine tune, you may be roasting the trans. 68RFEs (assuming that's what you have) don't like any more HP/TQ than factory. They're a ticking timebomb if you have any hotter engine tune on it.
 
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That's a low line pressure code. Shouldn't have a single thing to do with the tune as it's on the engine. IF the trans was also tuned, it should have increased the line pressure and not decreased.

Do you still have the tuner? If so, try putting the trans tune back to stock. If the tune is a hotter than stock engine tune, you may be roasting the trans. 68RFEs (assuming that's what you have) don't like any more HP/TQ than factory. They're a ticking timebomb if you have any hotter engine tune on it.
Yes, I still have the tuner. I can dial up 4 levels in HP; lowest above stock is 45 and that is where it stays. I'm not foolish enough to dial up to 150hp and expect the trans to last. The trans tune is supposed to have increased the line pressure but I haven't confirmed it with a scanner.
 

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Truck has engine tune and trans tune.
They're a ticking timebomb if you have any hotter engine tune on it.
lowest above stock is 45 and that is where it stays

Tunes these days are playing with fire. Trucks aren't what they used to be. Manufacturers bleed every bit of power, MPGs and low emissions they can. Spending a couple hundred bucks on Amazon isn't going to outsmart a team of engineers from a major auto manufacturer.... what it is going to do is give you problems like you're having. How about just removing the tune? How to do that is what I'd be looking in to.
 
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Tunes these days are playing with fire. Trucks aren't what they used to be. Manufacturers bleed every bit of power, MPGs and low emissions they can. Spending a couple hundred bucks on Amazon isn't going to outsmart a team of engineers from a major auto manufacturer.... what it is going to do is give you problems like you're having. How about just removing the tune? How to do that is what I'd be looking in to.



I can assure you that this upgrade was not some "couple hundred bucks amazon special". By removing the tune it seems you're suggesting going back to full factory which includes re-installing every piece of smog equipment and factory heater grid that's known to destroy engines? Nah, hard pass for me.
 

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I can assure you that this upgrade was not some "couple hundred bucks amazon special". By removing the tune it seems you're suggesting going back to full factory which includes re-installing every piece of smog equipment and factory heater grid that's known to destroy engines? Nah, hard pass for me.
if the factory tune is ok with you many tuners do have a setting for stock power levels just deletes. that being said the stock transmission doesn't do well with line pressure increases it isn't capable of it what you might do if possible is have a shop swap out the factory line pressure regulator? unsure of the terminology, thus allowing higher pressure? or getting a HD tuned transmission, or having your transmission rebuilt with HD in mind. Or just put transmission tune back to stock in your tuner.
 

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That's a low line pressure code. Shouldn't have a single thing to do with the tune as it's on the engine. IF the trans was also tuned, it should have increased the line pressure and not decreased.

Do you still have the tuner? If so, try putting the trans tune back to stock. If the tune is a hotter than stock engine tune, you may be roasting the trans. 68RFEs (assuming that's what you have) don't like any more HP/TQ than factory. They're a ticking timebomb if you have any hotter engine tune on it.
I did a search on that specific code, that code is not "low line pressure code" exactly, that code says the line pressure called for is x, but the achieved line pressure is 15 psi or more under x. That makes me think it is exactly what I already mentioned the factory transmission is unable to increase the line pressure enough to match what the tune called for.
 

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It is a low line code.... which is exactly what you just said. :)

My trans is also tuned but essentially my tune just ups the line pressure as if the trans were always in tow/haul mode, increases shift firmness for less clutch slippage (takes out some of the fluid coupling), moves the shift points @ WOT to 3k rpms, and has a 6th gear unlock and downshift to minimize the torque that hits it.

@bp73 set the HP level on the tune back to stock HP level. You don't have to physically put the truck back to stock. Even a 45HP tune could be over 100 lb.ft more torque. These transmissions do not like ANY HP/TQ level higher than stock levels. That could still be part of your issue. I run mine on the stock HP tune, and always have. Knock on wood, but out of 3 "lightweight" trucks with 68RFEs, none of them have ever given me an issue and have had multiple tunes on them.
 

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It is a low line code.... which is exactly what you just said. :)

My trans is also tuned but essentially my tune just ups the line pressure as if the trans were always in tow/haul mode, increases shift firmness for less clutch slippage (takes out some of the fluid coupling), moves the shift points @ WOT to 3k rpms, and has a 6th gear unlock and downshift to minimize the torque that hits it.

@bp73 set the HP level on the tune back to stock HP level. You don't have to physically put the truck back to stock. Even a 45HP tune could be over 100 lb.ft more torque. These transmissions do not like ANY HP/TQ level higher than stock levels. That could still be part of your issue. I run mine on the stock HP tune, and always have. Knock on wood, but out of 3 "lightweight" trucks with 68RFEs, none of them have ever given me an issue and have had multiple tunes on them.
stock transmission can only produce 185 psi, after market calls for 225. so that makes a big difference thus the code
 

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The stock line pressure is around 160-170. My tune adjusts it to allow up to 190 (though I've never romped on it to try to go that high). Typically I'm seeing around 180 or so towing heavy.

Even if tuned, the trans will try to make the pressure that the tune calls for. It will just kill the valve body. Hence, my recommendation to turn down the tune to stock levels. Keeping a trans tune is fine. It doesn't mean you have to try and get all of the psi out of it. Turn down the HP/TQ and drive it sensibly.
 

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The stock line pressure is around 160-170. My tune adjusts it to allow up to 190 (though I've never romped on it to try to go that high). Typically I'm seeing around 180 or so towing heavy.

Even if tuned, the trans will try to make the pressure that the tune calls for. It will just kill the valve body. Hence, my recommendation to turn down the tune to stock levels. Keeping a trans tune is fine. It doesn't mean you have to try and get all of the psi out of it. Turn down the HP/TQ and drive it sensibly.
look I am not trying to get into a ******* match with you, I did not know what that code was specifically so I looked it up, I also know that the stock transmission can never go above 185, I have a raceme ultra tune that has transmission tune as well I do have a HD built transmission that can and does allow 225 psi, my raceme ultra allows me to monitor transmission pressure so I have it as a gauge and I watch it, normal driving it rarely exceeds 185, but it can and does after driving I look at that guage and it tells me the peak pressure for that drive and often it will be over 200.
 

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I actually wasn't really disagreeing with you. Just stating the facts and what I know for comparison. BTW... I'm also running a RaceMe UltraCT with the trans tune on a stock 68RFE. :)

Chill out dude.
 

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I actually wasn't really disagreeing with you. Just stating the facts and what I know for comparison. BTW... I'm also running a RaceMe UltraCT with the trans tune on a stock 68RFE. :)

Chill out dude.
ah, gottcha, we were both saying similar things at cross talk of each other. which is why I wanted to make sure you understood I wasn't trying to bring this to a issue lol
 
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